What is the most politically correct thing you have heard?

Padkir

Cydoniac wrote: »

This thread is slowly descending into the 'how racist/sexist can I be and get away with it' thread. Whatever about some ridiculous PC terms, people just use it as an excuse to say whatever the hell they like without consequence.

I know I haven't read the rest of the thread at this point but this is a ridiculous statement.

Nothing said in the posts so far has been in any way racist.

Hoop66

Padkir wrote: »

I know I haven't read the rest of the thread at this point but this is a ridiculous statement.

Nothing said in the posts so far has been in any way racist.

How do you know that "Nothing said in the posts so far has been in any way racist", if "I haven't read the rest of the thread at this point"?

FTA69

If ye think it's bad in Ireland ye should see some of the nonsense that they come out with over here. I work for a trade union and some of the stuff we're expected to say/not say is laughable. Especially when the Equalities Department are around.

1) "Brainstorming". People said earlier that this term being considered taboo is a myth. It isn't. I was told at a strategy meeting that it was unacceptable.

2) "Blacklisting". There is huge controversy over here at the moment with the publicising of a blacklisting campaign by construction companies on the Crossrail project. I was told in my office last month that I couldn't use the term as it had racist connotations. Despite the word being on countless union publications.

3) "Nitty Gritty" is apparently unacceptable due to it being a reference to mass rape on the slave ships.

4) "Picnic" was declared racist as it was a reference to "pick a n*gger" from the lynching days in the US. I had to challenge this one; internet on phone told me it was from the French "picque nique" and no cause for hysteria.

5) During an equality seminar the woman delivering it was going on about different forms of prejudice and clothing was one. She cited hoodies, turbans and balaclavas as an example. I had to point out that in most countries someone walking into a business with a balaclava on is usually an ominous sign.

6) "Positive discrimination" is apparently unacceptable because it's not right to tar affirmative action with any sort of negative connotations. I argued that while it may be necessary to even out society it does discriminate against individuals at times. That was shot down. "Affirmative action" is the preferred term apparently.

7) "Mixed race" is being phased out and the new term being used in many official bodies (e.g. the Police) is "dual heritage".

It's hilarious like. And despite being of far-left politics and pretty liberal socially I'm often made to feel like a racist maniac for arguing with people over this stupid bloody terminology.

Padkir

Hoop66 wrote: »

How do you know that "Nothing said in the posts so far has been in any way racist", if "I haven't read the rest of the thread at this point"?

"So far" insinuated that as far as I had read, nothing racist was said. For the record, I have since finished it and still nothing racist was said.

Maybe you want me to go back and edit my previous statement, based on a problem you have with how it was written? I feel like Enid Blyton... :P

Czarcasm

FTA69 wrote: »

If ye think it's bad in Ireland ye should see some of the nonsense that they come out with over here. I work for a trade union and some of the stuff we're expected to say/not say is laughable. Especially when the Equalities Department are around.

1) "Brainstorming". People said earlier that this term being considered taboo is a myth. It isn't. I was told at a strategy meeting that it was unacceptable.

2) "Blacklisting". There is huge controversy over here at the moment with the publicising of a blacklisting campaign by construction companies on the Crossrail project. I was told in my office last month that I couldn't use the term as it had racist connotations. Despite the word being on countless union publications.

3) "Nitty Gritty" is apparently unacceptable due to it being a reference to mass rape on the slave ships.

4) "Picnic" was declared racist as it was a reference to "pick a n*gger" from the lynching days in the US. I had to challenge this one; internet on phone told me it was from the French "picque nique" and no cause for hysteria.

5) During an equality seminar the woman delivering it was going on about different forms of prejudice and clothing was one. She cited hoodies, turbans and balaclavas as an example. I had to point out that in most countries someone walking into a business with a balaclava on is usually an ominous sign.

6) "Positive discrimination" is apparently unacceptable because it's not right to tar affirmative action with any sort of negative connotations. I argued that while it may be necessary to even out society it does discriminate against individuals at times. That was shot down. "Affirmative action" is the preferred term apparently.

7) "Mixed race" is being phased out and the new term being used in many official bodies (e.g. the Police) is "dual heritage".

It's hilarious like. And despite being of far-left politics and pretty liberal socially I'm often made to feel like a racist maniac for arguing with people over this stupid bloody terminology.

I shook my head in disbelief at a few of those, no, I don't doubt they're true, they're just ridiculous, but number 7, Jesus, while I never liked the term "half cast", a person's heritage is more than just about their race. Mixed race is an accurate description and not in my mind any way offensive. I'd consider it far more offensive, not to mention more long winded and inaccurate to refer to anybody as "dual heritage". What would you call their grandson- "octuplet heritage", seeing as it is also "offensive" to refer to a person's nationality?

Laughable, except it's not actually a laughing matter.

FTA69

Honestly. My house was broken into last month and the cops lifted a print belonging to a suspect. They rang me and asked did I know a certain woman with an Irish surname who was "dual heritage"?

Czarcasm

FTA69 wrote: »

Honestly. My house was broken into last month and the cops lifted a print belonging to a suspect. They rang me and asked did I know a certain woman with an Irish surname who was "dual heritage"?

If you hadn't said the suspect was female, I would've thought it was Blackie Connors, the traveller who appeared in a soap called Glenroe a few years back, but he's up to his eyeballs these days with playing a property developer in Fair City, involved in a ménage à trois with his siblings partner (or to make it easier- he's balls deep in his brothers wife!).

Expect them to announce they're pregnant any day now, all three of them, as is usually the way soaps go! :pac:

wonderfulname

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

Apparently its supposed to be a form of the word women that doesn't stem from man.

The irony being that the word man stems from woman, and not the other way around.

Lingua Franca

Gosub wrote: »

I know this will come across wrong, but here goes.

If they are so religious surely they wouldn't be in prison in the first place. Unless there is a rule built into some religions allowing theft, violence, etc. Or do they only use the bits of their religion that suit them?

Because they often 'find god' in prison, I suspect mostly out of boredom. One of my friends taught in a prison in England and told me that many of the guys in there, of any origin, will become religious or pretend to become religious to fit into a clique and get special privileges.

bus_driver

any reference to racism when discussing negative stories - charechterisations of travellers

you might aswell point to racism when discussing fisherman or farmers in a negative light

laoch na mona

bus_driver wrote: »

any reference to racism when discussing negative stories - charechterisations of travellers

you might aswell point to racism when discussing fisherman or farmers in a negative light

if you said all fishermen are criminals then i'd pull on being a bigot so anti-bigotry pisses you off?

SeanW

laoch na mona wrote: »

if you said all fishermen are criminals then i'd pull on being a bigot so anti-bigotry pisses you off?

Did anyone say that all travellers were criminals?

oppenheimer1

The King of Moo wrote: »

That’s what I was afraid you meant. It genuinely is political correctness gone mad.

Political correctness gone mad is in fact a non-pc term as it is disablist according to this woman in the video:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/7643175.stm

Luxie

1ZRed wrote: »

When they change nigger to tiger in eenie meenie miney moe. It's not the same

Innocent days. I used pronounce ****** as knicker. No clue I was being a racist even

Luxie

Duggy747 wrote: »

50 odd years later, somebody decided that Tom & Jerry cartoons were harmful to children and needed to be edited.

This was one of the things they removed (Ignore the title):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCVFunCi0o8

Feck that next time I'm bored I'm youtubing Tom & Jerry cartoons!

Luxie

vitani wrote: »

Oh dear. I thought 'comfort break' was ridiculous when I first heard it - actually, I still do - but 'bio break'?

Try being told to 'reach out' to someone rather than phone or email the gobsbytes

Scruffles

Seachmall wrote: »

Because it is the medical term and was used in medicine before it became offensive. We shouldn't expect the sciences to alter the terminology just because some people have a stick up their arse.

I remember my leaving cert biology teacher having to explain that "Retarded" and "Mongoloid" were medical terms and hence used in the book and her class. In particular I remember the look of contempt on her face at the thought of needing to preface her class with a disclaimer.


Edit - References to Mongoloids to describe Down Syndrome had apparently been dropped in 1965. Meh.

it isnt the medical term anymore it was only the medical term in america and its DSM manual; they unoficialy replaced using the term with intelectual disability a while back in america because of how it affects us,and this month the new DSM officialy replaced it with ID-they have known for a long time how outdated,wrong and damaging it was to those of us who come under the label.
-the fact people still think its a supported medical label yet continue to use it as a slur to compare it to something stupid shows people have got full insight as to why they have picked that word.

medical labels move on as understanding in conditions improve which is what has happened with ours,people have not got a clue on the level of bullying and abuse we recieve around this term.

now for a moment just ignore the PC people who blindly say retard is offensive and to stop using it; for a moment- they havent got a clue what theyre saying it for theyre just saying it because its become like programming;like every other word that is seen as offensive-that is not what those of us with 'sticks up our arses' on this term want.

try seeing it from our view and other people who do know the feeling of it first hand instead instead,one of the best places for that woud be the special olympics -spread the word to end the word campaign;
http://www.r-word.org/

#we are not mentaly retarded [slow],it is a global processing impairment which significantly affects our functioning however we all have strengths.

#the term has deep hateful subhumanizing connotations going back many years;societys attitudes and use of it continues to opress us with feck all respect,dehumanization,being refered to as burdens on society,being treated as thick and slow,being treated exactly like babies/toddlers....
thankfuly in the UK if we are recognised under intelectual disability we are labeled LD,but retardation/retard came over here as a disablist slur in the mid nineties with south park and am regulary thrown it online and by randomers in the rare chance that get to go out in the wheelchair with staff.

people who think those of us who want others to see the pains that useage of the word causes is political correctness have likely not had lifelong and current verbal and written abuse and bullying due to a major part of their life they cannot help,they also have probably got the coping skills to be able to block those out and deal with it,except we cant-we dont have that ability.
using slurs against a group who can speak up about how it affects them and deal with it is one thing,but using what is a degrading slur and indirectly affects us when its aimed at a mate/whoever towards a group of whom everyone cannot defend themselves on the same level is a different beast altogether.

if anyone wants to chat more about the effects of using disability slurs and are over here for a trip then feel free for a meet up,am a autism and LD activist under social services LD team·...sorry for length have had night tablets.

fasttalkerchat

wonderfulname wrote: »

The irony being that the word man stems from woman, and not the other way around.

How? man originally meant human in general and later woman was used to mean exclusively female humans.

wonderfulname

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

How? man originally meant human in general and later woman was used to mean exclusively female humans.

This is correct, mann was neutral, an early version of woman was female and wer (i believe) was male, it's the words we use for men that have changed to something more standard, not women. Apologies for lack of links but I'm on mobile and that's just too much effort. Were I to busy myself modifying English politically I would emphasise the neutrality of the word man, not pretend it's some patriarchal invention to stick dicks centre stage.

jockeyboard

gramar wrote: »

there goes midwife so....midperson? Human baby extractor?

Midwife actually means 'with woman' so a male midwife is called a midwife...

csallmighty

Gingerbread person

bietag

Scruffles wrote: »

it isnt the medical term anymore it was only the medical term in america and its DSM manual; they unoficialy replaced using the term with intelectual disability a while back in america because of how it affects us,and this month the new DSM officialy replaced it with ID-they have known for a long time how outdated,wrong and damaging it was to those of us who come under the label.
-the fact people still think its a supported medical label yet continue to use it as a slur to compare it to something stupid shows people have got full insight as to why they have picked that word.

medical labels move on as understanding in conditions improve which is what has happened with ours,people have not got a clue on the level of bullying and abuse we recieve around this term.

now for a moment just ignore the PC people who blindly say retard is offensive and to stop using it; for a moment- they havent got a clue what theyre saying it for theyre just saying it because its become like programming;like every other word that is seen as offensive-that is not what those of us with 'sticks up our arses' on this term want.

try seeing it from our view and other people who do know the feeling of it first hand instead instead,one of the best places for that woud be the special olympics -spread the word to end the word campaign;
http://www.r-word.org/

#we are not mentaly retarded [slow],it is a global processing impairment which significantly affects our functioning however we all have strengths.

#the term has deep hateful subhumanizing connotations going back many years;societys attitudes and use of it continues to opress us with feck all respect,dehumanization,being refered to as burdens on society,being treated as thick and slow,being treated exactly like babies/toddlers....
thankfuly in the UK if we are recognised under intelectual disability we are labeled LD,but retardation/retard came over here as a disablist slur in the mid nineties with south park and am regulary thrown it online and by randomers in the rare chance that get to go out in the wheelchair with staff.

people who think those of us who want others to see the pains that useage of the word causes is political correctness have likely not had lifelong and current verbal and written abuse and bullying due to a major part of their life they cannot help,they also have probably got the coping skills to be able to block those out and deal with it,except we cant-we dont have that ability.
using slurs against a group who can speak up about how it affects them and deal with it is one thing,but using what is a degrading slur and indirectly affects us when its aimed at a mate/whoever towards a group of whom everyone cannot defend themselves on the same level is a different beast altogether.

if anyone wants to chat more about the effects of using disability slurs and are over here for a trip then feel free for a meet up,am a autism and LD activist under social services LD team·...sorry for length have had night tablets.

This is why people find political correctness so annoying. It's the whole perverse eagerness to be offended. You seem to be implying in parts of your post that you suffer from Downs Syndrome, which you certainly do not (a person with Downs Syndrome, formerly known as "Mongoloids", wouldn't be able to have written your post). You're mixing apples and oranges here, probably due to being overeager to claim offense and or membership in a 'disadvantaged class'. I've noticed there a growing number of left leaning types who, having no plausible claim to supposed victimhood based on ethnicity, make some pretty desperate reaches; attempts to get people to think of autistic people as something akin to being "an oppressed person of color" being a common one for some reason (often by people with no compelling evidence they have ever been diagnosed as autistic).

Comparing having a learning disability or autism to having Downs Syndrome is - well - retarded. Someone who taunts or disparages someone with autism or a learning disability as "regarded" is being a jerk of course, but this is not the reason the PC police object to the term. They make the more absurd term that the term "retarded" is a insulting term for someone who actually is 'retarded' (i.e. has an IQ much lower than normal).

The irony here of course is that the term "retarded" was in fact originally conceived of as a kinder gentler term for people with really, really low IQs. What ever term we choose to call people with really really low IQs will eventually have the same stigma because all you're doing is changing the name. I already here "mentally challenged" being used as a casual insult or people that say or do something retarded.:rolleyes:

Aglomerado

Luxie wrote: »

Try being told to 'reach out' to someone rather than phone or email the gobsbytes

Yuck. The only time anyone's getting me to "reach out" is if I'm going to strangle them!!! :mad:

Shenshen

FTA69 wrote: »

7) "Mixed race" is being phased out and the new term being used in many official bodies (e.g. the Police) is "dual heritage".

It's hilarious like. And despite being of far-left politics and pretty liberal socially I'm often made to feel like a racist maniac for arguing with people over this stupid bloody terminology.

This last point seriously made me laugh... what about those with more than two heritages??

It would seem to me that in the US (I assume that's where you are?), the syllable "ni-" seems to be enough to cause offence at this point.

bietag

I saw an article in the Guardian that described Melanie Griffith and Antonio Banderas as an "interracial couple". Moreover, the reporter's tone was curiously smug and self congratulatory (Griffith and Banderas were cited as evidence of a growing trend of interracial marriage that is "challenging" racism etc.).

How is a marriage between a white Spaniard and an Irish woman from the US "interracial"? I can only surmise the reporter regards Banderas as a (get ready to genuflect) "person of color"? I guess the Conquistadors didn't get that memo.

It seems to me that someone who considers Griffith and Banderas to be different races is themselves pretty darn racist; sounds like whoever this writer is has a view of race indistinguishable from Norodicism, yet imagines themself an enlightened soul lecturing the unwashed masses. This is part of why political correctness is so maddening; it's practitioners are usually more guilty of racist attitudes than those they seek to 'enlighten'.

Czarcasm

bietag wrote: »

This is why people find political correctness so annoying. It's the whole perverse eagerness to be offended. You seem to be implying in parts of your post that you suffer from Downs Syndrome, which you certainly do not (a person with Downs Syndrome, formerly known as "Mongoloids", wouldn't be able to have written your post). You're mixing apples and oranges here, probably due to being overeager to claim offense and or membership in a 'disadvantaged class'. I've noticed there a growing number of left leaning types who, having no plausible claim to supposed victimhood based on ethnicity, make some pretty desperate reaches; attempts to get people to think of autistic people as something akin to being "an oppressed person of color" being a common one for some reason (often by people with no compelling evidence they have ever been diagnosed as autistic).

Comparing having a learning disability or autism to having Downs Syndrome is - well - retarded. Someone who taunts or disparages someone with autism or a learning disability as "regarded" is being a jerk of course, but this is not the reason the PC police object to the term. They make the more absurd term that the term "retarded" is a insulting term for someone who actually is 'retarded' (i.e. has an IQ much lower than normal).

The irony here of course is that the term "retarded" was in fact originally conceived of as a kinder gentler term for people with really, really low IQs. What ever term we choose to call people with really really low IQs will eventually have the same stigma because all you're doing is changing the name. I already here "mentally challenged" being used as a casual insult or people that say or do something retarded.:rolleyes:

I commend you on being able to pack such an amount of gross misinformation and irony into one single post. Well done. I didn't think it was possible, but in your eagerness to demonstrate your intellectual prowess, you have done nothing but displayed a shocking level of ignorance in your post.


Irony indeed.

bietag

Czarcasm wrote: »

I commend you on being able to pack such an amount of gross misinformation and irony into one single post. Well done. I didn't think it was possible, but in your eagerness to demonstrate your intellectual prowess, you have done nothing but displayed a shocking level of ignorance in your post.


Irony indeed.

The "here" replacements for "hear" are courtesy of the retarded iPad autocorrect.

You sense an "eagerness to display intellectual prowess"? Weird. You must be, well, retarded. Or a Mongoloid.

rovoagho

Aglomerado wrote: »

Yuck. The only time anyone's getting me to "reach out" is if I'm going to strangle them!!! :mad:

Report them to HR for telling you to give a customer / vendor a reach-around. They'll stop using it pretty sharpish.

Czarcasm

bietag wrote: »

The "here" replacements for "hear" are courtesy of the retarded iPad autocorrect.

You sense an "eagerness to display intellectual prowess"? Weird. You must be, well, retarded. Or a Mongoloid.

Bad carpenter blames his tools.

As for the rest of your píss poor attempt at getting a rise, it's a pretty damning display of the mental intellect of those who choose to use such terminology. You could have at least used the opportunity to come up with something original.


Genius.

bietag

Czarcasm wrote: »

Bad carpenter blames his tools.

As for the rest of your píss poor attempt at getting a rise, it's a pretty damning display of the mental intellect of those who choose to use such terminology. You could have at least used the opportunity to come up with something original.


Genius.

Oh, me thinks ye doth protest too much! I'd say my "piss poor attempt at getting a rise " seems to have been pretty effective on you, lol.

Quit while you can still delude yourself that you're ahead here, Skippy.