New York Jets Thread

UCD AFC

It's about time the Jets got a thread of their own. The Jets went 8-8 coming off the back of 2 consecutive AFC Championship games. We picked up Chaz Schilens, Tim Tebow and LaRon Landry in the offseason, and drafted the following players:

16: Quinton Coples DE
43 (from Seattle): Stephen Hill WR
77: Demario Davis LB

They now wait until the 6th round to pick again after trading for Tim Tebow and their move-up in the 2nd round.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/
http://www.newyorkjets.com/

phatkev

Jets select safety Josh Bush from Wake Forest with the first of their 6th round picks

Danger_dave1

Free Agency has given us a starting safety in Landry but Coples at end is such a big risk. We did need a pass rush but was he the answer?

Well the Tebowmania will kick back in next week :pac:

FreeOSCAR

It really was a boom or bust Draft for ourselves this year.

We could potentially have had our best draft since the 06 Draft or it could turn out to be a stinker. I think the stories on Coples giving up in his final year in UNC are blown way out of proportion. He started the season slow but finished fairly strongly in his last few games.

Stephen Hill I would be a bit more skeptical over because he's very raw. To me the pick makes sense. We had Edwards and Plaxico over the past few seasons as that big blocking ability to stretch the field (not your Plax), red zone target but both were always going to be stop gaps so finally I hope we have our own.

Demario Davis has a bunch of analysts torn. Some said we reached up for him whilst others had him as a Top 5 Prospect at the LB position. I hope he can come in a play some downs here and there this season with a view to replacing Bart Scott in the next. He's also supposedly an excellent special teams player.

Snippets on others
Gannaway will not be a 1000 yd rusher in the league for me but for someone who watched a bit of Baylor football last season our red zone rushing woes should hopefully be over with.

Whilst I really don't know much else about the other players I'm happy we have added depth at the Safety and O-Line position.
If any 1 of Josh Bush, RG2, Antonio Allen or Jordan White over some production this season I will be fairly happy.

Summary - High Risk, High Reward draft for the Jets. The only way Tennebaum and Rex know how.



Now for the massive issue of the Darrelle Revis contract. I really hope this doesn't turn into a situation like two years ago.
It's going to be a long summer in the off season

UCD AFC

Having seen the draft pan out, in hindsight I would have loved for the Jets to move down anywhere in the 1st round, picking up extra picks and selecting Courtney Upshaw

FreeOSCAR

UCD AFC wrote: »

Having seen the draft pan out, in hindsight I would have loved for the Jets to move down anywhere in the 1st round, picking up extra picks and selecting Courtney Upshaw

They did try to by all accounts but were asking for too much for someone to move up.

NFL Network cut to their War Room and Tennenbaum was on the phone a long time. In the end that's why it took so long for us to dial our pick in.

Personally I thought we should of took Ingram, just because of his attitude and play hard personality.

Paully D

UCD AFC wrote: »

Having seen the draft pan out, in hindsight I would have loved for the Jets to move down anywhere in the 1st round, picking up extra picks and selecting Courtney Upshaw

Superb pick for my Ravens. Delighted with it.

phatkev

I was really happy with the Coples pick and he seems like a fantastic talent, I think Rex and Pettine can get the best out of him. The only thing i would be worried about is where the jets are going to play him in the 3-4 defence. As FreeOscar already stated reports about his final year of college ball were blown way out of proportion, and the problems he did encouter were mainly due to his postion being changed and a change in coachs

Silver-Tiger

Gents, could you kindly recommend some JETS twitter accounts worth following for a friend please?

Thanks for any replies.

JaMarcus Hustle

@ESPNNewYork and @espn_afceast are not strictly Jets accounts, but they are your best bets for Jets news.

@NMehta_NYDN is good for inside scoops. He writes for the New York Daily News, although his opinion pieces are dodgy (sent me a very angry private message when I laughed at his suggestion that Hakeem Nicks was average!) But he does get good news and coverage.

@JetsDraft then for generic draft stuff with a Jets slant on it.

phatkev

Brian Costello @BrianCoz usually gets is info fairly quick and accurate
Adam Schein @AdamSchein features all sports to do with NY
Conor Orr @ConorTOrr anything to do with sports in NY too

phatkev

Jeff Otah failed his first physical, now has 7 days to pass one or the trade falls through

gerire

Silver-Tiger wrote: »

Gents, could you kindly recommend some JETS twitter accounts worth following for a friend please?

Thanks for any replies.

@steiny31 - has some inside track to the front office, touts himself as a beat writer but has some stuff before its announced. Also pre draft had a massive depth chart done oout for all potentials. A must follow


Think that Otah move was low risk, high reward if it came off; Hunter was shocking last year and needs to be replaced; if Otah can get fit cool if not he can be sent back to CAR

gerire

Just been announced Otah has failed his physical and is heading back to the panthers.

Jets REALLY need someone other than Hunter here

LuckyLloyd

Unfortunately, upgrading on Hunter is easier said than done at this stage given the flexibility of the Front Office. Otah was a fine play, and I doubt there will be better options available at this stage tbh.

Paully D

How do you see the Tebow/Sanchez situation going this season lads?

UCD AFC

I am ever optimistic and see Tebow being used as a nice complement to Mark, who to me needs to step it up this season. Let the running game work and cut down on throwing interceptions should be his goals. Sanchez was always pretty good in the redzone though, so hopefully we don't automatically call on Tebow if Sanchez is putting together a nice drive. A lot will depend on the performances of our O-Line though.

FishHook

Paully D wrote: »

How do you see the Tebow/Sanchez situation going this season lads?

I don't understand the trade at all, and I'm am not too optimistic about it. If Sanchez gets off to a slow start, things could get ugly pretty quickly.

Danger_dave1

Paully D wrote: »

How do you see the Tebow/Sanchez situation going this season lads?

Its weird, if the sub packages that the jets will run with Tebow work out it will help Sanchez in the offense. If the sub packages don't work and Sanchez doesn't perform ?

How do they bring him in, its different than Denver, last season they refused to use him at all and Kyle Orton was left to implode while people kept calling for Tebow. If Tebow struggles in the wild cat and other packages then I cant see Tebow getting more than 2 or 3 starts at the end of season if we have a terrible season.

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Side note good article on gang green

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8192370/the-jets-had-tough-2011-was-anomaly-trend

Sounds promising for are defense this season.

I'm still worried about Landry working out at safety. He's only doing one or two practices a week with the team at the moment. Whether he will be able to get fully fit for the start of the season or make it a full a season is a doubt.

FishHook

Anyone care to hazard a guess on what the Jets regular season record will be this season? From what I can see we have a few holes on the team, that still have not been fully addressed, e,g at the WR and DE positions, although I have not been following the off-season all that closely.

I still think we can win 8 to 10 games, but I would be suprised if the Patriots did not win the division...yet again!!

Paully D

FishHook wrote: »

Anyone care to hazard a guess on what the Jets regular season record will be this season? From what I can see we have a few holes on the team, that still have not been fully addressed, e,g at the WR and DE positions, although I have not been following the off-season all that closely.

I still think we can win 8 to 10 games, but I would be suprised if the Patriots did not win the division...yet again!!

I'd guess at 8-8 again for the Jets this season. Maybe 9-7.

LuckyLloyd

Paully D wrote: »

I'd guess at 8-8 again for the Jets this season. Maybe 9-7.

This is either all going to click or blow up dreadfully imo. Fighting in training camp, players taking shots at each other through the press, a media scrum because of Tebow being on board, Revis unhappy about his contractual situation (and **** him on this one imo).

The easiest game in the first 7 weeks will probably be Indy at home. I would suggest that by the Bye week we will either be 6 - 2 or 2 - 6.

There is talent on the roster (barring the QB situation), but the right side of the line and pass rushing are valid concerns.

If it blows up and it sees the end of Sanchez and Ryan there will be plenty of silver lining...

corner back 2

Looks like the major concerns at safety from last season have not been addressed and the injury to smith increases the difficulties here. I feel that other teams will surely try to exploit this. This coupled with the concerns at offensive line makes me worry for the season ahead.

gerire

There seems to be so many injuries for the Jets tonight I'd nearly see keeping Sanchez off the field completely as a positive move as our weak o line is further weakened tonight.

HigginsJ

gerire wrote: »

There seems to be so many injuries for the Jets tonight I'd nearly see keeping Sanchez off the field completely as a positive move as our weak o line is further weakened tonight.

Whats injuries Jets facing. Giants down about 10 1st teamers/rotational players.

phatkev

Holmes, Kerley, Smith, Steed, Sapp, Schilens, Po'uha are the main ones out for tonight, im fairly the sure the o-line is fit bar hunter maybe

FishHook

Terrible result on Saturday :mad:!!!! I believe the O_line was rubbish again. Did any see the game? Where we as bad bad as the 26-3 scoreline suggests?

FreeOSCAR

FishHook wrote: »

Terrible result on Saturday :mad:!!!! I believe the O_line was rubbish again. Did any see the game? Where we as bad bad as the 26-3 scoreline suggests?

Yep we were atrocious on offense. Very good once again on defence.
Right now we must have one of the worst all round past protection units in the league. I'm worried Ferguson hasnt recovered from his mediocre season last year. Horrible pick six by Sanchez, once again staring down his receivers.

Anyways I'm off to the Panthers game on Sunday night.
Be wearing my Wayne Hunter jersey :pac:

FishHook

FreeOSCAR wrote: »

Anyways I'm off to the Panthers game on Sunday night.
Be wearing my Wayne Hunter jersey :pac:

Enjoy the game! Not sure if wearing a Wayne Hunter jersey is a good idea though !!

LuckyLloyd

Going to be a very, very long season.

gerire

As bad as last season was, i believe we were lucky to finish .500, this season thus far does not look great.

The draft was poor with little or no o line movement. Hunter has shown in the 1st 2 pre season games that he will struggle this year, he will not be cut as he was extended in Feb for 2.25 mil that would be too much $ to eat up; he may be put back into the tight end role again but I'd expect to see Howard there come week 1.

I worry about the initial reports that Tebow was brought in for the red-zone, that was one of Sanchez' strong points last year. He was in top 5 QB's in the league in the red-zone.

We have good QB in Sanchez, but he needs time, if the O-Line continues to resemble a turn-stile as it currently is neither Sanchez, tebow or the running backs will have time or space to create anything;

It will be interesting to see what Tanny and the front office do when the waivers come on stream next week;

Interesting stat. Over 500 players will see their last snaps this weekend before being released next week.

In summary: Thank fcuk we have such a good D

Danger_dave1

gerire wrote: »

As bad as last season was, i believe we were lucky to finish .500, this season thus far does not look great.


We have good QB in Sanchez, but he needs time, if the O-Line continues to resemble a turn-stile as it currently is neither Sanchez, tebow or the running backs will have time or space to create anything;

It will be interesting to see what Tanny and the front office do when the waivers come on stream next week;


In summary: Thank fcuk we have such a good D

Personally i don't see Sanchez as a franchise quarterback. He played well in offense that was built around running the ball and a dominant D. He was excellent in the redzone, but its the staring down receivers that kills me, he keeps doing it. He's not the quarterback you need when your down by 21 and he needs to pass 24 times in 2 quarters. Personally if he passes more than 20 times in a game I'm concerned.

I think are defense will improve this year and we'll win games from it, if are running game improves i see 9-7 ,10-6 . Remember we have an easy slate this year in the NFC West and AFC South.

If we have a poor season i really do hope that Rex isn't fired. He built up a team and got us into two AFC Championship games. Ye it sucks that were not playing to the same level but let him rebuild the team and get us back there..... I still think we'll have an above .500 record tho.

UCD AFC

I cannot put any blame on the RBs when our right tackle is this bad...it's almost a joke having WH out there

gerire

at the end of this season we are going to have to face the revis situation head on, and it will be expensive
also the following will be free agents come feb:
Brandon Moore, Dustin Keller, Mike Devito, Shonn Green, Aaron Maybin and Slauson

Nothing like a guy fighting for a contract to step up and perform for a season, hopefully.

UCD AFC

Austin Howard will start at RT against the Panthers.

LuckyLloyd

UCD AFC wrote: »

Austin Howard will start at RT against the Panthers.

We'll still have one of the worst starters in the league - he'll just have a different name.

Hunter should be cut either way imo. Just not up to it, might as well try people off waivers, etc for a fraction of the cost.

LuckyLloyd

Hunter traded to the Rams straight up for Jason Smith.

Former second pick overall, but likely to get beat like a drum most of the time. I guess it's an upgrade.

gerire

i believe its going to cost us 2mil in salary cap all for a guy who is going to play 'jumbo tight-end' - whatever the fcuk is
Hunter did have to go for his own sanity, maybe a change of scenery will work out for both of the guys, hopefully like before when we got Maybin from the Bills, thats gone ok.... so far. lets hope management can bring out the best in Smith

LuckyLloyd

FreeOSCAR

Was at the game on Sunday night (my first Jets game at Metlife), great experience and the atmosphere was decent for a preseason but I feel it's going to be a long season.
As of right now, our offense is atrocious.

Sanchez was getting awful abuse from the locals (unfairly for this game as I thought he played decent)
Few people booing Tebow as well though.

Thought Kendrick Ellis and Landry were the best players out there, our defense really contained Cam Newton for the most part but we need to improve our 3rd down defense.

Some pics of the game anyways.

Also on a side note the flight home was nearly half full of Notre Dame fans and a few Navy ones too. Roll on Saturday!

gerire

gerire wrote: »

i believe its going to cost us 2mil in salary cap all for a guy who is going to play 'jumbo tight-end' - whatever the fcuk is
Hunter did have to go for his own sanity, maybe a change of scenery will work out for both of the guys, hopefully like before when we got Maybin from the Bills, thats gone ok.... so far. lets hope management can bring out the best in Smith

Edit: not going to cost us any extra cap space. They made up the 1.55 and jets will pay the same 2.45 that was going to go to Hunter

Chardee MacDennis

Hey looks like I migh be heading to Meadowlands in December for the Chargers game, there seems to be plenty tickets available on the Jets' site but does anyone know how late I could leave it before I need to buy them?

Thanks!

LuckyLloyd

BastardPrince wrote: »

Hey looks like I migh be heading to Meadowlands in December for the Chargers game, there seems to be plenty tickets available on the Jets' site but does anyone know how late I could leave it before I need to buy them?

Thanks!

I'd avoid stubhub hell later and buy them now Ross. Can always sell them on without too much hassle closer to the time.

Chardee MacDennis

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I'd avoid stubhub hell later and buy them now Ross. Can always sell them on without too much hassle closer to the time.

cheers Lloyd, sounds like a plan! Will Tebow be the starter by then? :P

phatkev

Punter T.J Conley was was cut by the Jets today according to some of the beat writers

gerire

Signed Malone from the Chargers;

Also Aaitui who was shown on Hard Knocks last night being claimed has also been waived

We brought in Gates too from Dolphins; missed both of these moves last week

probably something to do with the beer, high school and Notre dame and Dublin games

phatkev

Great to see the Jets put in a top performance last night, the offense was on top of the the game especially in the first half. good to see Sachez stay on his feet for the whole game, showed when he gets protection he can make some real good throws. Tebow who:)

HigginsJ

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000065738/article/darrelle-revis-suffered-torn-acl-for-jets-needs-surgery?module=HP11_breaking_news

No Revis - No hope?

He is done for the season and will have suregery. Jets D looked poor when he was out against the Steelers week 2. How do Jets fans think this affects the season?

LuckyLloyd

HigginsJ wrote: »

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000065738/article/darrelle-revis-suffered-torn-acl-for-jets-needs-surgery?module=HP11_breaking_news

No Revis - No hope?

He is done for the season and will have suregery. Jets D looked poor when he was out against the Steelers week 2. How do Jets fans think this affects the season?

The season is now over. We just lost our best player upon whom our defensive game plan is largely built around. We're goosed.

Danger_dave1

Are defense was pretty good against the Steelers. The problem was the defense was on the field most of the second half because Sanchez kept going 3 and out. Eventually the D was out on its feet and gave up points plus Big Ben pulled some crazy plays out.

One thing is for sure, Sanchez was terrible. Yes some of the receivers dropped ball's but the 3rd and goal interception was shocking.

Rex Ryan is now going to be forced to send more blitzes with revis out. Are defense will still be good. However Revis out does screw us against the top off offenses.

8-8 ?

UCD AFC

I think it will be a frustrating season ending with 6/7 wins, with fans torn over whether they wanted playoffs or a better draft pick throughout the year...not just based on the injury but what we've seen so far