Welsh Lions: Brian O'Driscoll dropped from the 23 for 3rd Test [MOD NOTE POST 1]

thomond2006 · 07-07-2013 6:00pm

ThirdMan wrote: »

Who's Philips? Was that the big lad?

There's plenty big lads in that Lions team! :P

Phillips was the starting scrum-half. He was very poor and Murray was comfortably better when he replaced Phillips. It was a dreadful decision by Gatland to bring Phillips back.

So I can't agree that Gatland got it 'absolutely right'.

ThirdMan · 07-07-2013 6:03pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

There's plenty big lads in that Lions team! :P

Phillips was the starting scrum-half. He was very poor and Murray was comfortably better when he replaced Phillips. It was a dreadful decision by Gatland to bring Phillips back.

So I can't agree that Gatland got it 'absolutely right'.

I'm only pulling your leg, and I take your point. Gatland got it right, but only right.

jamiedav2011 · 07-07-2013 6:05pm

ThirdMan wrote: »

I'm only pulling your leg, and I take your point. Gatland got it right, but only right.

Getting it right and winning are mutually exclusive though.
That's the crux of this whole argument and it's something a lot of people don't get.

Gatland won, he got the selection and gameplan mostly right, but that doesn't mean he's vindicated at all.

.ak · 07-07-2013 6:13pm

ThirdMan wrote: »

Incidentally, is asking that people 'get over it' breaking the Forum Charter?

No, but back seat modding is.

wonderfullife · 07-07-2013 7:27pm

The Lions victory really kick-started a tremendous weekend of success in British and Irish sport, and i'm sure a lot of them drew inspiration from it. And the behaviour and sheer class of BOD this week will surely inspire many for a long time.

Since that win, we've (british and irish) had:

Andy Murray win Wimbledon.

Dan Martin win a stage of Tour de France.

Graeme McDowell winning the golf.

With the exception of McDowell possibly, these events dont come by very often. It's been 77 years since a British winner of Wimbledon, 16 years since the last Lions Series win and 21 years since an Irishman won a stage of the TdF.

For all that to happen in 1 weekend is phenomenal. Just delighted altogether now for BOD and POC to get that deserved series win and hopefully it can further inspire sporting success this summer and beyond.

ThirdMan · 07-07-2013 8:05pm

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

Getting it right and winning are mutually exclusive though.
That's the crux of this whole argument and it's something a lot of people don't get.

Gatland won, he got the selection and gameplan mostly right, but that doesn't mean he's vindicated at all.

Fair enough. I stand corrected.

kevtwin · 07-07-2013 9:35pm

Teferi wrote: »

You mean the try that Sexton scored which he set up himself?

indeed!

That will be the try that Sexton picked the ball off the back of the scrum, fed himself, ran a loop around Davies, lost two attackers, fed to Halfpenny the popped up for the return.

Come on please, it doesn't matter if people want to hate Davies until the end of days for playing at 13 in a deciding test but to ignore the fact that Bowe fed Davies who beat two players then fed Halfpenny is a little strange.

Anyone Looking at the highlights and NOT noticing he had a part in that try would need some therapy. If BOD had done that, typical of the man though it might be, I'm guessing that people WOULD have spotted it.

Jonathan Davies had a very good game, he never claimed to be Brian, just did his best, which was bloody good.

Give the kid a break eh?

kevtwin · 07-07-2013 9:44pm

Chabals Beard wrote: »

Seriously looking forward to the reception the Welsh boys receive at the Aviva in the 6N.

Boo the Welsh players if you must but essentially you will be handing them motivation on top of the motivation they already have. They are very loyal to Gatland (in not at all the same way the Irish players were loyal to Kidney) and I suspect they were playing for their coach to a degree in that test.

I'm looking forward to next year in Dublin because we will be chasing a Grand Slam (again) hopefully. I'm sure Leigh Halfpenny will simply crumble if he gets booed before a kick.

bilston · 07-07-2013 9:51pm

wonderfullife wrote: »

The Lions victory really kick-started a tremendous weekend of success in British and Irish sport, and i'm sure a lot of them drew inspiration from it. And the behaviour and sheer class of BOD this week will surely inspire many for a long time.

Since that win, we've (british and irish) had:

Andy Murray win Wimbledon.

Dan Martin win a stage of Tour de France.

Graeme McDowell winning the golf.

With the exception of McDowell possibly, these events dont come by very often. It's been 77 years since a British winner of Wimbledon, 16 years since the last Lions Series win and 21 years since an Irishman won a stage of the TdF.

For all that to happen in 1 weekend is phenomenal. Just delighted altogether now for BOD and POC to get that deserved series win and hopefully it can further inspire sporting success this summer and beyond.

Yep, been a cracking weekend.

And the Ashes to come...about the only time in sport full stop where I support England!...and they do have two Irishmen in their panel in Eoin Morgan and Boyd Rankin even if they are unlikely to play in the Ashes series.

Micky Dolenz · 07-07-2013 9:54pm

kevtwin wrote: »

Boo the Welsh players if you must but essentially you will be handing them motivation on top of the motivation they already have. They are very loyal to Gatland (in not at all the same way the Irish players were loyal to Kidney) and I suspect they were playing for their coach to a degree in that test.

I'm looking forward to next year in Dublin because we will be chasing a Grand Slam (again) hopefully. I'm sure Leigh Halfpenny will simply crumble if he gets booed before a kick.

There will be no booing of any Welsh player, and certainly not Halfpenny. He has near made himself a legend of the game.

Not one poster here is against the Welsh players.

bilston · 07-07-2013 9:55pm

kevtwin wrote: »

I'm looking forward to next year in Dublin because we will be chasing a Grand Slam (again) hopefully.

It's the second game of the Championship in 2014 so probably a bit early to be thinking Grand Slams.

Do you think Patchell will get capped next season, if there is one thing the Welsh lack at the moment it's a top class 10.

Also Halfpenny is a hero, why would the Irish be booing him?

.ak · 07-07-2013 10:17pm

kevtwin wrote: »

Boo the Welsh players if you must but essentially you will be handing them motivation on top of the motivation they already have. They are very loyal to Gatland (in not at all the same way the Irish players were loyal to Kidney) and I suspect they were playing for their coach to a degree in that test.

I'm looking forward to next year in Dublin because we will be chasing a Grand Slam (again) hopefully. I'm sure Leigh Halfpenny will simply crumble if he gets booed before a kick.

Nobody mentioned booing?

Burgo · 07-07-2013 10:56pm

Politicians call for Lions coach Warren Gatland's knighthood

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-23218013

AngeGal · 07-07-2013 11:31pm

Burgo wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-23218013

Politicians engaging in populism, colour me shocked!

Ash.J.Williams · 07-07-2013 11:45pm

wales have serious momentum for next season...

Busted Flat. · 07-07-2013 11:45pm

Gatland was appointed the man to boss the lions little escapade. He achieved success in his mission, and should be thanked for his efforts and skill. The nasty comments and degrading remarks about Gatlands choices, are little short of bitch fighting, no one is entitled to his place in the team just because it his last chance. If that was the case we would have guys in zimmer frames and walking aids looking for their places in young mans sports events.

abff · 08-07-2013 12:00am

Busted Flat. wrote: »

Gatland was appointed the man to boss the lions little escapade. He achieved success in his mission, and should be thanked for his efforts and skill. The nasty comments and degrading remarks about Gatlands choices, are little short of bitch fighting, no one is entitled to his place in the team just because it his last chance. If that was the case we would have guys in zimmer frames and walking aids looking for their places in young mans sports events.

If you read through the various posts in this thread, you will find that the great majority of posts that disagreed with dropping BOD were based on how he played compared to JD in the previous tests and what he had to offer in terms of experience and big game temperament.

To suggest otherwise is insulting to BOD and to the majority of pro BOD posters on this thread.

wonderfullife · 08-07-2013 2:26am

I'll admit i was very vocal against his dropping but i did have a little chuckle/major LOL at some of the comments at the end of the game.

mainly the one where some guy said "Jeez risky move by Amy handing him the baby, has she not seen how many balls he's fumbled this tour". :pac:

Also Scott Quinnell - please man there is a line between being friendly and nauseatingly creepy and you crossed it with your man-love interview with BOD!

Judgement Day · 08-07-2013 7:56am

wonderfullife wrote: »

I'll admit i was very vocal against his dropping but i did have a little chuckle/major LOL at some of the comments at the end of the game.

mainly the one where some guy said "Jeez risky move by Amy handing him the baby, has she not seen how many balls he's fumbled this tour". :pac:

Also Scott Quinnell - please man there is a line between being friendly and nauseatingly creepy and you crossed it with your man-love interview with BOD!

Couldn't disagree with you more, I thought the interview hit just the right note.

08-07-2013 8:18am

Judgement Day wrote: »

Couldn't disagree with you more, I thought the interview hit just the right note.

until the head bumping thing at the end!

Lelantos · 08-07-2013 8:48am

I see Robbie Deans has gotten the sack. Guess we'll see Quade Cooper back soon when McKenzie gets the job.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/wallabies/australian-rugby-union-release-robbie-deans-set-to-appoint-ewen-mckenzie-as-new-wallabies-coach/story-e6frf55l-1226676107697#.UdppevmLDTo

08-07-2013 8:57am

Lelantos wrote: »

I see Robbie Deans has gotten the sack. Guess we'll see Quade Cooper back soon when McKenzie gets the job.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/wallabies/australian-rugby-union-release-robbie-deans-set-to-appoint-ewen-mckenzie-as-new-wallabies-coach/story-e6frf55l-1226676107697#.UdppevmLDTo

Yes, great to watch, probably infuriating to have as your pivot though. He can either be 9/10 or 4/10, very rarely in between!

ConFurioso · 08-07-2013 9:05am

Deleted User wrote: »

until the head bumping thing at the end!

Brian's face is priceless.

.ak · 08-07-2013 9:31am

Deleted User wrote: »

until the head bumping thing at the end!

The look on BOD face is gas. He wasn't expecting it. So cringey. Must be a forwards thing.

ConFurioso · 08-07-2013 9:39am

Actually, wait, I take it back!

The look on Scott's face is a sight to behold. It's a man crush if I ever saw one.

/Jealous

vienne86 · 08-07-2013 10:03am

Judgement Day wrote: »

Couldn't disagree with you more, I thought the interview hit just the right note.

I missed that interview with BOD - Anyone know if I could catch it anywhere?

ConFurioso · 08-07-2013 10:07am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qki-Tg_poRY

Micky Dolenz · 08-07-2013 10:13am

He even goes back for a hug once Sadie is handed back

wadacrack · 08-07-2013 10:20am

Ha the head bump was a bit weird. The whole interview was a bit odd

.ak · 08-07-2013 10:27am

wadacrack wrote: »

Ha the head bump was a bit weird. The whole interview was a bit odd

Yeah, it felt a bit like... 'Ah you got dropped, but no hard feelings, don't blame me cuz I'm Welsh! p.s: I love you.'.

Welsh Lions: Brian O'Driscoll dropped from the 23 for 3rd Test [MOD NOTE POST 1]

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