Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread II

Swiwi.

Hands up 6 months ago, if you were thinking Ireland's wingers for the opening 6N clash would come from a combination of McFadden, Kearney and Trimble?

I guess the team will need to create tries for the wingers to convert, rather than rely on the wingers to create them in the first place.

How unlucky is Fitzgerald? I'll answer my rhetorical Q myself by saying "very". Wish him a speedy recovery!

(I don't think it'll matter which wings for the Scotland game, but Wales is whole different ball-game. At the moment, if I put it in a NZ context, I feel like the ABs are about to play, and Schmidt has chosen Scott Hamilton & Caleb Ralph, while leaving Joe Rococoko on the sidelines...)

sullivlo

Swiwi. wrote: »

Yeah, I'm just saying to date I think he has been world class at provincial level and international class at international level, and I don't think provincial displays should be used to judge a player internationally. If he has a world class 6N, then I'll be happy he's world class at all levels of the game. Not a slur on Sexton, just my take on it.

He has shown flashes of world class with Ireland but not on a consistent level. The performance against England in 2011, Australia at the WC and before injury, NZ last year, were, to me, world class. But like most of the blue/red/white/green armies, their provincial form did not translate to the green jersey. As Joe says, consistency is key and I suspect we will see that over the coming games.

And then a lot more players in the squad of 35 will be pushing for a space in the category of world class. If Joe can get the skills, consistency and fluidity he had with Leinster, I think Irish rugby is in for a fun time.

.ak

WTF is up with players getting injured in the Irish camp?!

molloyjh

.ak wrote: »

WTF is up with players getting injured in the Irish camp?!

I know. All soft tissue injuries as well. Frustrating!

justsomebloke

Anyone know when the team is announced?

Podge_irl

Tomorrow, annoyingly.

Thanos

Wow, leaving it late for the team to be announced, what is the latest he can do it, 48 hours or 56 hours or something?

Maybe waiting to see how LF and ER are by tomorrow morning i guess.

rrpc

Thanos wrote: »

Wow, leaving it late for the team to be announced, what is the latest he can do it, 48 hours or 56 hours or something?

Maybe waiting to see how LF and ER are by tomorrow morning i guess.

Two days before the match is pretty normal tbh. It was discussed earlier in the thread and although the first game announcement last year was earlier, subsequent ones were two days before as well.

.ak

Gonna do a rain dance for Fitzy.

danthefan

.ak wrote: »

Gonna do a rain dance for Fitzy.

He's out apparently.

bilston

rrpc wrote: »

Two days before the match is pretty normal tbh. It was discussed earlier in the thread and although the first game announcement last year was earlier, subsequent ones were two days before as well.

It's usually a bit longer for internationals, going on past years, albeit under a different regime, it may get leaked anyway, or at least bits of it will. Isn't there already a rumour that Moore is starting?

Edit - it might actually have leaked elsewhere already...

Marshall and Trimble RUMOURED (this is the rumours thread after all) to be starting. Rest of starting XV as expected if the RUMOUR is true.

.ak

danthefan wrote: »

He's out apparently.

Well according to a poster here. Haven't seen anything else around. As it hasn't been confirmed I'm gonna dance away....

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

danthefan wrote: »

He's out apparently.

Jesus that would just be the worst luck in the world

darragh_haven

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Jesus that would just be the worst luck in the world

who would win in the "worst luck in the world competion". Earls or Fitz

Clearlier

darragh_haven wrote: »

who would win in the "worst luck in the world competion". Earls or Fitz

I think that at a different level Cave would have shout too.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

darragh_haven wrote: »

who would win in the "worst luck in the world competion". Earls or Fitz

Fitz, but Earls not far off

The when you think that their our two best wingers at the moment you have to wonder if there might be some sort of curse or black magic at play here

Taco Corp

rrpc wrote: »

Two days before the match is pretty normal tbh. It was discussed earlier in the thread and although the first game announcement last year was earlier, subsequent ones were two days before as well.

I thought it was much later last year because of all the injuries, didn't know who was going to be fit until the last minute. in previous years announcements were always earlier.

Tox56

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

The when you think that their our two best wingers at the moment you have to wonder if there might be some sort of curse or black magic at play here

Fair assumption to make imo

bilston

Allegedly...

1 Healy
2 Best
3 Ross
4 Toner
5 POC
6 POM
7 Henry
8 Heaslip
9 Murray
10 Sexton
11 Trimble
12 Marshall
13 BOD
14 D. Kearney
15 R. Kearney

16 Cronin
17 McGrath
18 Moore
19 Tuohy
20 TOD
21 Boss
22 Jackson
23 McFadden

Would take that to be honest. A couple of new caps from the bench as well.

andymx11

.ak wrote: »

Well according to a poster here. Haven't seen anything else around. As it hasn't been confirmed I'm gonna dance away....

Altough I have accepted that Fitz more than likely wont play this weekend I still think it's weird how nobody else is onto it. That Tweet from Sinead was lunch time yesterday- maybe I have missed something but I havent seen any other source report it. Maybe its not as bad as we think? Therefore, please rain dance away.

.ak

bilston wrote: »

Allegedly...

1 Healy
2 Best
3 Ross
4 Toner
5 POC
6 POM
7 Henry
8 Heaslip
9 Murray
10 Sexton
11 Trimble
12 Marshall
13 BOD
14 D. Kearney
15 R. Kearney

16 Cronin
17 McGrath
18 Moore
19 Tuohy
20 TOD
21 Boss
22 Jackson
23 McFadden

Would take that to be honest. A couple of new caps from the bench as well.

I'd prefer McFadden to start but yeah, that's the likely choice.

sydthebeat

bilston wrote: »

Allegedly...

1 Healy
2 Best
3 Ross
4 Toner
5 POC
6 POM
7 Henry
8 Heaslip
9 Murray
10 Sexton
11 Trimble
12 Marshall
13 BOD
14 D. Kearney
15 R. Kearney

16 Cronin
17 McGrath
18 Moore
19 Tuohy
20 TOD
21 Boss
22 Jackson
23 McFadden

Would take that to be honest. A couple of new caps from the bench as well.

yeah looks to be the best 23 available at the moment.
Darcy / Marshall probably interchangeable in that what Darcy may give more in defence Marshall probably offers more in attack.

Surely DKearns 11 and Trimble 14 if they're the starting wingers???

Good team from all available really

Ciaran-Irl

andymx11 wrote: »

Altough I have accepted that Fitz more than likely wont play this weekend I still think it's weird how nobody else is onto it. That Tweet from Sinead was lunch time yesterday- maybe I have missed something but I havent seen any other source report it. Maybe its not as bad as we think? Therefore, please rain dance away.

Was on newstalk yesterday.

danthefan

andymx11 wrote: »

Altough I have accepted that Fitz more than likely wont play this weekend I still think it's weird how nobody else is onto it. That Tweet from Sinead was lunch time yesterday- maybe I have missed something but I havent seen any other source report it. Maybe its not as bad as we think? Therefore, please rain dance away.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/luke-fitzgerald-latest-doubt-with-recurring-troublesome-lower-abdominal-strain-1.1672529

Utah_Saint

Clearlier wrote: »

I think that at a different level Cave would have shout too.

Ferris would be up there too

andymx11

danthefan wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/luke-fitzgerald-latest-doubt-with-recurring-troublesome-lower-abdominal-strain-1.1672529

Ah sh!t, thanks for that. That's the last time I will post without reading the morning paper.

.ak

danthefan wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/luke-fitzgerald-latest-doubt-with-recurring-troublesome-lower-abdominal-strain-1.1672529

As for McCarthy, it now transpires that his facial wounds have severely limited his training time. “To tell you the truth he didn’t look nice,” admitted Kiss. “His face had swelled up and there was a lot of fluid and it kinda escapes into parts of the body and it stuck in the skull area."

/sick

bilston

Deleted User wrote: »

Surely DKearns 11 and Trimble 14 if they're the starting wingers???

Yeah, makes more sense actually.

The Pheasant2

FFS McCarthy too?! Is someone going around the Ireland camp smashing mirrors or something?