Rally for The Quinn-were you there?

lazygal

Thousands march in support of Quinn family


Around 5,000 people took to the streets of Ballyconnell in Co. Cavan last night, to show their support for the bankrupt businessman, Sean Quinn and his family.

Mr Quinn, the former head of the Quinn Group, his son Sean Junior, and his nephew Peter Darragh Quinn have all been before the High Court in recent months, in relation to debts owed to Anglo Irish Bank.

Last night's rally was organised by the group, Concerned Irish Citizens, who are demanding the suspension of the contempt orders issued against the three Quinn men.

Sean Quinn Junior and Peter Darragh Quinn have been sentenced to three months in jail for contempt of court.

However, only Sean Junior is serving his sentence, as Peter Darragh Quinn has been on the run since he failed to show up at the High Court hearing on July 20.

Meanwhile Sean Quinn Senior has been given time by the High Court to reverse a scheme aimed at preventing Anglo Irish Bank from accessing assets.

Many well known GAA figures addressed the crowd at last night's demonstration, with Tyrone Manager Mickey Harte describing the Quinn family as "decent people".

An emotional Sean Quinn Senior also addressed the crowd saying an "untrue story is being told" but that "hopefully justice will prevail", and he thanked the local people for all their support:

Peter Darragh Quinn remains at large, but he was photographed over the weekend, attending two separate GAA matches in Co. Fermanagh.

A warrant has been issued for his arrest, but the PSNI cannot intervene as he is only wanted on civil charges in the Republic of Ireland.

Speaking over the weekend, Sean Quinn Senior again insisted he has no idea where his nephew is.

From Broadsheet.ie http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/thousands-march-in-support-of-quinn-family-561111.html


Maybe someone could tell The Quinn where is nephew is?

Uriel.

Were you? Pffft lazy girl

bradknowell

Nope. To many potholes up there.

up for anything

Ah well, if the GAA say they're decent people then they must be.

Hardonraging

I wasnt far away.....

mikemac1

The man seems to be a God up there

It's not strange, you'll find people in Castlebar who won't hear a bad word about the Flynns

Sunnyisland

Micky harte,colm o'rourke,sean boylan were there also,It looks like some of the top men of the GAA are supporting the quinns. Sean quinn for sam i say.

Dirk Gently

It might be worth checking out the finances of those wagons who organise "Concerned Irish Citizens". I've never known cavan people to be concerned about anything without first recieving some coin.

Vicxas

So they're supporting a fella who drove more than one multi million euro business' into the ground, and then tried to hide money from his creditors......




What the FCUK is wrong with Ireland.

Hardonraging

Just to throw a tool in the works, i know a lot of people are hating on sean and the boy's but he did create a serious amount of job's in that region, and has always keep those job's there, unlike other companies like Dell etc who pulled out once the Gov stopped offering them tax breaks and incentives to stay ...

I for one dont blame him and his family for attempting to save there business...

bradknowell

Vicxas wrote: »

So they're supporting a fella who drove more than one multi million euro business' into the ground, and then tried to hide money from his creditors......




What the FCUK is wrong with Ireland.

If I had millions I'd do the same lol.

Davidth88

No because I was too busy earning money to pay for the levy on my car insurance that is a direct result of this man's gambling .

He should be behind bars .

hardCopy

Listening to this on the radio now, fvckin thicks.

mikemac1

Hardonraging wrote: »

unlike other companies like Dell etc who pulled out once the Gov stopped offering them tax breaks and incentives to stay ...

Dell still employ 1,000 people here

And Dell were there for decades

lazygal

mikemac1 wrote: »

Dell still employ 1,000 people here

And Dell were there for decades

And didn't actively put assets beyond the reach of the state, try to take over a bank and take out loans to buy shares in the same bank, pretend that a wife was clueless about being a director of loads of companies, wasn't found guilty of contempt of court.......

Hardonraging

mikemac1 wrote: »

Dell still employ 1,000 people here

And Dell were there for decades

How many do they not employ ?? and I'm using Dell as one example

mikemac1

Hardonraging wrote: »

How many do they not employ ??

Come in, provide jobs for a few decades, leave and everyone hates you

Heroditas

Hardonraging wrote: »

Just to throw a tool in the works, i know a lot of people are hating on sean and the boy's but he did create a serious amount of job's in that region, and has always keep those job's there, unlike other companies like Dell etc who pulled out once the Gov stopped offering them tax breaks and incentives to stay ...

I for one dont blame him and his family for attempting to save there business...

I hope you still say that when you're looking at the line item on your insurance quote that consists of a levy to prop up those jobs as a result of his financial misadventures.

Hardonraging

mikemac1 wrote: »

Come in, provide jobs for a few decades, leave and everyone hates you

Fundamentally that's why Sean has the backing in the region !! he's always been there, constantly creating job's in an area that's never had feck all ..

Heroditas wrote: »

I hope you still say that when you're looking at the line item on your insurance quote that consists of a levy to prop up those jobs as a result of his financial misadventures.

I fail to see you're point, are you implying the Gov will impose an insurance based levy to subsidise the quinn employee's, or that Libery insurance will impose a levy on it's policies ?

Heroditas

Hardonraging wrote: »

I fail to see you're point, are you implying the Gov will impose an insurance based levy to subsidise the quinn employee's, or that Libery insurance will impose a levy on it's policies ?

The levy is already in place. Every single one of us who takes out an insurance policy is paying a levy to make up for the collapse of Quinn.

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/insurance-levy-to-pay-for-620m-quinn-loss-2629163.html

Hardonraging

Heroditas wrote: »

The levy is already in place. Every single one of us who takes out an insurance policy is paying a levy to make up for the collapse of Quinn.

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/insurance-levy-to-pay-for-620m-quinn-loss-2629163.html

At least there's still jobs right ?

R0ot

So the main argument here seems to be "ah sure he did so much good, so we can't blame him for doing something bad."

Yeah .... ok...

Heroditas

Hardonraging wrote: »

At least there's still jobs right ?

Why the hell should I subsidize jobs with an insurance company I don't even use?

newport2

Michael Lowry and Jackie Haely-Rae supporters would be all proud of the Cavan supporters, sure isn't backing the local tribesman more important than anything else? :rolleyes:

Dyr

Bogger's tend to rally around their chieftains, especially when the meedja are after them

Pumpkinseeds

I was shocked and sickened by this protest. What the hell is wrong with those morons? Are they all inbred or just fricking thick? They can't all be riding their sisters and mothers up that part of the country. Gombeenism at its finest, no wonder we're a laughing stock to the rest of the world. Its true, strange things go on in the countryside.:mad:

Dirk Gently

Hardonraging wrote: »

Just to throw a tool in the works, i know a lot of people are hating on sean and the boy's but he did create a serious amount of job's in that region, and has always keep those job's there,

So he gave people an income and had shares in a bank which was all too happy to lend to those same people to buy houses which he happens to sell materials to build and policies to insure. The bank collapses (largely to do with quinns stupidity) and throws away the Quinn jobs as he got too wreckless and greedy. Everyones now stuck with mortgages they can't pay and the government had to bail out the jobs by taxing the entire industry and bail out the bank too. He's not the messiah, he simply wanted to empower himself and his family and he didn't care how many lives he destroyed financially to achieve it. If the government didn't bail out Cavan and the banks, would people up there still love Sean Quinn so much?

newport2

Bambi wrote: »

Bogger's tend to rally around their chieftains, especially when the meedja are after them

And the DeeFore meedja at that. We'll show them city-slickers

mikemac1

Bambi wrote: »

Bogger's tend to rally around their chieftains, especially when the meedja are after them

newport2 wrote: »

And the DeeFore meedja at that. We'll show them city-slickers

Aye, Frank twenty houses Fahy, Ray Burke, Martin Cullen, dirty Phil Hogan, O'Dea and I can't think of a Corkonian but that's five cities covered

All elected multiple times, lots of support

Boggers you say :rolleyes:

Hardonraging

Heroditas wrote: »

Why the hell should I subsidize jobs with an insurance company I don't even use?

Dont get me wrong chief, i don't enjoy subsidising any body's income..

Dirk Gently wrote: »

So he gave people an income and had shares in a bank which was all too happy to lend to those same people to buy houses which he happens to sell materials to build and policies to insure. The bank collapses (largely to do with quinns stupidity) and throws away the Quinn jobs as he got too wreckless and greedy. Everyones now stuck with mortgages they can't pay and the government had to bail out the jobs by taxing the entire industry and bail out the bank too. He's not the messiah, he simply wanted to empower himself and his family and he didn't care how many lives he destroyed financially to achieve it. If the government didn't bail out Cavan and the banks, would people up there still love Sean Quinn so much?

I must have missed the part where Sean Quinn was managing Anglo ?

buck65

Mickey Harte bamboozles me utterly, where is his head at getting involved in this?

newport2

mikemac1 wrote: »

Aye, Frank twenty houses Fahy, Ray Burke, Martin Cullen, dirty Phil Hogan and I can't think of a Corkonian but that's five cities covered

All elected multiple times, lots of support

Boggers you say :rolleyes:

Well, one city and four towns.

But appart from that, you're absolutely right, those supporters were no better.

Heroditas

Hardonraging wrote: »

I must have missed the part where Sean Quinn was managing Anglo ?

Nobody put a gun to his head to borrow money from Anglo to buy shares in the bank.

mikemac1

newport2 wrote: »

Well, one city and four towns.

Yes, Waterford is Ireland's oldest city

Dyr

mikemac1 wrote: »

Aye, Frank twenty houses Fahy, Ray Burke, Martin Cullen, dirty Phil Hogan, O'Dea and I can't think of a Corkonian but that's five cities covered

All elected multiple times, lots of support

Boggers you say :rolleyes:

Ya did'nt see any local rallies for the Burker when he was up in court did ya?

The rest are all boggers btw

Hardonraging

Heroditas wrote: »

Nobody put a gun to his head to borrow money from Anglo to buy shares in the bank.

By that argument, you could say, nobody put a gun to anyone's head and made them take out mortgages ..

The thread's about the rally, it's not about if he's right or wrong, my point is simple, he's go the support of the people because he provided constant job's in the area when others didnt.

Dirk Gently

Hardonraging wrote: »

I must have missed the part where Sean Quinn was managing Anglo ?

I missed the part where Quinn was kidnapped, brought to anglo HQ and had a gun put to his head to buy all those shares.

bradknowell

Hardonraging wrote: »

How many do they not employ ?? and I'm using Dell as one example

Seriously?
What's the amount of people in Ireland minus 1000

starbelgrade

mikemac1 wrote: »

Aye, Frank twenty houses Fahy, Ray Burke, Martin Cullen, dirty Phil Hogan, O'Dea and I can't think of a Corkonian but that's five cities covered

All elected multiple times, lots of support

Boggers you say :rolleyes:

And let's not forget that two of the biggest crooks in Irish political history, namely Bertie Ahern & Charles Haughey, were both elected from the Dublin constituencies, not once, not twice, but a total of five times between them.

Some people go on about "Parish Pump Politics" and "Gombeenery" as if it were something that is exclusive to the country, while conveniently forgetting that the Dublin electorate suffers from exactly the amount of political naivety as the rest of the country, if not more so.

Ash.J.Williams

I'm suspicious of all this hoo ha. People are paying too much attention to sean quinn and not enough attention on the rest of the pack. Seems like a smoke screen.

Hardonraging

Dirk Gently wrote: »

I missed the part where Quinn was kidnapped, brought to anglo HQ and had a gun put to his head to buy all those shares.

It's only business ...

bradknowell wrote: »

Seriously?
What's the amount of people in Ireland minus 1000

apologies perhaps my cryptic reply wasnt clear enough, dell dropped around 1900 staff .. and moved to Poland correct ?

Again i'm using Dell as an example, there's been plenty of other companies to do the same ..

Goat the dote

I was sick reading about that. Fr Brian Darcy is after going right down in my estimation too. But then again think of the gimps in Kerry who shook the hand of the rapist. I'm from the "country" but we're not all simple enough to do stupid things like this

Turtwig

It's reassuring to know I can pretty much piss on the laws of a country and its law abiding citizens, as long as I keep a region of it employed.

Heroditas

Hardonraging wrote: »

By that argument, you could say, nobody put a gun to anyone's head and made them take out mortgages ..

Correct.
However, there's nothing underhanded or shady with most people taking out mortgages.
Borrowing money from an institution to prop up its share price is a different matter.

Ash.J.Williams

Heroditas wrote: »

Correct.
However, there's nothing underhanded or shady with most people taking out mortgages.
Borrowing money from an institution to prop up its share price is a different matter.

there is actually...giving people 100% mortgages and sexing up their incomes to get them higher mortgages should have been criminal.

Ash.J.Williams

Hardonraging wrote: »

It's only business ...



apologies perhaps my cryptic reply wasnt clear enough, dell dropped around 1900 staff .. and moved to Poland correct ?

Again i'm using Dell as an example, there's been plenty of other companies to do the same ..

i think they shafted poland too....took the tax breaks and moved to china

Heroditas

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Heroditas wrote: »

Correct.
However, there's nothing underhanded or shady with most people taking out mortgages.
Borrowing money from an institution to prop up its share price is a different matter.

there is actually...giving people 100% mortgages and sexing up their incomes to get them higher mortgages should have been criminal.

I said most people.
There's always a percentage who will be dishonest.

Guy:Incognito

Hardonraging wrote: »

Just to throw a tool in the works, i know a lot of people are hating on sean and the boy's but he did create a serious amount of job's in that region,.

H echeated and didnt obey the rules that other businesses had to . It's easier to build a business and vreate job when your cheating and everyone else is playing by the rules.

Hardonraging

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

i think they shafted poland too....took the tax breaks and moved to china

As i said previously, it's only business ...

newport2

Hardonraging wrote: »

By that argument, you could say, nobody put a gun to anyone's head and made them take out mortgages ..
.

Absolutely.

But the vast majority of mortgage holders are accepting responsibility for the mistake they made and doing their best to repay their mortgages, without trying to play the victim card, hide money away and make the taxpayer foot the bill for them.

smash

Hardonraging wrote: »

How many do they not employ ?? and I'm using Dell as one example

Most of the staff from Dell Limerick got well above what they deserved in redundancy packages.