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Study of Radicalisation - 26 Irish Jihadis Fought in Syria

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Where can I find moderate muslims that dont hate homosexuals, that dont hate the west, that dont hate non believers, that are tolerant of other religions....


    Where in Ireland can I find such muslims. Not in clongriffin, cause I looked.

    I wonder, what it must be like, as a normal person, minding their own business, heading off to prayers and afterwards get the shopping in/return to work, pick up the kids from school... whatever - and then some nutcase comes up to you and starts harrassing you about gays/the west/other faiths and so on. :rolleyes:

    My ex's sister is Muslim, she doesn't wear a veil and is as quiet and "normal" as can be. The lads and lasses I used to work and socialise with would laugh at your demonisation of them.

    Such hatred.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 713 ✭✭✭WayneMolloy


    Perhaps you should have taken your obvious blinkers off first and looked a little harder.
    My accountant is Muslim, he doesn't hate non believers, doesn't hate the west, and like my most business associates we dont discuss sexual preferences as we don't need to.
    My niece converted to Islam, neither she nor her husband and his family certainly dont hate the west, get on very well with us "non-believers" in the family and friend circle including those gay members of it!
    The only extremism she encounters is being called names, assaulted, and spat on by right wing thugs.

    A western woman converting to Islam is like a turkey voting for Christmas. Why the f*ck did you not intervene? She would thank you for it in the future.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 713 ✭✭✭WayneMolloy


    Other than Roman Catholicism!

    Tut, tut. How intolerant. Christianity is fair game but if you slate the islamic cult - you are a racist.

    Never change, lefties. Fish in a barrel.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 862 ✭✭✭Grand Moff Tarkin


    Tut, tut. How intolerant. Christianity is fair game but if you slate the islamic cult - you are a racist.

    Never change, lefties. Fish in a barrel.
    All religions are cults of one form or another and i would trust any of them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 713 ✭✭✭WayneMolloy


    All religions are cults of one form or another and i would trust any of them.

    I agree. But if you slate Christianity - you are hip and cool. Slate Islam - and you are a waaycis. Liberals and their double standards.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    A western woman converting to Islam is like a turkey voting for Christmas. Why the f*ck did you not intervene? She would thank you for it in the future.

    Apart from the racist, mysogonistic, insulting and inflammatory nature of your reply, which disgusts me, why would I intervene? My niece is an intlligent, beautiful and happily married young woman with a beautiful daughter, loving husband and supportive extended family.
    The only protection she needs is from the likes of you.:mad:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 713 ✭✭✭WayneMolloy


    Apart from the racist

    Islam is not a race.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    I agree. But if you slate Christianity - you are hip and cool. Slate Islam - and you are a waaycis. Liberals and their double standards.


    Whats gone on in this thread is far from valid criticism. Fear mongering, hysterical shite.

    You still haven't explained your 'field research' of the attendees of a mosque that has yet to be built.

    Have you found any proof that any have come back and spread "militant Islam" as you claimed?


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,068 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Islam is not a race.

    It kind of is tbh... people have a very narrow view on what the word 'race' means for some reason...
    Race is a classification system used to categorize humans into large and distinct populations or groups by anatomical, cultural, ethnic, genetic, geographical, historical, linguistic, religious, or social affiliation.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 713 ✭✭✭WayneMolloy


    It kind of is tbh... people have a very narrow view on what the word 'race' means for some reason...

    Under that description, South Dubliners would probably qualify as a race.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,068 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Under that description, South Dubliners would probably qualify as a race.

    Especially if they're being discriminated against for being South Dubliners!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 713 ✭✭✭WayneMolloy


    Especially if they're being discriminated against for being South Dubliners!

    Paul Howard never leaves them alone.:(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Islam is not a race.

    Ah, the get out of jail free card.

    Your derogatory, hysterical and inflammatory comments about Muslims might as well be akin to racism.

    You are the one who needs intervention & round the clock supervision to wean you off your hatreds.

    I hope you get arrested next time you hang outside a place of worship, harrassing innocent people.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 713 ✭✭✭WayneMolloy


    old hippy wrote: »

    You are the one who needs intervention & round the clock supervision to wean you off your hatreds.

    Re-education camp!?

    Not wanting this cult spreading in my country does not equate with hatred, buddy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    Re-education camp!?

    Not wanting this cult spreading in my country does not equate with hatred, buddy.

    Not too many fanboys running with you now Wayne.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Re-education camp!?

    Not wanting this cult spreading in my country does not equate with hatred, buddy.


    More bluster wayne. Why not answer some questions on what you've spouted so far?

    You still haven't explained your 'field research' of the attendees of a mosque that has yet to be built.

    Have you found any proof that any have come back and spread "militant Islam" as you claimed?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 713 ✭✭✭WayneMolloy


    mattjack wrote: »
    Not too many fanboys running with you now Wayne.

    What are you on about? Fanboys?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    What are you on about? Fanboys?

    None of your cohorts left .


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 713 ✭✭✭WayneMolloy


    mattjack wrote: »
    None of your cohorts left .

    They all emigrated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭returnNull


    Nodin wrote: »
    You still haven't explained your 'field research' of the attendees of a mosque that has yet to be built.

    Have you found any proof that any have come back and spread "militant Islam" as you claimed?

    I think he's ignoring you Nodin


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    Nodin wrote: »
    More bluster wayne. Why not answer some questions on what you've spouted so far?

    You still haven't explained your 'field research' of the attendees of a mosque that has yet to be built.

    Have you found any proof that any have come back and spread "militant Islam" as you claimed?

    Was it yourself Nodin with parent born abroad ?

    Never mentioned my own or the OH's , Scottish Protestant and English Grandparents and herself, Eastern European Jewish descent on one side and African on the other side.
    Hows that for a multicultural family ?.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Gyalist



    The Irish, as Europeans, have been involved in most wars that involved Europeans. We have never really got involved in arab or african civil wars. Up until now. And we never really brought warped, backward and intolerant ideologies - such as militant islam, back home with us. Up until now.

    The guys who were caught exporting their "missile technology" to the FARC in Colombia were really just there for the eco-tourism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    mattjack wrote: »
    Was it yourself Nodin with parent born abroad ?

    Never mentioned my own or the OH's , Scottish Protestant and English Grandparents and herself, Eastern European Jewish descent on one side and African on the other side.
    Hows that for a multicultural family ?.


    Mine were from alien cultures in Donegal and Galway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    Nodin wrote: »
    Mine were from alien cultures in Donegal and Galway.

    Just once they satisfy the HRC they can stay .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    mattjack wrote: »
    Just once they satisfy the HRC they can stay .


    They seem to have integrated. Both think it doesn't rain enough here, but apart from that they seem happy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 713 ✭✭✭WayneMolloy


    returnNull wrote: »
    I think he's ignoring you Nodin

    He is on ignore. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    mattjack wrote: »
    Just once they satisfy the HRC they can stay .


    Do us a favour, oul flower, and c&p me questions so wayne there can read them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,789 ✭✭✭SeanW


    Nodin wrote: »
    Have you found any proof that any have come back and spread "militant Islam" as you claimed?
    Why do you ask? I very much get the feeling that if he did (have proof) you wouldn't care. So why even bother to ask?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Gyalist


    Lot of people mentioning the Spanish Civil War.
    It was illegal under Irish law for Irish citizens to partake in the Spanish Civil War under the Non-Intervention Act of 1937.
    As far as I know that law has not been revoked, yet returning Irish Jihadis are not being arrested.
    They're invited onto the Late Late Show for a soft soap interview like they're Medicine Sans Fronteres ffs.
    These people are engaged in a blatant sectarian conflict in Syria against Allawites, moderate Sunnis, Druze, Christians, and none of the above.

    Will the Irish citizens who have served in the Israeli Defence Force be arrested too, or is this fate only reserved for "jihadis".


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    Wayne , Wayne ... look at these questions from that fcuker Nodin , look he wants you , you of all people to answer questions , 'magine that Wayne , Wayne you there ?

    Nodin wrote: »
    More bluster wayne. Why not answer some questions on what you've spouted so far?

    You still haven't explained your 'field research' of the attendees of a mosque that has yet to be built.

    Have you found any proof that any have come back and spread "militant Islam" as you claimed?


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