New York Jets Thread

phatkev · 14-10-2018 06:44PM

Igotadose wrote: »

Wild so far. Badly underthrown ball by Darnold. Should've thrown it away. Colts driving, end of 1st. Sigh.

Yep that one was all on Darnold, he threw a similar on on the first drive and the TE kind of bailed him out.
Good goal line stand there by the defense

phatkev · 14-10-2018 07:36PM

surprising to see the Jets actually try to do something with the ball inside 2 minutes instead of just running it up the middle or knelling

phatkev · 14-10-2018 08:44PM

Spencer Long's snaps are becoming a real issue!

franglan · 14-10-2018 08:45PM

phatkev wrote: »

Spencer Long's snaps are becoming a real issue!

Two weeks running now.

phatkev · 14-10-2018 09:19PM

24 points of the boot of Meyers!! You'd hope the O could be a bit more clinical with the field positions they were given.
If Luck had a receiver that could catch the ball it might have been a different result

hots · 15-10-2018 08:45AM

Pleased with the win last night but the 2 on the trot are a bit flattering against some pretty poor opposition. Long at Centre is becoming a liability, multiple snaps a game causing trouble, not what you want a rookie to be thinking about at all. Thought the defense looked soft enough at times, particularly letting a load of 5 yard+ rushes through in a row, not like us really. Plenty of positives too, nice to see some tight end production, the bluffed TE Screen was great and Leggett could have just as easily got on the end of it.

Not a bad performance but only a score away from sitting here discussing a few poor turnovers and the worst redzone offense in the league...

LuckyLloyd · 15-10-2018 02:48PM

We're not very good but the schedule thus far has been okay and - bizarrely - we could be 5 - 1 if a couple of bounces had gone differently! We'll be dogs for 4 of the next 6 weeks and I won't be anticipating more than a win or two over that stretch. The great thing is that we're getting enough to make starting Darnold worthwhile - he's learning in ways Josh Allen and Sam Rosen are not as he's getting far more situational experience in competitive games.

notobtuse · 17-10-2018 04:41PM

3 & 3 is not a bad record for the Jets at this point. Should be 4 and 2... but, Oh Well! Really disgusted again with our CBS affiliate (CBS has the TV rights for the AFC). They only show one game on Sundays, and it’s always the Steelers. I live less than 1.5 hours travel time to the Meadowlands, and I can only see the Jets play evening games on TV. Been to numerous games over the years, but I prefer to watch NFL games on TV as I tend to have too much tailgating under my belt by the time the game starts. And last time I went I got injured playing a game of 'touch' football with fans from the other team in the Meadowlands parking lot when I was tackled after throwing a pass. Never a good idea to show up for a Jets game three hours before kickoff with a bottle of scotch and coolers full of Guinness.

notobtuse · 17-10-2018 04:43PM

deleted double post. Can't seem to be able to delete. Why does it state I have an error when posting... and resubmit... then posts it any.

notobtuse · 17-10-2018 04:44PM

deleted post again.

SHOVELLER · 18-10-2018 12:55AM

notobtuse wrote: »

3 & 3 is not a bad record for the Jets at this point. Should be 4 and 2... but, Oh Well! Really disgusted again with our CBS affiliate (CBS has the TV rights for the AFC). They only show one game on Sundays, and it’s always the Steelers. I live less than 1.5 hours travel time to the Meadowlands, and I can only see the Jets play evening games on TV. Been to numerous games over the years, but I prefer to watch NFL games on TV as I tend to have too much tailgating under my belt by the time the game starts. And last time I went I got injured playing a game of 'touch' football with fans from the other team in the Meadowlands parking lot when I was tackled after throwing a pass. Never a good idea to show up for a Jets game three hours before kickoff with a bottle of scotch and coolers full of Guinness.

Are there any Jets bars in the nearest big city to you?

Enjoyable win but feel too much emphasis on the 24 points by Myers. From a non American point of view these kicks should never be missed. I mean they are set up for the kicker! I was flabbergasted when the Packers kicker missed five the other week.

Anyway on to the Vikings and feel there will be extra sauce to that with Cousins as QB. Although treated unfairly here I feel he did disrespect the Jets in his recent documentary.

Seeing Joe Namath at half time for the 50th anniversary of that Super Bowl win brought back memories of being at the game a decade ago in the old stadium when Favre threw two touchdowns. Legend!

Igotadose · 18-10-2018 10:19AM

SHOVELLER wrote: »

Seeing Joe Namath at half time for the 50th anniversary of that Super Bowl win brought back memories of being at the game a decade ago in the old stadium when Favre threw two touchdowns. Legend!

I saw him play vs. OJ and the Bills in 1972 @ Shea. Took me a bit to realize what you meant by 'the old stadium'.

Haven't seen them at home since the move to MetLife. Last time was vs. Seahawks when I lived in Seattle, got to see Sanchez run the wildcat (ineffectively) to Tebow...

As for the results, the defense has to pick it up. Way too soft in the red zone. Darnold is showing a steady hand so far, which is good, but 5 games don't make a career.

franglan · 21-10-2018 07:38PM

What's Spencer Long's contract. Should be in Mike Mac's office Monday morning.

corner back 2 · 21-10-2018 09:17PM

Ugly game for Sam missing a lot of receivers but some fairly poor throws. Injuries really mounting now. Defence held up well for a while but on the field for far too long.

LuckyLloyd · 22-10-2018 01:53PM

Beaten in all phases of the game, no complaints. Darnold was missing two weapons in the passing game that he had leaned on in previous games and that should be considered when accounting for his extremely poor performance. Why he didn't throw to Kearse at all is beyond me however.

I commend the Defense for a subtlety heroic performance. They held the Vikings to 2 conversions on 15 third downs. A functioning offense would have taken some advantage but, alas.

Next week is going to be real ugly and the staff will need to retain the courage of their convictions and leave Darnold out there no matter what happens. He could have a historically poor game but he absolutely must be played through this. The die has been cast.

notobtuse · 22-10-2018 02:38PM

SHOVELLER wrote: »

notobtuse wrote: »

3 & 3 is not a bad record for the Jets at this point. Should be 4 and 2... but, Oh Well! Really disgusted again with our CBS affiliate (CBS has the TV rights for the AFC). They only show one game on Sundays, and it’s always the Steelers. I live less than 1.5 hours travel time to the Meadowlands, and I can only see the Jets play evening games on TV. Been to numerous games over the years, but I prefer to watch NFL games on TV as I tend to have too much tailgating under my belt by the time the game starts. And last time I went I got injured playing a game of 'touch' football with fans from the other team in the Meadowlands parking lot when I was tackled after throwing a pass. Never a good idea to show up for a Jets game three hours before kickoff with a bottle of scotch and coolers full of Guinness.

Are there any Jets bars in the nearest big city to you?

Enjoyable win but feel too much emphasis on the 24 points by Myers. From a non American point of view these kicks should never be missed. I mean they are set up for the kicker! I was flabbergasted when the Packers kicker missed five the other week.

Anyway on to the Vikings and feel there will be extra sauce to that with Cousins as QB. Although treated unfairly here I feel he did disrespect the Jets in his recent documentary.

Seeing Joe Namath at half time for the 50th anniversary of that Super Bowl win brought back memories of being at the game a decade ago in the old stadium when Favre threw two touchdowns. Legend!

There are a few sports bars that show various NFL games in the area. But I'm not one to go to bars to watch sports. Would rather watch from the comfort of home.

Horrid game Sunday... Obviously they're still the same old Jets.

phatkev · 24-10-2018 05:59PM

Powell placed on IR, the injuries are really starting to pile up!

EDIT: Sh1t apparently its a possible career ending injury.

hots · 25-10-2018 11:18AM

phatkev wrote: »

Powell placed on IR, the injuries are really starting to pile up!

EDIT: Sh1t apparently its a possible career ending injury.

Jesus that would be a really sad way to go, heard it was season over job and maybe career with us done but didn't realise it was that serious!

From a Jets perspective we're now just adding another curveball for Sam's development now really. I hope we leave as is though for this year, some of the trades buzzing around are mental.

Igotadose · 26-10-2018 07:09AM

hots wrote: »

Jesus that would be a really sad way to go, heard it was season over job and maybe career with us done but didn't realise it was that serious!

From a Jets perspective we're now just adding another curveball for Sam's development now really. I hope we leave as is though for this year, some of the trades buzzing around are mental.

Jets saying not career-threatening, Bowles had it wrong. Skrine and May might play vs. Bears, but not Enumwa and maybe not Robbie Johnson.

Maybe more plays to the tight ends. Going to be a very difficult matchup, but if you want to be a good team, you have to beat good teams.

https://nypost.com/2018/10/25/bilal-powell-injury-will-end-season-but-not-career/

phatkev · 26-10-2018 11:35AM

Igotadose wrote: »

Jets saying not career-threatening, Bowles had it wrong. Skrine and May might play vs. Bears, but not Enumwa and maybe not Robbie Johnson.

Maybe more plays to the tight ends. Going to be a very difficult matchup, but if you want to be a good team, you have to beat good teams.

https://nypost.com/2018/10/25/bilal-powell-injury-will-end-season-but-not-career/

Well thats good news anyway! Feel bad for the guy as this was a contract year, could very well be the end of his time as a Jet.

corner back 2 · 28-10-2018 09:20PM

Another poor showing. Very short handed on offense with no running game to take the pressure off Darnold. Defense held up well until getting tired late in the 4th. The usual large number of penalties is something that Bowles seems to be unable to deal with. I would be very surprised if he is the head coach of the Jets to begin next season.

phatkev · 28-10-2018 09:41PM

corner back 2 wrote: »

Another poor showing. Very short handed on offense with no running game to take the pressure off Darnold. Defense held up well until getting tired late in the 4th. The usual large number of penalties is something that Bowles seems to be unable to deal with. I would be very surprised if he is the head coach of the Jets to begin next season.

He shouldn't be the coach next week never mind next season and Macc should be gone with him!
They're 2-10 on the road since the start of last season and thats just not good enough at this level.

I thought the D were decent in the first half, but completely went to sh1te in the second half.
I havent seen a worse set of receivers on a Jets team since the 2012 season

corner back 2 · 29-10-2018 05:20PM

Hue Jackson gone today so expect lots of murmurings about Bowles now. According to some he is now the worst coach in the NFL with Jackson gone and turnonthejets already has a list of 6 possible replacements.

LuckyLloyd · 30-10-2018 11:20AM

phatkev wrote: »

He shouldn't be the coach next week never mind next season and Macc should be gone with him!
They're 2-10 on the road since the start of last season and thats just not good enough at this level.

I thought the D were decent in the first half, but completely went to sh1te in the second half.
I havent seen a worse set of receivers on a Jets team since the 2012 season

How is that Bowles fault?

To argue Bowles as the 'worst coach in the league' you need to stand over the contention that the record is out of sync with the level of talent on the roster. Is that the case? If it is, it isn't by much!

Changing the coach is window dressing, really. In a number of areas the roster isn't really at the necessary level of talent, and they're currently starting one of the very worst QBs in the league. He'll probably go alright, but he isn't the problem.

corner back 2 · 30-10-2018 12:43PM

Blaming the rookie QB is not going to solve anything. Darnold has all the tools and possibilities to improve whereas Bowles has proven at this stage he is unable to improve. His clock management is still amongst the worst in the league. He continues to play conservative late in games when behind. He is unable to get a handle on the penalty issues which have dogged the Jets for 3 seasons now.

LuckyLloyd · 30-10-2018 12:51PM

corner back 2 wrote: »

Blaming the rookie QB is not going to solve anything. Darnold has all the tools and possibilities to improve whereas Bowles has proven at this stage he is unable to improve. His clock management is still amongst the worst in the league. He continues to play conservative late in games when behind. He is unable to get a handle on the penalty issues which have dogged the Jets for 3 seasons now.

I'm not blaming a rookie QB, but the fact is when our rookie QB is currently playing as he is we're going to lose stacks of games. You can say he has all the tools and projects positively into the future while accepting that his current level of play is terrible. And once you accept that, you have to accept that losing each week is the expectation. Any wins we pick up with Darnold under centre this year are a nice bonus, such is the level of the roster around him.

In the context we're in, you will find it very easy to find things to pick at about the coaching staff. Such is the nature of teams getting beat all over the field. The key point is that the roster being bereft of talent is the real issue that needs to be fixed.

corner back 2 · 30-10-2018 01:39PM

I would agree with a lot of what you say and I have no problem with the win loss columns but it is very easy to pick out the coaching mistakes because the same ones are occuring for the last 3 years. Bowles has show no sign of improvement unfortunately.

LuckyLloyd · 30-10-2018 02:14PM

I'd ask an awful lot more questions about the 2016 season. I'd have fired him then, and with cause. But no - one is going to argue with a straight face that this year's roster is anywhere near as good as the 2015 roster. You'd struggle to find a positional grouping that's better. Ferguson, Mangold, Revis, Richardson, Pryor, Decker, Marshall, Ivory, Harris, Cromartie. Every team loses talented players, that's part and parcel of the business. But the Jets lost a number of actual NFL level talents in a two year span and have not adequately replaced most of them. Until that changes any coaching staff we bring in is set up to fail. We could have Sean McVay coaching this bunch and I struggle to think they'd have more than five wins.

So all I'm saying is that I'm angry at the front office. They are responsible for setting up rosters to fail for this franchise. Mike Maccagnan has done a terrible job, but a succession of guys in the Woody era have done just as bad. I partially blame Bowles and his staff and I ASSIGN very little blame to the players themselves. Particularly our overmatched defense who are hanging in there as a group as best they can. Or the bunch of lads we have running routes and trying to get open and contribute. It's just so silly to put together rosters so run down YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.

:mad:

corner back 2 · 30-10-2018 03:05PM

You should be used to the frustration being a Jets fan!! Seriously though I think talent evaluation throughout the organisation is poor and has been for a long time. Despite the odd good trade and FA pickup Mac seems to have a hard time evaluating talent especially at college level. He seems to draft a lot of older players out of college who still are projects and the Jets don't seem to have any ability to coach them up. The roster had improved a bit at the start of this season but was very thin and injuries have shown this up very quickly. Also constantly shopping in the bargain bin for OL and RB is coming back to haunt them especially when trying to develop a QB.

phatkev · 30-10-2018 10:36PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

How is that Bowles fault?

To argue Bowles as the 'worst coach in the league' you need to stand over the contention that the record is out of sync with the level of talent on the roster. Is that the case? If it is, it isn't by much!

Changing the coach is window dressing, really. In a number of areas the roster isn't really at the necessary level of talent, and they're currently starting one of the very worst QBs in the league. He'll probably go alright, but he isn't the problem.

Where did I say it was Bowles fault? I said in the same post that Macc should be gone with him.

Bowles is not a good head coach and I dont think he ever will be. He made mistakes his first year and people gave him the benefit of the doubt because it was his first season but he's still making the exact same mistakes 3 years later and thats just not good enough.
The consistent ill discipline is on the coach
The constant failure to prepare for games is on the coach, the Bears game being a prime example of that.
The constant time management issues are on the coach.
Not having the balls to at least try and win a game is on the coach.
Having players on your team that dont know the basic rules of football is on the coach.
Bowles post game interview Sunday told me all I need to know about him as a coach.

Like Ive already said Macc should be gone as well, he's had plenty of chances to build up this team and has continually failed! I'd have no confidence in him spending the 100 odd million they have in cap next season.

New York Jets Thread

Comments