Charlatan "girl against flouride" finally exposed

Annasopra · 23-12-2013 11:31am

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

anyone who believes anyone these days is a gullible fool

So we should all believe you?

Ash.J.Williams · 23-12-2013 11:33am

mango salsa wrote: »

So we should all believe you?

absolutely not, without looking into it first.

zenno · 23-12-2013 11:43am

suicide_circus wrote: »

Call me crazy but I'd rather juat have a clean water supply with as few additives as possible. It is not for the state to decide if I need fluoride supplements.

Edit: if the state were to foot the bill for all my dental needs then it should certainty have a say. But it doesn't, so it shouldn't.

Take your medicine and shut the fu*k up. Do what you're told, Pronto, as the water-board heads would say, and the Dentists... yes, Dentists have qualifications in toxicology in a far-away fantasy world made from donations from the pharmaceutical industries. Come fly with me, Come fly, come fly away.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 23-12-2013 2:06pm

hansfrei wrote: »

Some ministers uncle is gettong money off the flouride company. Or some TD is using the flouride as an expense in his constituency to finance his daughters house. Or something.
Sure isn't for your good health anyway.

Boyagainstfloride, is that you?

ScumLord · 23-12-2013 3:17pm

Wurly wrote: »

How do you know that vaccinations are not toxic to the human body? How do you know that flouride isn't really bad news for us either?

All that approval malarkey they have to go through before they make it to the market. There may be harmful effects but if the vaccines where toxic we'd know all about it because there would be mass reactions not one here and there.

hansfrei wrote: »

Flouride is bad for you. Theres loads of science to back that statement up somewhere, probably. Anyway I don't want it in my water.

Fluoride is good for you, there's loads of evidence to back it up.

Amazingfun wrote: »

I wonder why so many countries are banning or taking the fluoride out of their water if it's so great for us, as the blogger claims?

Democracy. The angry mob get's more attention than the rational scientist.

WilyCoyote · 23-12-2013 4:05pm

WilyCoyote wrote: »

WS Gilbert gets it in one. If you like to get to get to the nitty head to 1 min 40 secs ......... otherwise enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFVSQQRGVmA

And the words:

If you're anxious for to shine in the high aesthetic line
as a man of culture rare,
You must get up all the germs of the transcendental terms,
and plant them ev'rywhere.
You must lie upon the daisies and discourse in novel phrases
of your complicated state of mind,
The meaning doesn't matter if it's only idle chatter
of a transcendental kind.

And ev'ry one will say,
As you walk your mystic way,
"If this young man expresses himself in terms too deep for me,
Why, what a very singularly deep young man
this deep young man must be!"

Be eloquent in praise of the very dull old days
which have long since passed away,
And convince 'em, if you can, that the reign of good Queen Anne
was Culture's palmiest day.
Of course you will pooh-pooh whatever's fresh and new,
and declare it's crude and mean,
For Art stopped short in the cultivated court of the Empress Josephine.

And ev'ryone will say,
As you walk your mystic way,
"If that's not good enough for him which is good enough for me,
Why, what a very cultivated kind of youth this kind of youth must be!"

Then a sentimental passion of a vegetable fashion
must excite your languid spleen,
An attachment a la Plato for a bashful young potato,
or a not- too-French French bean!
Though the Philistines may jostle, you will rank as an apostle
in the high aesthetic band,
If you walk down Piccadilly with a poppy or a lily
in your medieval hand.

And ev'ryone will say,
As you walk your flow'ry way,
"If he's content with a vegetable love which would certainly not suit me,
Why, what a most particularly pure young man
this pure young man must be!"

This was written by Gilbert about the fad of falling in love with vegetables ..... which, yes, bright young things did in those days ........ purely to impress

weisses · 23-12-2013 4:30pm

Who needs girl against fluoride when you have organizations below opposing it

The Consumers’ Association of Ireland (CAI) took a neutral stance on the question of the
benefits and risks of water fluoridation. The CAI council had voted that consumers should
have choice in this issue and that as mandatory water fluoridation does not offer choice, the
CAI opposes the continuation of water fluoridation. It is the recommendation of the
Consumers’ Association of Ireland that the Government should now cease adding
fluoridating chemicals to the piped drinking water.

The Irish Doctors’ Environmental Association (IDEA) likewise adopted a neutral stance on
the benefits of water fluoridation, and expressed its opposition to the continuation of the
fluoridation of drinking water supplies. The association has concerns regarding the addition
of fluoride to the water supply, on the grounds of unknown dosage, particularly with regard
to infants. It also has concerns regarding contaminants and the possible interaction of
fluoride with other drugs. The association believes that the ingestion of fluoride should be a
matter of choice, and that dental decay is best prevented by dietary measures and
improved dental hygiene.

Muise... · 23-12-2013 4:43pm

weisses wrote: »

Who needs girl against fluoride when you have organizations below opposing it

I need the Girl Against Fluoride for entertainment. Your quotes without a reference are no fun.

weisses · 23-12-2013 4:46pm

Muise... wrote: »

I need the Girl Against Fluoride for entertainment. Your quotes without a reference are no fun.

Sorry was checking that calender

http://www.dohc.ie/publications/pdf/fluoridation_forum.pdf?direct=1

expectationlost · 23-12-2013 5:04pm

hansfrei wrote: »

Lots of people hold strange opinions. You casting the first stone MS?

i don't ming has dropped his concern with fluoride just that girl...

expectationlost · 23-12-2013 5:05pm

its interesting that ming has dropped his association with her, have anybody got a reply from any other politicians who quoted her

bogwalrus · 23-12-2013 5:27pm

I really don't want to be drinking fluoridated water and currently I have no choice. This is my problem. Why don't the government just stop fluoridating and people that want it in their water can buy it in a plastic container. I believe all fluoride containers need to have the toxic skull and crossbones symbol as it is highly toxic. Who would want to put that in their cuppa tea?

srsly78 · 23-12-2013 5:30pm

You don't hear anyone complaining about all the dihydrogen monoxide, should we put a label on that too?

Corkfeen · 23-12-2013 5:54pm

bogwalrus wrote: »

I really don't want to be drinking fluoridated water and currently I have no choice. This is my problem. Why don't the government just stop fluoridating and people that want it in their water can buy it in a plastic container. I believe all fluoride containers need to have the toxic skull and crossbones symbol as it is highly toxic. Who would want to put that in their cuppa tea?

Plenty of things are highly toxic in high concentrations but are perfectly fine at low levels. Water is toxic if ingested in large enough quantities.

premierstone · 23-12-2013 5:58pm

realies wrote: »

I am lost here .

Its the Flouride you see, it foooks with your ability to think straight and to comprehend even the most basic info :eek:

lostdisk · 23-12-2013 6:01pm

srsly78 wrote: »

You don't hear anyone complaining about all the dihydrogen monoxide, should we put a label on that too?

Yes.

stuar · 23-12-2013 6:04pm

OP your thread is an attack on a girl, I don't know her history, education or mental state to be honest, and really I don't care, but theres a couple of things your missing in your veiled personal attack.

Because she has other idea's about other things doesn't automatically make her wrong on fluoride.
Maybe it would be a better idea to maybe educate yourself a little about what fluoride is before adding links to a quack blog backing up your "claims".

The argument for it's staying in our water supply are that it helps our teeth, this argument is ridiculous, it causes more damage to teeth with fluorosis.

Fluoride accumilates in the body, some people have much less physical tolerance to this industrial waste product to others, so mass medication harms some more than others. It's been shown to affect the thyroid and pineal glands, look into the functions of both, use google maybe?

I have more to say about this subject but I find this thread misinformation at best and your links just codswollop to be frank.

Heres some links to counter your blog links, and don't worry no links from TGAF or spiritual guides.

Tooth Decay Trends in Fluoridated vs. Unfluoridated Countries
http://fluoridealert.org/studies/caries01/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhZXChLyk90

End Fluoridation, Say 500 Physicians, Dentists, Scientists And Environmentalists

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/79326.php
Prominent Dentists Say Drinking NYC's Fluoridated Water is Risky

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/prominent-dentists-say-drinking-nycs-fluoridated-water-is-risky-131137168.html

Why I Changed My Mind About Water Fluoridation

John Colquhoun, D.D.

S

., Ph.D
http://www.slweb.org/colquhoun.html

Dentists' group takes up battle against fluoridation

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/dentists-group-takes-up-battle-against-fluoridation-26072390.html
Effects on the Endocrine System
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=11571&page=224

ADA study confirms dangers of fluoridated water, especially for babies
http://www.naturalnews.com/030123_fluoride_babies.html#ixzz2oJnLVP00

I have a few things to do but will get back to this later.

Fluoride is a toxic industrial waste product from aluminium production.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjG2xjHn-50

Republic of Ireland

71% water fluoridation.

United Kingdom and Northern Ireland

Northern Ireland: No fluoridation.

Scotland: No fluoridation.

Wales: No fluoridation.

England: 10% water fluoridation.

Various Other European Countries

Austria: No fluoridation – "toxic fluorides have never been added to the public water supplies in Austria." (17th February 2000).

Belgium: No fluoridation.

Czech Republic: No fluoridation – "since 1993 drinking water has not been treated with fluoride in public water supplies throughout the Czech Republic. Reasons:

Uneconomical
Unecological
Unethical
Toxicologically and physiologically debatable"

Denmark: No fluoridation – "toxic fluorides have never been added to the public water supplies." (22nd December 1999)

Finland: No fluoridation. One city, Kuopio, stopped in 1992.

France: No fluoridation – "fluoride chemicals are not included in the list of chemicals for drinking water treatment. This is due to ethical as well as medical considerations." (25th August 2000)

Germany: No fluoridation – "Generally in Germany fluoridation of drinking water is forbidden." (16th September 1999)

Luxembourg: No fluoridation – "Fluoride has never been added to the public water supplies in Luxembourg."

Holland: No fluoridation. It was rejected in 1976.

Norway: No fluoridation. It was rejected in 1975.

Spain: 3% water fluoridation.

Sweden: No fluoridation – "Nobel Medical Institute recommended against fluoridation. It is banned since 1971."

Switzerland: No fluoridation

lostdisk · 23-12-2013 6:21pm

stuar wrote: »

OP your thread is an attack on a girl, I don't know her history, education or mental state to be honest, and really I don't care, but theres a couple of things your missing in your veiled personal attack.

Because she has other idea's about other things doesn't automatically make her wrong on fluoride.
Maybe it would be a better idea to maybe educate yourself a little about what fluoride is before adding links to a quack blog backing up your "claims".

The argument for it's staying in our water supply are that it helps our teeth, this argument is ridiculous, it causes more damage to teeth with fluorosis.

Fluoride accumilates in the body, some people have much less physical tolerance to this industrial waste product to others, so mass medication harms some more than others. It's been shown to affect the thyroid and pineal glands, look into the functions of both, use google maybe?

I have more to say about this subject but I find this thread misinformation at best and your links just codswollop to be frank.

Heres some links to counter your blog links, and don't worry no links from TGAF or spiritual guides.

Tooth Decay Trends in Fluoridated vs. Unfluoridated Countries
http://fluoridealert.org/studies/caries01/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhZXChLyk90

End Fluoridation, Say 500 Physicians, Dentists, Scientists And Environmentalists

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/79326.php
Prominent Dentists Say Drinking NYC's Fluoridated Water is Risky

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/prominent-dentists-say-drinking-nycs-fluoridated-water-is-risky-131137168.html

Why I Changed My Mind About Water Fluoridation

John Colquhoun, D.D.
S
., Ph.D
http://www.slweb.org/colquhoun.html

Dentists' group takes up battle against fluoridation

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/dentists-group-takes-up-battle-against-fluoridation-26072390.html
Effects on the Endocrine System
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=11571&page=224
ADA study confirms dangers of fluoridated water, especially for babies
http://www.naturalnews.com/030123_fluoride_babies.html#ixzz2oJnLVP00

I have a few things to do but will get back to this later.

Fluoride is a toxic industrial waste product from aluminium production.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjG2xjHn-50

Republic of Ireland

71% water fluoridation.

United Kingdom and Northern Ireland

Northern Ireland: No fluoridation.

Scotland: No fluoridation.

Wales: No fluoridation.

England: 10% water fluoridation.

Various Other European Countries

Austria: No fluoridation – "toxic fluorides have never been added to the public water supplies in Austria." (17th February 2000).

Belgium: No fluoridation.

Czech Republic: No fluoridation – "since 1993 drinking water has not been treated with fluoride in public water supplies throughout the Czech Republic. Reasons:

Uneconomical
Unecological
Unethical
Toxicologically and physiologically debatable"

Denmark: No fluoridation – "toxic fluorides have never been added to the public water supplies." (22nd December 1999)

Finland: No fluoridation. One city, Kuopio, stopped in 1992.

France: No fluoridation – "fluoride chemicals are not included in the list of chemicals for drinking water treatment. This is due to ethical as well as medical considerations." (25th August 2000)

Germany: No fluoridation – "Generally in Germany fluoridation of drinking water is forbidden." (16th September 1999)

Luxembourg: No fluoridation – "Fluoride has never been added to the public water supplies in Luxembourg."

Holland: No fluoridation. It was rejected in 1976.

Norway: No fluoridation. It was rejected in 1975.

Spain: 3% water fluoridation.

Sweden: No fluoridation – "Nobel Medical Institute recommended against fluoridation. It is banned since 1971."

Switzerland: No fluoridation

Wasting your time. This is a boards.ie endorsed personal attack on a minor celebrity. No amount of sense will be made to counter OPs ludicrous comments.

Muise... · 23-12-2013 6:23pm

lostdisk wrote: »

Wasting your time. This is a boards.ie endorsed personal attack on a minor celebrity. No amount of sense will be made to counter OPs ludicrous comments.

Oh hai Aisling! (LOL at minor sleb btw!)

lostdisk · 23-12-2013 6:29pm

Muise... wrote: »

Oh hai Aisling! (LOL at minor sleb btw!)

Hello.

srsly78 · 23-12-2013 6:30pm

lostdisk wrote: »

Yes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKG-kbKeIo

Genghiz Cohen · 23-12-2013 6:44pm

lostdisk wrote: »

Wasting your time. This is a boards.ie endorsed personal attack on a minor celebrity. No amount of sense will be made to counter OPs ludicrous comments.

He'd need to me making sense first.

Annasopra · 23-12-2013 6:46pm

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

He'd need to me making sense first.

Don't you just love how noone can counterargue against anything in the blog posts in the OP.

WilyCoyote · 23-12-2013 6:48pm

Muise... wrote: »

I need the Girl Against Fluoride for entertainment. Your quotes without a reference are no fun.

Yeah! And pics or GTFO

Hootanany · 23-12-2013 7:32pm

Czarcasm wrote: »

Never let it be said AH has failed to deliver -

That's Ms. Fitzgibbon on the right, Jesus in the middle, and God only knows who that is on the left, possibly the Virgin Mary in that get up! :pac:

She has a 6 pack on the left:eek:

lostdisk · 23-12-2013 7:34pm

mango salsa wrote: »

Don't you just love how noone can counterargue against anything in the blog posts in the OP.

Have you read any of the counter arguments? Is it likely you're going ti change your mind?

srsly78 · 23-12-2013 7:37pm

lostdisk wrote: »

Have you read any of the counter arguments? Is it likely you're going ti change your mind?

What counter arguments? Homeopaths are people just like everyone else, why would you deny them the same rights?

lostdisk · 23-12-2013 7:43pm

srsly78 wrote: »

What counter arguments? Homeopaths are people just like everyone else, why would you deny them the same rights?

Wah?

Fr_Dougal · 23-12-2013 7:46pm

lostdisk wrote: »

Wah?

Have you ever been so far even as decided to use go want to look more like?

lostdisk · 23-12-2013 7:50pm

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Have you ever been so far even as decided to use go want to look more like?

Am I supposed to re-arrange those words to form a sentence?

Lay off the flouride for a while.

Charlatan "girl against flouride" finally exposed

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