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    #1502
    Fishooks13
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭Fishooks13


    Sertus wrote: »


    Call it what you want. They are not hypocrits, any rational person who supports equal marriage rights supports equality for all consenting adults, not just gay and hetro couples.

    Ok, so seeing as you're so insistent that you spoke to this TD. I'm sure you wouldn't mind PM'ing me his name along with your own name so that I can check to see what his views on the subject are?

    Now I presume you won't have any problem doing this seeing as you've already gone to such lengths to fight for same family sex


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    #1503
    gcgirl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,044 ✭✭✭gcgirl


    eyeroad yearowl one wrote: »


    Again, see the poster's own link that he posted.
    its been reported enough pope beni's thoughts on us gays so please go vtroll somewhere else


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    #1504
    Grayson
    Registered Users Posts: 16,133 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Sertus wrote: »
    You can panic and avoid the issue all you want, but Marriage equality, means equality.

    Why should these equal rights not be extending to all consenting adults ?
    Grayson wrote: »
    I am so sick of these slippery slope arguments.

    If We legalise gay marriage we'll have to legalise incest.......

    If we legalise marijuana we'll have to make it legal for people to own a kilo of crystal meth........

    Don't keep equating the two.


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    #1505
    gbee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    I'm taking ten minutes off, Happy New Year.

    Love ye all, kisses and hugs, back after the champers, :)


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    #1506
    Sertus
    Site Banned Posts: 180 ✭✭Sertus


    Fishooks13 wrote: »
    Ok, so seeing as you're so insistent that you spoke to this TD. I'm sure you wouldn't mind PM'ing me his name along with your own name so that I can check to see what his views on the subject are?

    Now I presume you won't have any problem doing this seeing as you've already gone to such lengths to fight for same family sex

    I'm not falling for that, I'm not revealing my personal identity to anyone. In fact that sounds quite threatening and creepy to me. Why have you not asked other posters here to do this ?


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    #1507
    eyeroad yearowl one
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭eyeroad yearowl one


    Grayson wrote: »
    The link that I posted above actually quotes this


    And it quotes this
    Homosexual desires, however, are not in themselves sinful. People are subject to a wide variety of sinful desires over which they have little direct control, but these do not become sinful until a person acts upon them, either by acting out the desire or by encouraging the desire and deliberately engaging in fantasies about acting it out. People tempted by homosexual desires, like people tempted by improper heterosexual desires, are not sinning until they act upon those desires in some manner

    If you are gay and have desires towards a person of the same sex, you are allowed in the Catholic Church. which is what I said above.

    You don't get banished or excommunicated for being gay in itself.


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    #1508
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Mod.

    Alright, big circles, we are going in them.

    We'll be wrapping this up soon I feel.

    Happy new year and peace to all Man and Woman.


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    #1509
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,879 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Sertus wrote: »
    You can panic and avoid the issue all you want, but Marriage equality, means equality.

    Why should these equal rights not be extending to all consenting adults ?

    Again, I didn't see you asking any other posters in agreement with only gay marriage the same questions, that looked like hypocrisy to me. As for support groups I have contacted a few other people and we are looking into it. Quite a lot of the local LGBT members I've spoken would like to incorporate this issue, as they have done in recent years with transgender rights, so we're working on that. Its early days, a bit like where homosexuality was 10-20 years ago, but we are getting there.

    Call it what you want. They are not hypocrits, any rational person who supports equal marriage rights supports equality for all consenting adults, not just gay and hetro couples. Granted they are not from a traditional rural party.

    Which lgbt group are you talking about?

    I think you might be mixed up. The I in LGBTI stands for intersex not incest.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #1510
    dttq
    Closed Accounts Posts: 381 ✭✭dttq


    eyeroad yearowl one wrote: »


    I'm not disagreeing with what you are saying but it is off topic.


    I'm just saying you can't go saying the orange order can't promote "britishness" up north because you think they might be anti-catholic or anti-Irish.

    Similarly you can't say a religious organisation can't promote their own idea of the "ideal" because you think they are anti-gay

    Ok enough, how much is D. Quinn paying you? In my infinite trust of mans compassion and his logical understandment and ability to affiliate with what is truly right toward his fellow creatures, I have trouble believing you are been genuine - rather than been a send-up, wind up merchant. Nobody could seriously be this deluded. Whatever he's paying you, I'll double it for you my wum mercenary friend.


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    #1511
    Fishooks13
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭Fishooks13


    Sertus wrote: »
    I'm not falling for that, I'm not revealing my personal identity to anyone. In fact that sounds quite threatening and creepy to me. Why have you not asked other posters here to do this ?

    Says the guy looking to legalize incest :D

    I haven't asked other posters because you're the only one claiming to have held a discussion with two elected officials about legalizing incest. I believe you to be lying.


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    #1512
    Grayson
    Registered Users Posts: 16,133 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    This is a funny site.

    http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html
    The societal implications of the unrestrained sexual activity described above are devastating. The ideal of sexual activity being limited to marriage, always defined as male-female, has been a fence erected in all civilizations around the globe.105 Throughout history, many people have climbed over the fence, engaging in premarital, extramarital and homosexual sex. Still, the fence stands; the limits are visible to all. Climbing over the fence, metaphorically, has always been recognized as a breach of those limits, even by the breachers themselves. No civilization can retain its vitality for multiple generations after removing the fence.106

    But now social activists are saying that there should be no fence, and that to destroy the fence is an act of liberation.107 If the fence is torn down, there is no visible boundary to sexual expression. If gay sex is socially acceptable, what logical reason can there be to deny social acceptance of adultery, polygamy, or pedophilia? The polygamist movement already has support from some of the advocates for GLB rights.108 And some in the psychological profession are floating the idea that maybe pedophilia is not so damaging to children after all

    Yep, they actually tried to equate paedophilia with being gay or at least put in a slippery slope argument.

    Won't someone think of the children!!


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    #1513
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,879 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Fishooks13 wrote: »
    Says the guy looking to legalize incest :D

    I haven't asked other posters because you're the only one claiming to have held a discussion with two elected officials about legalizing incest. I believe you to be lying.

    As I said all along. Trolling.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #1514
    eyeroad yearowl one
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭eyeroad yearowl one


    dttq wrote: »
    Ok enough, how much is D. Quinn paying you? In my infinite trust of mans compassion and his logical understandment and ability to affiliate with what is truly right toward his fellow creatures, I have trouble believing you are been genuine - rather than been a send-up, wind up merchant. Nobody could seriously be this deluded. Whatever he's paying you, I'll double it for you my wum mercenary friend.

    Haha.

    I think this is what people refer to as "ad hominem". You obviously cannot refute my post and cannot twist whatever prejudiced views u have into coherent counterpoint

    Is it not against the rules to directly abuse someone like this? Aren't there people on here who moderate the posts?


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    #1515
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,879 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    Mod.

    Alright, big circles, we are going in them.

    We'll be wrapping this up soon I feel.

    Happy new year and peace to all Man and Woman.

    Kill it.

    Now.

    Please.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #1516
    Fishooks13
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭Fishooks13


    mango salsa wrote: »
    Kill it.

    Now.

    Please.

    with fire


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    #1517
    WatchWolf
    Registered Users Posts: 545 ✭✭✭WatchWolf


    My parents didn't love each other, never showed love to me, and I was more than likely a mistake.

    Your move, IONA.


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    #1518
    Sertus
    Site Banned Posts: 180 ✭✭Sertus


    Fishooks13 wrote: »
    Says the guy looking to legalize incest :D

    Bigots used to say the same thing about homosexuality
    Fishooks13 wrote: »
    I haven't asked other posters because you're the only one claiming to have held a discussion with two elected officials about legalizing incest. I believe you to be lying.

    Given the comments here, I'm not revealing personal identities to anyone and especially not to you.


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    #1519
    eyeroad yearowl one
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭eyeroad yearowl one


    WatchWolf wrote: »
    My parents didn't love each other, never showed love to me, and I was more than likely a mistake.

    Your move, IONA.


    Have you spoken to a professional about that?



    Sorry, I couldn't resist. Only taking the piss


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    #1520
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,879 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    mango salsa wrote: »
    Kill it.

    Now.

    Please.

    Pretty please

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #1521
    WatchWolf
    Registered Users Posts: 545 ✭✭✭WatchWolf


    eyeroad yearowl one wrote: »
    Have you spoken to a professional about that?



    Sorry, I couldn't resist. Only taking the piss

    :p


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    #1522
    gcgirl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,044 ✭✭✭gcgirl


    eyeroad yearowl one wrote: »


    Have you spoken to a professional about that?



    Sorry, I couldn't resist. Only taking the piss
    seriously like !

    Your unreal


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    #1523
    Fishooks13
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭Fishooks13


    Sertus wrote: »
    Bigots used to say the same thing about homosexuality

    .


    I've seen bestiality defended the same idiotic way as that.

    Being gay is not the same as having sex with family members. One is dangerous, one is not.

    I have to ask before the thread locks. Are you looking to be in some sort of relationship with a family member?


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    #1524
    Sertus
    Site Banned Posts: 180 ✭✭Sertus


    mango salsa wrote: »
    Kill it.

    Now.

    Please.

    Yes, kill anything that dares mention equality for all and has no argument against it. How convenient and hypocritical.


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    #1525
    Sertus
    Site Banned Posts: 180 ✭✭Sertus


    Fishooks13 wrote: »
    I've seen bestiality defended the same idiotic way as that.

    I have to ask before the thread locks. Are you looking to be in some sort of relationship with a family member?

    Comparing a consenting loving relationship between adults to that ? I heard the same thing from anti-gay bigots. My personal life is none of your business. Have you asked the other people here are they looking to be in some sort of gay relationship ? No you have not.


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    #1526
    eyeroad yearowl one
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭eyeroad yearowl one


    gcgirl wrote: »
    seriously like !

    Your unreal

    Ah jaysus. It was only a joke. The poster I made it to saw the joke.

    Lighten up. Lose some of that "poor me" attitude.

    Btw. My what is unreal?


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    #1527
    eyeroad yearowl one
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭eyeroad yearowl one


    Fishooks13 wrote: »
    Being gay is not the same as having sex with family members. One is dangerous, one is not.


    Which one is which :p


    I guess it depends on your county!


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    #1528
    Fishooks13
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭Fishooks13


    Sertus wrote: »
    Comparing a consenting loving relationship between adults to that ? I heard the same thing from anti-gay bigots. My personal life is none of your business. Have you asked the other people here are they looking to be in some sort of gay relationship ? No you have not.

    Don't worry man. Soon those brave td's will stand up for the incest lovers of Ireland and you'll have free reign to love all the family members you like


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    #1529
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    /thread.

    Co mods may read over this again.

    Happy new years.


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