Likely places to get a PS4 without a Pre-order

Caoimhin

Stupid question I know, I didn't pre-order a PS4 because I just did not think I would have the money to buy one. But as luck would have it I obtained enough cash to cover the console and I can trade in my old system for games etc.

Have tried everywhere, xtra vision, Harvey Normans, gamestop Tesco etc, but to no avail. If anyone has any ideas where I could get one this side of Christmas please let me know.

Many thanks,
Kev:(

ironictoaster

Tesco or Argos. On a first come first served basis.

Caoimhin

I rang both and they said only pre-orders will get them on the day of release. Tesco rep said there is no point showing up on the day if you didnt pre book it

ironictoaster

You've been lied to. Neither do preorders. You can't reserve the console online with Argos and I've never heard of preorder with tesco.

hallo dare

I'd say staff have the first round of consoles snapped up.

Caoimhin

Thats probably true seeing as each Tesco is only getting like 15 consoles

Caoimhin

pretty sure you can pre-order with Argos http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/1222540/c_1/1|category_root|Video+games|14419738/c_2/3|cat_19780877|PS4|37328275.htm

and I will try another Tesco and double check

ironictoaster

Caoimhin wrote: »

pretty sure you can pre-order with Argos http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/1222540/c_1/1|category_root|Video+games|14419738/c_2/3|cat_19780877|PS4|37328275.htm

and I will try another Tesco and double check

With Argos you can reserve a item and collect it in store. Cant do it with the PS4.

Caoimhin

will give argos a call in a bit, if I could get it on release day I would be very happy indded

happytramp

It's unfortunate that no one who hasn't pre-ordered will be able to get one at launch. In the US most shops had a specific amount that were to be sold on a first come first served basis. Kind of takes away from the buzz of a launch if there's none available.

Caoimhin

I agree, especially since I didnt think I would actually have the money

Caoimhin

Rang argos in jervis there, the rep said they do not know when they are getting them, how many they are getting or if they will get them at all

Cantona's Collars

Caoimhin wrote: »

Rang argos in jervis there, the rep said they do not know when they are getting them, how many they are getting or if they will get them at all

Had a chat with CS in Argos & Tesco today,basically both stores are in the dark about stock numbers as they are not being delivered like usual stock.It's first come first served in both stores and NO midnight selling in Tesco.

Argos said keep an eye on the website until up to launch day but best option then is to turn up early at the door.

Tesco will most likely follow the same practice as they are doing for Xbox One tomorrow,they aren't selling it at midnight tonight but it will be available from 7am tomorrow so expect PS4 to be sold the same way.

Zonda999

The pessimist in me here says that in places like Argos and Tesco, the staff will have caught on and will take most of whatevers they get. There have been reportss in the media that have been way OTT in my opinion which may leave people thinking that there is zero chance of getting one this side of Christmas, which I don;t think is the case

Hierro_4

Sorry if this has been explained sever times already but why have Sony not made enough PS4s for launch? Were they not able to or did they just badly misjudge the demand?

Seems ridiculous that lots of people won't have it for Xmas.

Klair88

Hierro_4 wrote: »

Sorry if this has been explained sever times already but why have Sony not made enough PS4s for launch? Were they not able to or did they just badly misjudge the demand?

Seems ridiculous that lots of people won't have it for Xmas.

They made a lot of PS4's. Millions of them. They're all going to the people who pre-ordered them first. Which is millions of people.

I feel you are just badly misjudging manufacturing process rate for these types of electronics.

There's the first "Launch batch" Thats sold out. Even the second "Pre-christmas" batch is sold out.

Zonda999

At a guess, its a mix of not finalising all aspects of the design and manufacture process of the machine until relatively late, and probably more crucially, trying to "right-size" the manufacturing capacity they think is appropriate for the life of the console, not just to cater for the high demand that exists for the few months after launch

Hierro_4

Klair88 wrote: »

They made a lot of PS4's. Millions of them. They're all going to the people who pre-ordered them first. Which is millions of people.

I feel you are just badly misjudging manufacturing process rate for these types of electronics.

There's the first "Launch batch" Thats sold out. Even the second "Pre-christmas" batch is sold out.

I'm not misjudging anything, as I'm not able to judge in the first place. I have a limited knowledge on manufacturing process rates.

It is why I asked the question. Thanks for the response anyway.

Klair88

Hierro_4 wrote: »

I'm not misjudging anything, as I'm not able to judge in the first place. I have a limited knowledge on manufacturing process rates.

It is why I asked the question. Thanks for the response anyway.

Neither do i, but it seems they have made a lot of them.

But a lot of demand is on it and i'd say its one of the hottest items this christmas, Not sure it could ever beat the demand of the Wii in 2006.

If you haven't got a pre-order for any before christmas, constantly check Argos, Harvey Norman or tesco's. They don't take pre-orders and you might be lucky and be able to get one by walking into the shop.

Zonda999

As well, it looks good for Sony that the ps4 is "sold out*. It creates media hype and a load of free publicity for their console

Hierro_4

Klair88 wrote: »

Neither do i, but it seems they have made a lot of them.

But a lot of demand is on it and i'd say its one of the hottest items this christmas, Not sure it could ever beat the demand of the Wii in 2006.

If you haven't got a pre-order for any before christmas, constantly check Argos, Harvey Norman or tesco's. They don't take pre-orders and you might be lucky and be able to get one by walking into the shop.

Cheers, I'll look into that.

NotorietyH

Klair88 wrote: »

If you haven't got a pre-order for any before christmas, constantly check Argos, Harvey Norman or tesco's. They don't take pre-orders and you might be lucky and be able to get one by walking into the shop.

Harvey Norman do take pre-orders.

wandatowell

Hierro_4 wrote: »

Sorry if this has been explained sever times already but why have Sony not made enough PS4s for launch? Were they not able to or did they just badly misjudge the demand?

Seems ridiculous that lots of people won't have it for Xmas.

Do you know how many units Sony produced?


Ignore anything you read about there being a shortage of consoles as only Sony will know how many they have.

DUBLINHITMAN

Going by what jack trenton told ign they have more than enough supply for before xmass

Caoimhin

Iooks like I will be scoping out tesco and argos

Cantona's Collars

Zonda999 wrote: »

The pessimist in me here says that in places like Argos and Tesco, the staff will have caught on and will take most of whatevers they get. There have been reportss in the media that have been way OTT in my opinion which may leave people thinking that there is zero chance of getting one this side of Christmas, which I don;t think is the case

Was told in Tesco that staff are banned from snapping up consoles when they get delivered.

I think people need to relax a bit on the pre order front.

The launch in America went off without any major reports of shortages.
A poster here who's based there now said there was even enough for cash buyers at the launch he attended.

They staggered the release to combat shortages, that's why Japan is waiting until Feb and we waited two weeks.

While there may be shortages on the initial launch, you will get one before Xmas.

http://www.designntrend.com/articles/9177/20131119/playstation-4-stock-sufficient-last-through-end-2013-according-sony-exec.htm

Sony was able to ramp up production enough to get enough units to sell in its 2013 launch countries, and timed the launches so there would be no shortages. That’s why the console launched first in the U.S. on Nov. 15, and will launch in Europe on Nov. 29. The company will hold the Japanese release date of the PS4 until early 2014.

"We are ensuring that we have the bro,” House said. “On the other hand, we're not engendering frustration by having a shortage of supply. I think through the holiday season that we'll be in good supply."

Sony are saying they have enough for Xmas, and it hasn't even launched here yet so there's no need for any wild hysteria just yet.
At the end of the day, if America sells 1million, the total needed for Ireland isn't going to be an awful lot.

DUBLINHITMAN

Saw a link today that ireland has more ps4, s
pre ordered than any other country per capita in the world ill try find it
Found it

http://www.thegamingliberty.com/2013/11/gamestop-ireland-has-most-pre-orders-for-playstation-4-worldwide-on-a-per-store-basis/

marvsins

DUBLINHITMAN wrote: »

Saw a link today that ireland has more ps4, s
pre ordered than any other country per capita in the world ill try find it
Found it

http://www.thegamingliberty.com/2013/11/gamestop-ireland-has-most-pre-orders-for-playstation-4-worldwide-on-a-per-store-basis/

Make sense. I remember years back an article stating Ireland had the highest PS2 sales per capita in the world outside of Japan.

DUBLINHITMAN

@marvsins cheers for fixing the link

I wonder exactly how many units will be sold in gamireland

DUBLINHITMAN

@marvsins cheers for fixing the link

I wonder exactly how many units will be sold in gamireland

Caoimhin

Called up another tesco there, they're in the dark but said keep checking and it's very likely they will start selling them at 7am launch day , first come first serve basis

seanand

and heres me thinking most people had xboxs maybe its just people i know bought xboxs

ironictoaster

seanand wrote: »

and heres me thinking most people had xboxs maybe its just people i know bought xboxs

The tide is turning for a lot of people, including myself. I just cannot justify paying an extra €100 for the xbox one at launch for a feature I wouldn't be arsed using (cool piece of technology nevertheless).

seanand

ironictoaster wrote: »

The tide is turning for a lot of people, including myself. I just cannot justify paying an extra €100 for the xbox one at launch for a feature I wouldn't be arsed using (cool piece of technology nevertheless).

i see it as an investment over 7 years so the extra hundred doesnt bother me but im waiting to see what my friends get before i decide tho i hope its the ps4 prefer the exclusives

Vinz Mesrine

I've worked in game stores since 2003, I have seen plenty of launches where the supplier says they won't have enough to supply in time for Xmas, it has happened for every single console launch. This is just to whip parents into a frenzy thinking they won't have one for little johnny on Christmas morning which means they will buy the first one they see available.

It works every time and it's working with the xbox one and ps4 this time, I can't believe people haven't copped on to it yet.

Ri_Nollaig

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

I've worked in game stores since 2003, I have seen plenty of launches where the supplier says they won't have enough to supply in time for Xmas, it has happened for every single console launch. This is just to whip parents into a frenzy thinking they won't have one for little johnny on Christmas morning which means they will buy the first one they see available.

It works every time and it's working with the xbox one and ps4 this time, I can't believe people haven't copped on to it yet.

but the Wii and 360 were in huge demand and short supply when they were originally released. I remember you still couldn't pick up a Wii off the shelf 6 months later.

Vinz Mesrine

Ri_Nollaig wrote: »

but the Wii and 360 were in huge demand and short supply when they were originally released. I remember you still couldn't pick up a Wii off the shelf 6 months later.

I remember both those launches and I remember sitting on stock of both on Xmas eve. There were plenty available despite what Nintendo and Microsoft wanted people to believe. Iirc, it was the same situation with the psp.

DUBLINHITMAN

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

I remember both those launches and I remember sitting on stock of both on Xmas eve. There were plenty available despite what Nintendo and Microsoft wanted people to believe. Iirc, it was the same situation with the psp.

So if I scout around after release they should have them and not refuse to sell them if I said I was told by managment that they have them in stock ???

happytramp

seanand wrote: »

i see it as an investment over 7 years so the extra hundred doesnt bother

That's why I'd go with the PS4. Over the last few years Sony has really continued to support the PS3 with great games (the last of us, gta6, god of war etc) while Microsoft shut down their studio's, switched focus to family friendly games and relied on multi-platform games. Also, I suppose since it's more powerful, more developers and cheaper, it makes sense that way too. Although If you're more into media integration the Xbox looks pretty cool too.

Vinz Mesrine

DUBLINHITMAN wrote: »

So if I scout around after release they should have them and not refuse to sell them if I said I was told by managment that they have them in stock ???

I'd 100% guarantee that anyone wanting a ps4 will have one by Christmas day.

Caoimhin

I hope your are right, would love to spend my Christmas time off doing some serious gaming. Planning to scout the Argos website and camp outside Tesco on the 29th.

dan hibiki

Yeah, i have to say that I would be massively shocked if you couldnt pick one up on launch day from argos/tesco/harvey norman. maybe evn currys or pc world as well.

lilywhitearmy

I have an appointment at 9 in Dublin on Friday so I'm gonna try tesco & Argos in drogheda at around 7.30-8am. Here's hoping!

Caoimhin

lilywhitearmy wrote: »

I have an appointment at 9 in Dublin on Friday so I'm gonna try tesco & Argos in drogheda at around 7.30-8am. Here's hoping!

Good luck to ya I'm going try tesco in artane

jonerkinsella

Lads. Its only Tesco extra stores that are getting the consoles in.

whiterebel

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

I remember both those launches and I remember sitting on stock of both on Xmas eve. There were plenty available despite what Nintendo and Microsoft wanted people to believe. Iirc, it was the same situation with the psp.

You must have been in a quiet shop for the Wii launch, that was crazy, it took months to catch up to the demand.

Caoimhin

quick update, still no word on how Tesco and Argos are handling the PS4 launch

EarlyStorms

Caoimhin wrote: »

quick update, still no word on how Tesco and Argos are handling the PS4 launch

I heard Tesco sold whatever XBox Ones they had from 8am. Didn't hear anything about Argos, did they actually have consoles for launch?!

Cwarim

EarlyStorms wrote: »

I heard Tesco sold whatever XBox Ones they had from 8am. Didn't hear anything about Argos, did they actually have consoles for launch?!

This is accurate - I was there at Tesco Clearwater - and I'd say it will be the exact same with the PS4.

They only got 4 Xboxs and I'd wager they might only get 6-10 PS4s. Maybe less, who can say? Tesco did not know how many consoles they had even on the morning until they went to the back room and checked. So they won't know and nor will we, you'll just have to show up and chance your arm.

lilywhitearmy

It's Tesco Extra in Drogheda so I'm grand in the regard. Will there be much of a queue, like would I need to be there from 7 or earlier?