Irish teenager is 'being beaten to hell' in a Cairo prison

listermint

Seachmall wrote: »

A 16 year old risking his life to protest a murderous regime and promote democracy is admirable in my books.

Much better than a 16 year old downing a few cans of Dutch and getting pissed around town.


I say the government should do everything they can to bring him home.

Depends on your version of Democracy, do you understand the complexity at play over their at the moment ?

And what the ousted government were bringing in particularly pertaining to the rights of women as per the UN human rights charter.

I would garner from your post you dont have a clue.

Boombastic

listermint wrote: »

Depends on your version of Democracy, do you understand the complexity at play over their at the moment ?

And what the ousted government were bringing in particularly pertaining to the rights of women as per the UN human rights charter.

I would garner from your post you dont have a clue.

How much do you reckon a 17 year old Irish citzen would understand about the situation, enough to protest and risk their lives in Egypt?

listermint

Boombastic wrote: »

How much do you reckon a 17 year old Irish citzen would understand about the situation, enough to protest and risk their lives in Egypt?

What does age or citizenship have to do with it?


Anyone can educate themselves on the matters at hand. Im unsure as to what your question is.

Boombastic

listermint wrote: »

What does age or citizenship have to do with it?


Anyone can educate themselves on the matters at hand. Im unsure as to what your question is.

Who is educating them on such matters and what bias slant?


The age and citizenship refer to the age and citizenship of this lad in prison

listermint

Boombastic wrote: »

Who is educating them on such matters and what bias slant?

I am unsure as to which side you think i am on ?

also reread the post i was replying to..

Nodin

Boombastic wrote: »

Keep up Nodin, I answered that in Post #42

Why can't an Irish person protest in Canada?

Boombastic

listermint wrote: »

I am unsure as to which side you think i am on ?

also reread the post i was replying to..

I'm just wondering what motivated this boy to risk his life in violent protests in a third world country he has never lived

Nodin

listermint wrote: »

What does age or citizenship have to do with it?


Anyone can educate themselves on the matters at hand. Im unsure as to what your question is.

I'd say its "What are the Muslamic infidels at now?" meself.

Nodin

Boombastic wrote: »

I just wondering what motivated this boy to risk his life in violent protests in a third world country he has never lived

....he has family there? He gives a crap? Perhaps both.

bumper234

Boombastic wrote: »

I'm just wondering what motivated this boy to risk his life in violent protests in HIS ANCESTRAL HOME

FYP

Call Me Jimmy

Boombastic wrote: »

Did the parents not move to Ireland for a better life, were they out protesting at the bank bail outs or any other Irish issue?

Were you?

Guy:Incognito

As far as I can tell the only evidence to say hes been beaten to anything is that the sister thats here was talking to someone else on saturday who had been released from the same place and said they were beating men , but that the person didnt know her brother or what he looked like. So possibly not beaten to hell.

listermint

Boombastic wrote: »

I'm just wondering what motivated this boy to risk his life in violent protests in a third world country he has never lived

The same thing that motivates the protests after the 12th July, Mob mentality and the feeling of one group being oppressed by another (rightly or wrongly) perceptions are determined by your surroundings.

Boombastic

bumper234 wrote: »

FYP

Hey son, you've just got your leaving cert result and you got accepted in to the University course to become a Human Rights lawyer and really help people



Hey son, go protest and possibly get yourself killed


I know which I'd want for my children

Nodin

Boombastic wrote: »

Hey son, (........) children

It's been explained to you why he might want to go.

Boombastic

Nodin wrote: »

It's been explained to you why he might want to go.

Because he was radicalized?

bumper234

Boombastic wrote: »

Because he was radicalized?

Have you ever taken to the streets protested about ANYTHING ever?

Nodin

Boombastic wrote: »

Because he was radicalized?

You can always tell there's an agenda when people start evading points made.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=86082528&postcount=70

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=86082530&postcount=71

Boombastic

Nodin wrote: »

You can always tell there's an agenda when people start evading points made.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=86082528&postcount=70

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=86082530&postcount=71

They're guesses, just as valid as mine

Boombastic

bumper234 wrote: »

Have you ever taken to the streets protested about ANYTHING ever?

I was going to protest against a regime in a foreign unstable third world country but then I thought to myself 'am I ****ing stupid, I might get killed' and stayed at home

bumper234

Boombastic wrote: »

They're guesses, just as valid as mine

Boombastic wrote: »

I'm just wondering what motivated this boy to risk his life in violent protests in HIS ANCESTRAL HOME

This is not a guess. His parents are Egyptian his grandparents are Egyptian ergo Egypt is his ancestral home.

bumper234

Boombastic wrote: »

I was going to protest against a regime in a foreign unstable third world country but then I thought to myself 'am I ****ing stupid, I might get killed' and stayed at home

I will take that as a no then. Also why do you keep insisting Egypt is a "third world country"?

Nodin

Boombastic wrote: »

They're guesses, just as valid as mine

....no, given that it is his ancestral home and he has family there, while you've been screaming "radical" since the OP with SFA to go on.

By the way - you never explained this from the OP

What was a 17 year old who was born and raised in Ireland doing at a protest in Egypt, is there a radical element here in Ireland and what measures are been taken to counteract this? This is not the first teenager who has gone to fight a foreign cause.

How did we get from "protest" to "radical element" and then to "not the first teenager who has gone to fight a foreign cause"? Explain the logic to me, please.

You might also be as good as to answer Bumper234's question.

Nodin

Boombastic wrote: »

I was going to protest against a regime in a foreign unstable third world country but then I thought to myself 'am I ****ing stupid, I might get killed' and stayed at home

He said "anything, ever", I believe....

Boombastic

Nodin wrote: »

He said "anything, ever", I believe....

I'm not the one possibly being beaten in an Egyptian prison


Breathing hate through generations with this ancestral crap. Why didn't his father stay in Egypt? was it because he could have a better life in Ireland? Why would he allow his son to go back and get killed in a country he removed himself from?

There is a protest at the Egyptian Embassy today. Saw report on Breakingnews.


http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/gardai-called-to-protest-at-egyptian-embassy-in-dublin-604100.html

Boombastic

Jake1 wrote: »

There is a protest at the Egyptian Embassy today. Saw report on Breakingnews.


http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/gardai-called-to-protest-at-egyptian-embassy-in-dublin-604100.html

It would have been a lot safer for them to go down to that to express their views

Nodin

Boombastic wrote: »

I'm not the one possibly being beaten in an Egyptian prison


Breathing hate through generations with this ancestral crap.

He asked -"Have you ever taken to the streets protested about ANYTHING ever?"

Have you?

From your OP

What was a 17 year old who was born and raised in Ireland doing at a protest in Egypt, is there a radical element here in Ireland and what measures are been taken to counteract this? This is not the first teenager who has gone to fight a foreign cause.

How did we get from "protest" to "radical element" and then to "not the first teenager who has gone to fight a foreign cause"? Explain the logic to me, please.

partyatmygaff

Boombastic wrote: »

It would have been a lot safer for them to go down to that to express their views

Eh... the main aim of the protest appears to be to bring him back to Ireland. No doubt the people there are all friends of his dad who probably asked them to protest.

Boombastic

Nodin wrote: »

He asked -"Have you ever taken to the streets protested about ANYTHING ever?"

Have you?

From your OP



How did we get from "protest" to "radical element" and then to "not the first teenager who has gone to fight a foreign cause"? Explain the logic to me, please.

This child was in Egypt at a PROTEST. He was possibly captured, imprisoned and beaten. He is an Irish citizen so it is a FOREIGN CAUSE. If he gets home safely he will be angry and bitter about the people who beat him. He may use that angerness and bitterness to promote a radical element (Although the fact that he was out protesting, with such high stakes involved (His Life) would lead me to believe that he is already involved with a RADICAL ELEMENT.