Where will we finish ?

positivenote

read a very good piece on how we have the potential to win the league this season...
http://assoc-football.com/2013/08/19/why-spurs-arent-going-to-sell-bale-or-at-least-why-they-shouldnt/

shamrock55

mickman

Dont think its possible for us to win the league - we are still a thin squad, especially in defense and up front.

Compared to city, our squad is very small and this will be an issue with injuries and europa league etc

Ilik Urgee

Well if Bale's on the billboards in Times Square they must be favorites.

What a crock of shit

White Heart Loon

Not too sure about winning this year, we're certainly building one that can compete for the next few years with depth and strength in every area. The problem with massive squads like City and Chelsea is that it's hard to keep players on the bench week in week out and keep them happy. Having three/four rotating players for each position is a tighter knit squad, but more susceptible to injury problems. This is why AVB is opting for players who can play multiple roles in the squad. I can seriously see us pushing for a title after this season.

Hatch99

please noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

positivenote

okay let someone clarify this for me ? why do we have an inferiority complex... its the best squad we have had since I can remember, almost every player has been capped as full internationals, plenty of experience, superb manger who could have been in charge of Real or PSG with millions to spend... im not saying thta we will win the league, but if we kept Bale there is no reason for some of the 'we cant win it' or 'to suggest so is ridiculous'. I honestly dont think that it would be a huge surprise if we were in with a shout. I know season after season they never fail to let us down in some way or another, but why no confidence for the vast majority of yids? Top 4 should be the least of our expectations as there is no way arse/liverpool etc are as good as we are.

rant over

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

positivenote wrote: »

okay let someone clarify this for me ? why do we have an inferiority complex... its the best squad we have had since I can remember, almost every player has been capped as full internationals, plenty of experience, superb manger who could have been in charge of Real or PSG with millions to spend... im not saying thta we will win the league, but if we kept Bale there is no reason for some of the 'we cant win it' or 'to suggest so is ridiculous'. I honestly dont think that it would be a huge surprise if we were in with a shout. I know season after season they never fail to let us down in some way or another, but why no confidence for the vast majority of yids? Top 4 should be the least of our expectations as there is no way arse/liverpool etc are as good as we are.

rant over

You've answered it yourself in your post. How many times over the years have we been left bitterly disappointed? Personally speaking, in whatever I do, I hope for the best but expect the worst. We shouldn't be expecting Spurs to challenge for anything more than 4th, because then if we don't get 4th that will lead to a lot of frustration and unrealistic ambitions, the former we've experienced here almost on a yearly basis.

If we get fourth this year I'll be delighted, anything else is a bonus.

aramush

That's my laugh in for today!

Here Precious2

aramush wrote: »

That's my laugh in for today!

Go back over to all your pool chums and keep on crying:P

slegs

aramush wrote: »

That's my laugh in for today!

I am keen to see how the Liverpool "Football Club" title challenge will work out this year.

Lol

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

aramush wrote: »

That's my laugh in for today!

We're all laughing too, albeit at you rather than with you. Don't worry though, next year is Liverpool's year. If ye play ye're cards right we might give you Siggs for a special price;)

aramush

slegs wrote: »

I am keen to see how the Liverpool "Football Club" title challenge will work out this year.

Lol

Why the inverted commas? We all know we wont challenge, its amusing, if a little sad that Spurs supporters think they will challenge for the title.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

aramush wrote: »

Why the inverted commas? We all know we wont challenge, its amusing, if a little sad that Spurs supporters think they will challenge for the title.

ziedth

aramush wrote: »

Why the inverted commas? We all know we wont challenge, its amusing, if a little sad that Spurs supporters think they will challenge for the title.

I find it amusing that a supporter of a team that has finished closer to relegation than the title for the last three years finds it not the least bit silly to come on here and make a smart arse comment on our title ambitions.

Of course none of us here think we are going to challenge. We're 25/1 in the bookies for a very good reason, but this is the first time in many of our lives that the POSSIBILITY of a challenge is there. That is a world away from the team with two wins before 'Arry took over a few short years ago.

One could say we are ironically as delusional as Liverpool fans to even begin to think "this is our year" but I have seen us battle for survival, a decade in mid table obscurity, loose cup finals and dodgy pastas so I'll grab this chance to realistically dream of playing with the big boys for the short while that I can.

aramush

ziedth wrote: »

I find it amusing that a supporter of a team that has finished closer to relegation than the title for the last three years finds it not the least bit silly to come on here and make a smart arse comment on our title ambitions.

Of course none of us here think we are going to challenge. We're 25/1 in the bookies for a very good reason, but this is the first time in many of our lives that the POSSIBILITY of a challenge is there. That is a world away from the team with two wins before 'Arry took over a few short years ago.

One could say we are ironically as delusional as Liverpool fans to even begin to think "this is our year" but I have seen us battle for survival, a decade in mid table obscurity, loose cup finals and dodgy pastas so I'll grab this chance to realistically dream of playing with the big boys for the short while that I can.

The biggest myth in football, Liverpool fans are delusional. I think in recent years any true Liverpool supporters expectations have lowered dramatically, we hardly have a squad good enough to grace the top four let alone win a title.

Anyway, this is a Spurs thread but it was funny to think that people believe Spurs might challenge. One step at a time, if you make the top four be grateful.

Here Precious2

aramush wrote: »

One step at a time, if you make the top four be grateful.

We have made top4 twice in last 4 years...nothing new to us there.

Worry about winning the merseyside league this season.;)

tippspur

Careful now.

Hatch99

Lads, this thread is embarrassing....

Sugarlumps

Hatch99 wrote: »

Lads, this thread is embarrassing....

Ding, Ding!!

slegs

Nothing wrong with a bit of optimism. The beginning of the season is likely the only time you will have it.

God knows Liverpool fans have been blessed with deluded optimism for many years.

Spurs fans know full well that 4th would be a huge result.

Hatch99

slegs wrote: »

Nothing wrong with a bit of optimism. The beginning of the season is likely the only time you will have it.

God knows Liverpool fans have been blessed with deluded optimism for many years.

Spurs fans know full well that 4th would be a huge result.

I have no issue with optimism, but for us to mock Liverpool fans on a serious note is a bit rich. Granted we have finished ahead of them over the last few years, but it's not long ago they were winning the European Cup so I personally will hold off until we have at least got to the CL before I take the pish out of them.

Here Precious2

Hatch99 wrote: »

so I personally will hold off until we have at least got to the CL before I take the pish out of them.

You'll find that one of their lot came in here on the wind up originally....

slegs

Hatch99 wrote: »

I have no issue with optimism, but for us to mock Liverpool fans on a serious note is a bit rich. Granted we have finished ahead of them over the last few years, but it's not long ago they were winning the European Cup so I personally will hold off until we have at least got to the CL before I take the pish out of them.

I don't think we are mocking them. Their superiority complex comes out without much prompting.

Hatch99

Here Precious2 wrote: »

You'll find that one of their lot came in here on the wind up originally....

Look at the title of the thread, can you blame them ?

slegs wrote: »

I don't think we are mocking them. Their superiority complex comes out without much prompting.

Fair enough mate.

2nd Row Donkey

Nothing wrong with optimism. And we are all Spurs fans here and we all want the same thing - to win the EPL but lets keep our feet on the ground.

all these new additions to the squad, not to mention the bodies going out the door mean alot of change in a short period of time. The next few weeks or even a month or two are going to be bumpy. Lets enjoy the ride and look forward to a serious top 4 challenge but lets save the EPL titles talk for 2014/15

positivenote

so when is it okay to say that we might have a chance of challenging for the title? if we keep bale, there is no reason with the quality we have that it is an unrealistic suggestion to be in contention. top 4 shouldn't be the height of our ambitions surely? having finished there 2 of the last 3 seasons, and reached our highest points total last season we should be looking to improve on that rather than treating 4th as the only realistic and viable success...


cue the onslaught of abuse....

jobeenfitz

Some of us, deep down must be thinking if the new recruits gel quickly and we are lucky with injuries we could be thereabouts come April. I am sure the team will be thinking this and if their not I would worry. Fair play to you Positivenote for your optimistic thread. Nobody is saying "we are going to win the league". But who knows what could happen. It may not be likely but it is possible. The bookies have almost halved our price from 33/1 to 18/1 in a couple of weeks.
I'm not saying we will win the league but I am sure as hell hoping it can and will happen. So what if I'm completely wrong and someone laughs and calls me a fool. I don't give a sh1t what some pool, gooner or other fan thinks.

COYS, win the fukn league.

2nd Row Donkey

Sure its possible. We have the players capable of a record points finish but I think City and Chelsea are just going to be that little bit out of reach, and United are united so you just don't know.

Bit worried about all the foreigners we've signed all of a sudden. Its not that long ago that HR had to come in and gut the squad and bring back some brittish back bone when the lads bought under Ramos and Jol to a lesser extent didn't cut it.

Anyway, these new lads are a step above the level of players we had back then (aren't they)

This weekends NLD will tell a lot.

Kiith

We definitely do have a better team / squad then we have had in a long time, at least on paper. I just hope it doesn't take too long for the team to gel. A win this weekend would certainly be a nice way to start.

mickman

Kiith wrote: »

We definitely do have a better team / squad then we have had in a long time, at least on paper. I just hope it doesn't take too long for the team to gel. A win this weekend would certainly be a nice way to start.

gelling is the big problem here. To be honest the 4 new lads have settled very well especially soldado and pauliho

Lamela may be a different story, the last few argentines didnt work too well - veron / tevez

irishmover

For some reason this thread doesn't seem so silly anymore...

Pacing Mule

Looking at today's Liverpool Man Utd game we've nothing to fear from either of them.

Pacing Mule

Pageant Messiah wrote: »

Looking at today's Liverpool Man Utd game we've nothing to fear from either of them.

And looking at us today they're probably thinking the same

2nd Row Donkey

Back to earth with a bump.

Still lots to be cheerful about. Promising signs. But top 4 will be the main objective.

Left Back on the Bench

get rid of this thread. we'll be lucky to get 4th

jobeenfitz

Left Back on the Bench wrote: »

get rid of this thread. we'll be lucky to get 4th

Your just a bit sore cos we lost. You are not the only one. If it bothers ya dont read it, simple.

Glebee

Does the fact that after 3 games we have not scored from play bother anyone else. I know that its going to take time for the team to gel together but after the Arsenal defeat only a win against Norwich is going to get us back on track.

White Heart Loon

Glebee wrote: »

Does the fact that after 3 games we have not scored from play bother anyone else. I know that its going to take time for the team to gel together but after the Arsenal defeat only a win against Norwich is going to get us back on track.

Yes, we need a no 10 to get the ball to Soldado, Dembele and Siggy don't suit the job, but we have Holtby (just back from injury) and Eriksen to play in the middle from now on.

ziedth

I was watching united in the pub yesterday with a couple of the lads and one (a city fan) was winding the lads up by saying we were a bigger title Challenger than united. General argy bargy all round till someone asked a very good question "at what point are spurs going to be taken seriously?"

Yes, fixtures have been good to us and you couldn't possibly begin to believe that we have a chance but at what point assuming things thick along like they have been do we start to dare to dream?

I reckon its gotta be the new year before you really start to see what teams are made of.

slegs

If we are top 3 on Jan 1st we are in with a shout

Hatch99

slegs wrote: »

If we are top 3 on Jan 1st we are in with a shout

Not if we are 3rd and 15 points behind the top 2 :P

I'd take 4th now, fcuk all this title talk, it's garbage.

jobeenfitz

Hatch99 wrote: »

Not if we are 3rd and 15 points begind the top 2 :P

I'd take 4th now, fcuk all this title talk, it's garbage.

Yes 99, We would all take 4th, but you cant knock a man with ambition.

jobeenfitz

jobeenfitz wrote: »

Yes 99, We would all take 4th, but you cant knock a man with ambition.

Or a woman, Jesus, I'm a fcukn sexist

Leinstersqspur

Let's not get ahead of ourselves, 4th place with style and finesse would do me!

If we're in the mix with ten games to go then anything is possible:cool::cool:

Devo from Dublin

Win the Europa
Top 3 in the Prem.
Semi Finals in one of the cups.

Job done.

jobeenfitz

Like most Spurs fans top four this year (again) would make me happy. First place would be amazing. I'm a realist(ish) and don't expect to win the title but we have a shot and Im not afraid to say it. To dare is to dream.

2nd Row Donkey

Obviously you need to be top 3-4 come Jan 1st to have any serious title ambitions but I personally cannot wait to see where we are around mid-November, especially if 1 or 2 of our rivals (United, city and Chelsea) have dropped more points in line with their current form in Aug/Sept.

Hatch99

4th in the league and the FA Cup would do me nicely

Devo from Dublin

Hatch99 wrote: »

4th in the league and the FA Cup would do me nicely

Jaysus, show some imagination.....;)

Hatch99

Devo from Dublin wrote: »

Jaysus, show some imagination.....;)

love cup final day, been far too long since we've been involved