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James Gandolfini dead

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    #182
    DazMarz
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    DainBramage wrote: »
    pine barrens= best episode of the best series ever made imo

    "guy killed sixteen Czechoslovakians; used to be an interior decorator"

    "What about the Cuban Missile Crisis?! Cocksuckers moved nuclear warheads into Cuba; pointed 'em right at us!"

    "That was real?! I saw that movie. I thought it was bullshít."


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    #183
    gagiteebo
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    It's not often I'm saddened by a celebrity death but I am by this one. RIP.
    By all accounts he was a genuinely nice guy, very gracious and down to earth, funny too. 51, far too young.


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    #184
    April O Neill
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    DainBramage wrote: »
    pine barrens= best episode of the best series ever made imo

    "guy killed sixteen Czechoslovakians; used to be an interior decorator"

    "His house looked like shít!"


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    #185
    Handsome Bob
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    This is one of my favourite scenes in any medium (won't embed in case of spoilers):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdq_EfSfhrg

    Gandolfini did an absolutely amazing job, amongst all of Tony's bravado in Season 6 about being ashamed of his son (even going as far as saying he hated him), you can see the immense love he has for his son when he
    pulls AJ out of the pool (anger quickly being replaced by his fatherly love).

    I only watched the whole boxset again a few months ago but I'm might tempted to pull it out again.


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    #186
    Micky Dolenz
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    One of my favourite lines is when the crew are all sitting around in Badabing.

    I think it's Sal who asks one of the other guys:

    "Do you remember your first blow job?"

    "Yeah, of course"

    "did it take the guy long to cum?"

    Classic.


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    #187
    Benny_Cake
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    It's hard to imagine anyone else other than James Gandolfini playing Tony Soprano. Despite the heinous things he did, he could win my sympathy the following week, only to leave me feeling guilty for liking the guy. A legend and now I'm going to have to dust off the boxset again. RIP.

    Loving the Pine Barrens references, btw.


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    #188
    murpho999
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    DainBramage wrote: »
    pine barrens= best episode of the best series ever made imo

    "guy killed sixteen Czechoslovakians; used to be an interior decorator"
    April O Neill wrote: »
    "His house looked like shít!"



    RIP James Gandolfini.


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    #189
    Kylo Ren
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    So many great scenes.

    "We're with the vipers" haha.


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    #190
    Da Shins Kelly
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    The interactions between James Gandolfini and Edie Falco on The Sopranos were often my favourite parts of the entire show. Their confrontations are some of the best pieces of acting I've ever seen on television. So intense.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9oY7zpan18


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    #191
    Ilik Urgee
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    Not coming back this time,genuinely saddened at this big guy's passing.:(

    RIP T/James Gandolfini. Saw you live once on Broadway, sensational and larger than life. Everything I expected and more.


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    #192
    DazMarz
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    Da Shins Kelly wrote: »
    The interactions between James Gandolfini and Edie Falco on The Sopranos were often my favourite parts of the entire show. Their confrontations are some of the best pieces of acting I've ever seen on television. So intense.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9oY7zpan18

    Absolutely up there amongst the best scenes of the whole show... Two absolutely towering performances. Both playing their characters to the absolute limit. Both making cases and being torn apart by the other. Tony comes off a lot worse. Carmela's final barb is stinging and he has no answer.

    Brilliant.


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    #193
    April O Neill
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    Benny_Cake wrote: »
    It's hard to imagine anyone else other than James Gandolfini playing Tony Soprano.

    Ray Liotta was first choice, but turned it down. Glad that didn't happen! Nothing against Liotta, but it was better to have a relative unknown in the part. I know Gandolfini had been in a few films, but Liotta had been in one of the definitive Mafia films.


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    #194
    Birneybau
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    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    One of my favourite lines is when the crew are all sitting around in Badabing.

    I think it's Sal who asks one of the other guys:

    "Do you remember your first blow job?"

    "Yeah, of course"

    "did it take the guy long to cum?"

    Classic.

    Paulie. He then repeats the entire joke when someone else walks in.


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    #195
    Da Shins Kelly
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    DazMarz wrote: »
    Absolutely up there amongst the best scenes of the whole show... Two absolutely towering performances. Both playing their characters to the absolute limit. Both making cases and being torn apart by the other. Tony comes off a lot worse. Carmela's final barb is stinging and he has no answer.

    Brilliant.

    Carmela was the only character on the show who could say such things to Tony and live to tell the tale. Tony was a hypocrite, but so was Carmela. She hated his lifestyle, but was happy to take the money and the jewelry and all the other fine things that that lifestyle provided. Two very complex characters, played absolutely brilliantly and it all felt very authentic. The acting in The Sopranos easily surpasses anything I've seen in any other television show, including The Wire and Breaking Bad. James Gandolfini's portrayal of Tony in particular is as good as anything I've seen in films.


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    #196
    Micky Dolenz
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    Birneybau wrote: »
    Paulie. He then repeats the entire joke when someone else walks in.


    Pretty sure it was Tony who walked in. He didn't pay much heed to it as he had bigger things on his mind and probably had heard the same gag "forgive the pun" a million times before.


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    #197
    April O Neill
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    Da Shins Kelly wrote: »
    The interactions between James Gandolfini and Edie Falco on The Sopranos were often my favourite parts of the entire show.

    My favourite were between him and Janice or him and his mother. Aida Turturro and Nancy Marchand - both amazing actresses, his on-screen equals.


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    #198
    April O Neill
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    Da Shins Kelly wrote: »
    Carmela was the only character on the show who could say such things to Tony and live to tell the tale. Tony was a hypocrite, but so was Carmela.

    True but I hate when people make out she was worse than him. Anything you can throw at Carmella also applies to him, and he had a whole host of flaws on top of that!


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    #199
    rockatansky
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    One of the best scenes involving all, Christopher's Intervention. Tony's reaction to hearing that Christopher killed the dog is priceless!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_peSCECc4I

    RIP


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    #200
    Da Shins Kelly
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    April O Neill wrote: »
    True but I hate when people make out she was worse than him. Anything you can throw at Carmella also applies to him, and he had a whole host of flaws on top of that!

    I don't think she was worse than him, but in that particular scene that I linked, she calls him a hypocrite, even though the same could really be applied to her.

    Scenes with Janice were very good too. I particularly like the one when (not quite sure of the season) Tony is having dinner at her house and Janice is going through an anger management period and he persistently goes after her until she finally cracks and explodes with anger. Very tense scene. It really showed up Tony's inability to be happy for other people getting their problems under control, because he never could. He pulled similar sh*t with Christopher and his drug and alcohol problems. For me, Christopher was always my favourite character on the show and the relationship between him and Tony was always interesting. Almost a father/son relationship, but very manipulative on Tony's part. The scene where Christopher
    tells Tony that Adriana is an FBI informant
    was one of the most compelling moments in the show. Tony comes through like a father figure, while Christopher is completely helpless.

    The quality of the acting on the show was so good that it's hard to single out one person. I mean, there was all those scenes in season 5 too between Tony and Adriana that were bubbling over with sexual tension.


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    #201
    Micky Dolenz
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    The thing I loved about the show, was I disliked every character. They were scum of the earth. They speak of family and honour when all it boiled down to was greed, money and distrust. It really showed the breakdown of the traditional Mafia and the great lengths the law authorities went about to achieve it.

    Compelling viewing.


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    #202
    Aidric
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    Rightly or wrongly most celebrity deaths wash over me but this one has hit me more as the day moves on.

    When you invest so much in to a series as great as 'The Sopranos', there is a great sense of loss when the central character is no longer with us. We are so awash with celebrity nonsense and paperweight celebrities these days that sometimes we are guilty of grouping them all in the one bracket.

    James Gandolfini is however without equal in the history of television. 'The Sopranos' remains without equal in the history of television. It has set the standard by which all television series should be measured.


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    #203
    Aidric
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    For anybody who might not have read this, there was a good critique of the show in today's Telegraph by Clive James.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/10132678/Clive-James-on-The-Sopranos.html


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    #204
    du Maurier
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    Time and again, after multiple series views this scene always gets me. Despite all the degeneracy, greed, intemperance and violence along the way, the softer moments sets the balance back in the show.. "I mean, don't you love me?".

    (not sure if this has been posted already)



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KIHhwM1j9w


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    #205
    Lithium93_
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    Sky Atlantic are doing a mini marathon of The Soprano's tomorrow night from 21:00 til 00:55, that's my Friday night television viewing sorted, albeit with a heavy heart


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    #206
    scamalert
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    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    The thing I loved about the show, was I disliked every character. They were scum of the earth. They speak of family and honour when all it boiled down to was greed, money and distrust. It really showed the breakdown of the traditional Mafia and the great lengths the law authorities went about to achieve it.

    Compelling viewing.
    If you think about that every movie/show has same characteristics-greed being scum,survival of the fittest ,only this show had more personalized characters each with their own strengths and weaknesses,ex Polie was a loner and despite his age he was portrayed as old school tough guy who maintained his body,while Chris was a drug addict and so on.that's what made it so popular that besides their criminal life each character had its own troubles and good moments.
    And for me one of the better moments was where his psychiatrist got raped,and after she seen guy in local store,and in next session with tony she almost broke down crying and all,as she knew that he would tear guy apart,to many great moments to put them all down.


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    #207
    Dyr
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    Da Shins Kelly wrote: »
    Carmela was the only character on the show who could say such things to Tony and live to tell the tale. Tony was a hypocrite, but so was Carmela. She hated his lifestyle, but was happy to take the money and the jewelry and all the other fine things that that lifestyle provided. Two very complex characters, played absolutely brilliantly and it all felt very authentic. The acting in The Sopranos easily surpasses anything I've seen in any other television show, including The Wire and Breaking Bad. James Gandolfini's portrayal of Tony in particular is as good as anything I've seen in films.

    They weren't really complex though, they were both contradictory. Neither of them wanted to deal with the consequences of their lifestyle while still reaping the benefits.


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    #208
    Kace
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    rockatansky wrote: »
    One of the best scenes involving all, Christopher's Intervention. Tony's reaction to hearing that Christopher killed the dog is priceless!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_peSCECc4I

    RIP

    Interesting that during this scene Christopher starts giving out to Tony about his condition and says that he'll probably have a heart attack before he's 50.

    He was right and only off the mark by 1 year !!!

    RIP


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    #209
    Da Shins Kelly
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    Bambi wrote: »
    They weren't really complex though, they were both contradictory. Neither of them wanted to deal with the consequences of their lifestyle while still reaping the benefits.

    I would have thought that contradiction was a hallmark of complex characterization. Most people are walking contradictions and hypocritical in more ways than they'd like to admit. It's part of the complexity of human nature. The Sopranos captured that very well.

    As far as disliking the characters, I found myself hating them more than I loved them, but there were moments where I really felt very endeared by them, and even sympathetic towards them. Tony's love of animals, Christopher's repressed desire to get out of the Mafia world and his emotional manipulation at the hands of Tony, Junior slowly losing his mind, Carmela's devastation over Tony's cheating, Tony B trying to stay out of the business and slowly getting sucked back in. It's very good writing to be able to create characters that are repulsive in so many ways, but also pretty relateable in a lot of ways too.


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    #210
    trashcan
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    Genuinely shocked by this. Surprised to hear he was only 51 as well. Would have thought he was a good few years older than that. Terrific in the Sopranos but also did enough good work elsewhere to be remembered as a one part wonder.


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    #211
    PropJoe10
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    Da Shins Kelly wrote: »
    The interactions between James Gandolfini and Edie Falco on The Sopranos were often my favourite parts of the entire show. Their confrontations are some of the best pieces of acting I've ever seen on television. So intense.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9oY7zpan18

    Without a doubt one of the finest scenes in TV history, when it comes to pure acting ability and chemistry on-screen. Superb.


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