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Ming Flanagan this morning

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    #122
    Rabelais
    Site Banned Posts: 263 ✭✭Rabelais


    P_1 wrote: »
    Good grief, Dail Eireann spending your taxes wisely yet again...

    And if a member of Government did this to Ming you can be sure there would be the usual uproar from the ne'er do wells who seem to see Ming as some type of bearded man o the people.


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    #123
    20Cent
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    Busted Flat. wrote: »
    Who bought Siteserve ?. :eek::eek:

    Denis O' Brien.


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    #124
    everdead.ie
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    Ming is elected because his constituents basically used it as a protest vote the man and I have met him is not someone I would want representing me he will do more damage to any cause he is involved in than good.

    Now he's trying to do his best to get re-elected between this and the protected bog issue he probably will. But then again he will never be in a possision of power to actually do anything because that means he would have to come up with something instead of just lambasting everyone elses ideas.


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    #125
    Seedy Arling
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    Rabelais wrote: »
    And if a member of Government did this to Ming you can be sure there would be the usual uproar from the ne'er do wells who seem to see Ming as some type of bearded man o the people.
    Very similar to the sort of thing that Healy-Rae would pull. Clientelism at its best.

    Only difference is that Healy-Rae would be derided as a slap head gombeen, but for some reason Ming is the white knight of the bong brigade and can do no wrong.


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    #126
    Rabelais
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    Seedy Arling wrote: »
    Very similar to the sort of thing that Healy-Rae would pull. Clientelism at its best.

    Only difference is that Healy-Rae would be derided as a slap head gombeen, but for some reason Ming is the white knight of the bong brigade and can do no wrong.

    Absolutely. The people of Roscommon who will have to pay for unsatisfactory water have a very legitimate grievance. This stunt this morning did nothing to put across that grievance, but did feed the ego of that self-serving attention seeker.

    They deserve better than this gombeen merchant masquerading as some sort of anti-establishment hero.


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    #127
    P_1
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    Seedy Arling wrote: »
    Very similar to the sort of thing that Healy-Rae would pull. Clientelism at its best.

    Only difference is that Healy-Rae would be derided as a slap head gombeen, but for some reason Ming is the white knight of the bong brigade and can do no wrong.

    But that's how parliamentary democracy is supposed to work.

    People have a problem that can only be fixed at a national level -> they bring the issue up with their elected representative -> their elected representative brings it up at a national level in the Dail.

    Comparing undrinkable water to the stunts the Healy-Raes have pulled over the years is laughable.


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    #128
    Lapin
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    Seedy Arling wrote: »

    Only difference is that Healy-Rae would be derided as a slap head gombeen,

    An accurate description and one he happily plays up to.


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    #129
    Busted Flat.
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    129 posts, as they say there is no such thing as bad publicity when you are fighting for your corner.


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    #130
    Seedy Arling
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    P_1 wrote: »
    But that's how parliamentary democracy is supposed to work.

    People have a problem that can only be fixed at a national level -> they bring the issue up with their elected representative -> their elected representative brings it up at a national level in the Dail.

    Comparing undrinkable water to the stunts the Healy-Raes have pulled over the years is laughable.
    Yeah, i understand how it works thanks. These issues are not specific to Roscommon either you know. Its seems staged and overly 'spectacular.' Playing to the gallery. I have to wonder at his motives, particularly in relation to re-election.

    On a side note, it is also the reason why our political system is so sh1te and always will be. Local issues should be local. The Oireachtas should be a place where people with an understanding of creating legislation in relation to national issues concerning social, legal and economic matters should be. Not a place for a fcuking school teacher, or some egocentric twerp from Roscommon grand standing in order to secure re-election. But thats another days story. :D


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    #131
    donegal__road
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    Romper_Stomper wrote: »
    Did anybody see his disgraceful behaviour in the Dáil chamber during the debate on the Water Services Bill this morning? First of all he turns up in a wooly jumper and denim jeans like a crusty while everybody else is wearing a suit (besides that other slob Wallace). Then he started ranting while using coarse language like "piss" - hardly befitting of a parliamentarian.

    To anybody on the Left - this is why people laugh at you and don't take you seriously. This is why all the socialists are hidden in the very back corner while the big boys are talking. What an embarrassment. Ming could be in trouble with Dáil authorities after his outburst. Do you honestly thing he will ever progress beyond a one-term novelty backbencher. Imagine somebody like him representing Ireland in the EU parliament or in a ministry.

    I just watched the clip of Luke Flanagan in the Dail re dirty water.

    Does he not have a point? (jumpers and profanities aside)


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    #132
    Seedy Arling
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    Lapin wrote: »
    An accurate description and one he happily plays up to.
    Waheyyyyyyyy. We're great craic in Kerry, sure a bit of drink driving never killed anyone! :pac:


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    #133
    P_1
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    Seedy Arling wrote: »
    Yeah, i understand how it works thanks. These issues are not specific to Roscommon either you know. Its seems staged and overly 'spectacular.' Playing to the gallery. I have to wonder at his motives, particularly in relation to re-election.

    On a side note, it is also the reason why our political system is so sh1te and always will be. Local issues should be local. The Oireachtas should be a place where people with an understanding of creating legislation in relation to national issues concerning social, legal and economic matters should be. Not a place for a fcuking school teacher, or some egocentric twerp from Roscommon grand standing in order to secure re-election. But thats another days story. :D

    True but given the seeming lack of fcuk giving the issue had sofar, combined with a fairly undemocratic trend of guillotining bills that the government have developed a fondness for of late, perhaps a spot of grand standing was well in order.


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    #134
    Too Tough To Die
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    He's a gentleman. He's a class act. He's a rebel and he stands up to bullies.


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    #135
    Seedy Arling
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    Too Tough To Die wrote: »
    He's a gentleman. He's a class act. He's a rebel and he stands up to bullies.
    Just like good old BC Flynn. :D


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    #136
    P_1
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    Interestingly it seems that all opposition TDs have walked out in protest about the government guillotining the bill that Ming grandstanded about. Surely that's a bigger deal than a speech and a glass of water.



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    #137
    Dravokivich
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    A lot of people are gobshítes, Ming doesn't have much of a chance to get away with it and people are all to happy to remind him of some contentious things he's done.

    But from what I've read, he had a valid concern to present and he made a point about it. A lot of the time TDs can so far removed from what they are talking about, it has to be presented right in front of them. Even then, they choose to target him and completely ignore about the point he was making. Absolutely ludicrous.


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    #138
    Sh1tbag OToole
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    Romper_Stomper wrote: »
    So he can curse and swear? Then he gave a minister a glass of water and walked out.

    I hope FG are paying you well for these posts


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    #139
    Seedy Arling
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    P_1 wrote: »
    True but given the seeming lack of fcuk giving the issue had sofar, combined with a fairly undemocratic trend of guillotining bills that the government have developed a fondness for of late, perhaps a spot of grand standing was well in order.
    Again, i have to question the motives of a man who relentlessly denied the whole penalty points thing when it was initially put to him. Different outfit, same politician. ;)


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    #140
    suicide_circus
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    Blast him with glorified piss!


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    #141
    end of the road
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    Romper_Stomper wrote: »
    He pulled a stunt where he shoved a dirty glass of water at a government minister and stomped out like a child. If you can't debate your point then why be a TD? The Dáil issued this statement
    jesus, if you find this a problem, maybe go visit parlament in some foreign countries, if theirs a problem they beat the **** out of each other and it then turns into a full blown riot, at least flanigan actually cares about the people of the country

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #142
    P_1
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    Seedy Arling wrote: »
    Again, i have to question the motives of a man who relentlessly denied the whole penalty points thing when it was initially put to him. Different outfit, same politician. ;)

    Sadly most politicians are like that these days, but I do agree with him on the water issue.


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    #143
    Dempsey
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    SDTimeout wrote: »

    Spot on Ming!


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    #144
    Lapin
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    Seedy Arling wrote: »
    On a side note, it is also the reason why our political system is so sh1te and always will be. Local issues should be local. The Oireachtas should be a place where people with an understanding of creating legislation in relation to national issues concerning social, legal and economic matters should be. Not a place for a fcuking school teacher, or some egocentric twerp from Roscommon grand standing in order to secure re-election. But thats another days story. :D

    I fully agree with this, and while the state of the water in Roscommon is a local issue and should be dealt with locally, the imposition of water charges was enacted by central government.

    So while people are expected to pay for water that is unfit for human consumption, Ming is right to address the issue in the place where the legislation to introduce water charges was passed. Dáil Éireann.

    Whatever one thinks of his methods of delivery, it is difficult to argue against the point he was making.


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    #145
    mikeym
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    SDTimeout wrote: »

    He has a point.

    Its a pity some people didnt bother watching the video and make badly informed comments about Ming.


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    #146
    P_1
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    mikeym wrote: »
    He has a point.

    Its a pity some people didnt bother watching the video and make badly informed comments about Ming.

    Out of interest I wonder if the Sale of Goods and Supply of Service Act would apply to what is essentially a tax. Now there's an interesting angle the opponents of the water charges could take.


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    #147
    Nemeses
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    mikeym wrote: »
    He has a point.

    Its a pity some people didn't bother watching the video and make badly informed comments about Ming.

    Thats because Ming wasn't wearing a "Suit"

    The dude made a very valid point & demonstrated it well.

    I suppose it pays well to be an armchair politician.


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    #148
    Seedy Arling
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    Lapin wrote: »
    I fully agree with this, and while the state of the water in Roscommon is a local issue and should be dealt with locally, the imposition of water charges was enacted by central government.

    So while people are expected to pay for water that is unfit for human consumption, Ming is right to address the issue in the place where the legislation to introduce water charges was passed. Dáil Éireann.

    Whatever one thinks of his methods of delivery, it is difficult to argue against the point he was making.
    I suppose the point i was making was about his underlying motive. He has proven in the past to not being exactly honest you know. Is it for the greater good or for the Ming re-election good?

    Still, the political system has me jaded as a whole too, but i honestly believe him to be no better than the rest of them.


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    #149
    Valetta
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    He's an embarrassment to any right thinking person.

    Which says a lot for the calibre of poster in this thread.


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    #150
    old hippy
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    This smacks of deliberate character assasination. OP, what's your game?


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    #151
    Valetta
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    old hippy wrote: »
    This smacks of deliberate character assasination. OP, what's your game?

    I think Luke has done a very good job of assassinating his own character without any help from the OP.


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