New "anti-gay" commercial

unseenfootage

Sinfonia wrote: »

Why?

Procreation is part of our natural inclination. We do it for the continuation of human life. It is therefore inevitable to be against anything that is seen as a threat to this norm.

squod

Hilly Bill wrote: »

There are plenty of well rounded people raised by a mother and father as well. Why leave that out of your post? Do you know for sure that every child raised by gays have grown up happy and havent turned out as psychos, social misfits and addicts? Maybe those sewage workers should start with your post.

Pesronally i see nothing wrong in the ad. I cant see it being anti-gay. There is too much being read into it by those that seem to be offended by it.

Shhhhhhhhhh. Being right on is what's important.

Gay ✓
Religious x

Daith

unseenfootage wrote: »

Procreation is part of our natural inclination. We do it for the continuation of human life. It is therefore inevitable to be against anything that is seen as a threat to this norm.

Why would two gay people getting married make anyone else feel threatened?

Nodin

unseenfootage wrote: »

Procreation is part of our natural inclination. We do it for the continuation of human life. It is therefore inevitable to be against anything that is seen as a threat to this norm.

....do us a favour there and tell me how somebody gay marrying stops you (or anyone else so inclined) procreating.

Laneyh

What a load of patronising drivel.

unseenfootage

Nodin wrote: »

....do us a favour there and tell me how somebody gay marrying stops you (or anyone else so inclined) procreating.

If my only son or daughter was homosexual then that's the end of the line for my genes, I guess. On the family level, it is counterproductive.

hoodwinked

unseenfootage wrote: »

Procreation is part of our natural inclination. We do it for the continuation of human life. It is therefore inevitable to be against anything that is seen as a threat to this norm.

but why be against something that is a threat to the norm?


the norm has changed so much in recent years,

it used be the norm that every child would be at mass every sunday/religious holiday,

it used be the norm that single mothers were shunned,

it used be the norm that women would quit work and stay at home minding the children,

it used be the norm that women weren't allowed vote,


we constantly change the norm, why be against those changes now?

DarkJager

The people behind that commercial should be sterilised before they breed any equally retarded ****wits in to this world.

Nodin

unseenfootage wrote: »

If my only son or daughter was homosexual then that's the end of the line for my genes, I guess. On the family level, it is counterproductive.

.....given that they're going to be gay irrespective of whether gay marriage is legal or not, I'm not seeing the relevance....

cometogether

unseenfootage wrote: »

If my only son or daughter was homosexual then that's the end of the line for my genes, I guess. On the family level, it is counterproductive.

Yeah but its not as if not being able to marry will turn them heterosexual!

cartell_best

Something that has stayed with me and that will probably stay with me to the day I die, is the following from a film (Philadelphia):

"In this courtroom, Mr Miller, justice is blind to matters of race, creed, colour, religion, and sexual orientation.

Joe Miller: With all due respect, your honour, we don't live in this courtroom, do we?"

5uspect

unseenfootage wrote: »

If my only son or daughter was homosexual then that's the end of the line for my genes, I guess. On the family level, it is counterproductive.

Nevermind if they're gay, what if they use contraception?

Daith

unseenfootage wrote: »

If my only son or daughter was homosexual then that's the end of the line for my genes, I guess. On the family level, it is counterproductive.

If your son or daughter was infertile and had to adopt it would be the same thing. If the continuation of your genes was that important it would be counterproductive to have one child anyway.

Again it's nothing to do with two other people getting married.

hoodwinked

unseenfootage wrote: »

If my only son or daughter was homosexual then that's the end of the line for my genes, I guess. On the family level, it is counterproductive.

if your daughter is a homosexual she can still choose to have a child via sperm donation...etc

a homosexual son can still find a surrogate, or a partner with a child already, (and if this is the case how would you feel if after living with his partner and child for 12 years when his partner should die and your son would lose custody of his child as he is not a guardian due to not being married to his partner)

many hetrosexual only children decide not to have children (or cannot have children)

unseenfootage

5uspect wrote: »

Nevermind if they're gay, what if the use contraception?

I'm not against contraception but of course parents encourage their children at a young age to start families.

Daith wrote: »

If your son or daughter was infertile and had to adopt it would be the same thing.

I am not so sure if it is.

Fr_Dougal

I think gay people should be allowed in Ireland, so I do.

Daith

unseenfootage wrote: »

I am not so sure if it is.

Why not?

cometogether

[QUOTE=unseenfootage;82434032I am not so sure if it is.[/QUOTE]

Yes, it is! Both are due to circumstances that cannot be helped by the person, where is the difference?

5uspect

unseenfootage wrote: »

I'm not against contraception but of course parents encourage their children at a young age to start families.

Do they? Fewer and fewer in the developed world are having children.

mikemac1

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

I think gay people should be allowed in Ireland, so I do.

To hell or to Connaught!

jaffacakesyum

unseenfootage wrote: »

I'm not against contraception but of course parents encourage their children at a young age to start families.



I am not so sure if it is.

Im 21 and have not been encouraged yet. Your sons/daughters dont 'owe' you grandchildren. I dont get why people have such high opinions of themselves and their genes that carrying on the family line is absolutely necessary.

How is being infertile, or simply being straight and not wanting children or simply adopting any different to your son/daughter being gay and not able to recreate?

unseenfootage

hoodwinked wrote: »

if your daughter is a homosexual she can still choose to have a child via sperm donation...etc

Every child has the right to know their father.

hoodwinked wrote: »

.....
a homosexual son can still find a surrogate,

and his mother.

hoodwinked wrote: »

(and if this is the case how would you feel if after living with his partner and child for 12 years when his partner should die and your son would lose custody of his child as he is not a guardian due to not being married to his partner)

no idea, what you are trying to say...

krudler

unseenfootage wrote: »

Procreation is part of our natural inclination. We do it for the continuation of human life. It is therefore inevitable to be against anything that is seen as a threat to this norm.

Because once gay marriage is legal straight people will start turning gay?

Gay people are around like, now, I've seen some and everything. If they can marry then that means...actually nothing for straight people, like not a thing.

sure who's having all these gay babies? straight people! stop straight marriage, it only breeds gay babies.

Glad we cleared that up.

e_e

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

I think gay people should be allowed in Ireland, so I do.

Oh right yeah.

cometogether

unseenfootage wrote: »

Every child has the right to know their father.



and his mother.

Yeah, you're right, we should ban sexual promiscuity and all adoptions then, good idea that.

Daith

unseenfootage wrote: »

Every child has the right to know their father.



and his mother.




no idea, what you are trying to say...

Neither do I. I can only guess if your son was infertile and adopted you wouldn't be happy.

I don't know what it has to do with gay marriage though.

Haelium

That's actually quite a reasonable video which doesn't seem to contain any bigotry or malice. They simply view marriage as an institution for people who wish to make a family, that's not my view, but they are entitled to disagree with me.

Take your head out of your arse and provide a reason for why this video is so reprehensible.

5uspect

Haelium wrote: »

That's actually quite a reasonable video which doesn't seem to contain any bigotry or malice. They simply view marriage as an institution for people who wish to make a family, that's not my view, but they are entitled to disagree with me.

Take your head out of your arse and provide a reason for why this video is so reprehensible.

I didn't realise marriage had become a license to make babies?
Does that mean we should take children away from unmarried mothers? Oh wait...

tayto lover

5uspect wrote: »

I didn't realise marriage had become a license to make babies?
Does that mean we should take children away from unmarried mothers? Oh wait...

The video promotes their idea of an "ideal" family.
They didn't comment on or criticize unmarried mothers, gay partnerships or any other form of relationship. They just stated what they consider as ideal and best for children.
I didn't see anything much wrong with it and I support gay marriage and adoption.

Daith

Haelium wrote: »

Take your head out of your arse and provide a reason for why this video is so reprehensible.

Gay people can adopt in Ireland. However only a single gay person can adopt. Meaning that in a couple only one parent would have rights to the child.

This ad would want this to continue instead of full marriage rights for same sex couples and full parental rights for the couple.

Leaving the child in a "unique" situation if one parent died all to preserve the special bond of marriage.