New York Jets Thread

franglan

I've always seen American football probably as my second/third team sport behind soccer and rugby but have been a big Jets fan for the guts of 12 years at this point. This year has been utterly disappointing. As a fan I felt fairly desolit Monday morning, the first quarter of Sunday's game was a new low. Geno wasn't the answer, ok he was probably value where he was picked but his two issues coming out of college, namely accuracy and staring down receivers/not going through his progression were all to see on Sunday. Don't know where we go from here. Start rebuilding now but with who? For me I would keep Rex but give him a 2-3 year contract, it sounds like madness but he needs to bring in an offensive coordinator better than Marty- I'm not convinced any decent OC wants to go to a team where the head coach could be out of there within a year, hence why we are stuck with Marty. We didn't address the DB positions in the off season, particularly at CB, Cromartie walked and was replaced with a fella who went AWOL before the season begun. Milliner is not going to be the stud the Jets drafted him to be. For me the GM hasn't done enough to keep his job, too slow in the off season to deal and apart from Richardson his drafting hasn't inspired confidence. It's fair to say Rex is an excellent DC, keep him in the job but give him a stable OC and some stability. The only concern I have in terms of next years draft is that apart from Mariota I'm not hugely impressed by anyone in this QB class (let's not draft Winston with all the baggage and the NY media and and the Jets), Mariota will be gone by the time the Jets are on the board so we trade up which is risky/costly or we are in limbo with the QB situ for another while.

phatkev

the performance last Sunday was Kotite era bad!!! as much as I love Rex i dont think he will be around next season and if the Jets are going to use another high pick on a QB I'd much rather a head coach that nurture a young QB, something that Rex never seemed to do. I dont think Idzik should be getting as much stick over the secondary, the top 3 CB's coming into the pre season were Milliner, McDougle and Patterson, two of them suffered season ending injuries and I don't think anyone could have foresaw what happened with Patterson. I think Pryor was a great pick but the depleted secondary has forced him to play in a position he's not fully familiar with, hence his not so spectacular start to the season. As for getting rid of Cro, he was garbage last season and no way deserved a new contract.you and answered your own question about the OC, No decent OC is going to want to go anywhere near that team!

But yeah this season has been so depressing and I have a feeling it wont be getting much better! 2015 Draft here we come

corner back 2

i have to agree about OC. Every year the cry is the same that if we had a decent OC we would be better. At some stage the Head Coach has to take responsibility. Also there seems to be very little player development and talent evaluation is very poor. As a keen college fan some of our lower round picks were crazy. I know they wanted to stockpile wide receivers but the picks were horrendous. It seems to be all based on measurables and no mention of intangibles such as leadership and willingness to learn and develop. The biggest example is not picking a developmental qb like McCarron or Arron Murray. Also the wide receivers picked were either small and fast or big and slow.

franglan

Have to agree on the development QB scenario, we took Boyd in the later rounds when rather than taking receiver after receiver in almost a "ah sure some might be good" fashion the Jets should have taken someone like Murray. Much better option I would think compared to Matt Simms who played very little college football. You could argue he would have been a viable option this season when Vick flames out!

phatkev

and the Jets secondary woes continue, Darrin Walls is out of tomorrows game so the active CBs now include Kyle Wilson,Philip Adams, Josh Thomas and Marcus Williams! the Chiefs are going to have a field day tomorrow:(

LuckyLloyd

I think it will be a hard sell to keep Ryan tbh. If he did a good job to achieve 8 - 8 last year he probably did a poor job to end up 8 - 8 in 2011. 2012 and 2014 just haven't been good enough.

It's just about worth talking about at all because you know that he's a coach at a level where you could win a superbowl if a magic wand was waved and we received a new top QB overnight.

If he was kept on I wouldn't mind, if he was let go I could accept it.

corner back 2

I have been reading the normal US commentators on the Jets such as Cimini and Mehta. I find it hard to figure out why they completely ignore the coaching failures and try to place all the blame at the feet of Idzik.

phatkev

why anyone still reads the absolute trash Dick Cimini and Manish put out is beyond me. They have to be two of the worst beat writers out there

corner back 2

Would agree with that but apart from TOJ there doesnt seem to be much else. Star Ledgers coverage not as good as it used to be.

phatkev

if you're on twitter you should give this guy a follow @DWAZ73. gets all the relative info out good and fast

phatkev

the Miami Herald is reporting that the fins and Jets will be one of the London games next year, it would be pretty class if true.

gerire

Delighted for this game next year, kinda gives us something to look forward to.

I've not posted here yet this season, it's been a bit of a disaster really. I can see Rex getting the bullet. He's been in charge for 90ish games now. Saying to the media to wait and see what happens in these last 7 games is bollix he took over a team that was mature and it's fallen apart. He never drafted o line support for Sanchez and mark took that bullet.

Idzic ignored the secondary in one draft, and it's been critical to us. His reliance on seattle for their outcasts tho. If money lynch is on the way out too will he be coming across country too? Are we going to go back to the last few years of a divided locker room.

Someone will get the bullet, maybe both, but when idzic came in people said he would be the one to stay at end of season no matter what as Rex was forced on him as head coach. We read the stories that the players love Rex. Well the defence certainly seems to.
Any way we can get him to take a step back to defensive coordinator? Cause if he is fired he will be picked up by another team but it'll only be in that role imo

hots

I think we need a clean break from Rex tbh, I think OC is nearly as important to get right next time too. Some infuriating play calls this year and no progression from Geno (or anyone else on offense really), in an ideal world we'll draft a QB and have a fresh HC and OC ready to actually build a team for them. Fingers crossed we keep being sh/te for the rest of the season and secure a nice high draft.

phatkev

gerire wrote: »

Idzic ignored the secondary in one draft, and it's been critical to us.

he has spent two first round picks on the secondary, hardly ignoring the position! I dont think any GM could have foreseen what happened with the secondary and he cant be blamed for it.

gerire wrote: »

Someone will get the bullet, maybe both, but when idzic came in people said he would be the one to stay at end of season no matter what as Rex was forced on him as head coach. We read the stories that the players love Rex. Well the defence certainly seems to.
Any way we can get him to take a step back to defensive coordinator? Cause if he is fired he will be picked up by another team but it'll only be in that role imo

Woody absolutely adores Rex so I'll never say never but I have a feeling he will be gone. no way he takes a DC role, he'll get snapped up as a HC in no time. I think Idzic will be there for at least another year with is own HC. But finding a HC willing to talk over in New York could be pretty difficult.

But yeah Wembley 2015:D:D

corner back 2

Hotel booked for wembley already! Does anyone know when the tickets will be on sale. Would love to be going to see Jets with new head coach and new quarterback.

gerire

corner back 2 wrote: »

Hotel booked for wembley already! Does anyone know when the tickets will be on sale. Would love to be going to see Jets with new head coach and new quarterback.

Season tickets for the 3 games in December

Individual games in January
Was the story I read on twitter. Is it worth the gamble on waiting on team returns? There was a load of great seats came back this year. I won't though, need the guarantee, going to look at hotels tonight myself flights too with the ireland Italy game on same day

FreeOSCAR

Done the Wembley season ticket package deal this season (Off to the Jags and Cowboys game on Sunday) but I cannot wait to see the Jets over here...In a divisional matchup no less against the Fins!

Will definitely be looking to get sideline tickets on the Jets side for this. The away team does be on the Sideline facing the South stand. Something to bear in mind when the tickets are going out.

Some other added bonuses - We are the first Wembley game of the year which hopefully means we get the Regent street treatment for the Saturday tailgate.
Wembley teams also always get tonnes of merchandise. Theres never much Jets items on sale but there will be a lot next year.

Here's hoping we have Mariota coming with us...Which would require us to win maximum 1 more game this season. :pac:

phatkev

Your AFC defensive player of the week, Mr Jaiquawn Jarrett:D:D

hots

phatkev wrote: »

Your AFC defensive player of the week, Mr Jaiquawn Jarrett:D:D

He had some game alright! See if Pryor reacts a bit now hopefully

corner back 2

FreeOSCAR wrote: »

Here's hoping we have Mariota coming with us...Which would require us to win maximum 1 more game this season. :pac:

Thats the one win gone now. Dont know if I would prefer mid table mediocraty to last place. Think the only thing a few more wins will do is to affect our draft pick.

In Exile

corner back 2 wrote: »

Thats the one win gone now. Dont know if I would prefer mid table mediocraty to last place. Think the only thing a few more wins will do is to affect our draft pick.

We are not gonna get the number 1 spot even if we lose all or games, because Oakland are as bad as I have ever seen.

Finishing with anything over 5 wins could kill us when it comes to draft picks. As bad as it sounds, I would much rather a top 5 pick, than winning a few meaningless games over the next couple of months.

As hard as it is to say, I want to finish 3-13. Win one game on December 21st at home to New England and hopefully knock them out of the playoffs.

Unfortunately, I think we can win 3 games. I think we win one of the next 2 against either Bills away or Miami at home. We win in Tennessee and beat New England.

A top 5 pick gives us a chance to trade up/down and still come out of this draft strongly.

phatkev

Ive seen the Jets fcuk up far to many drafts, so Ill take the wins whenever i can them. as you said a over the Pats is always essential, and i would love to end the fishes playoff hopes too . Theres also no point in spending another high on a young QB unless you've got someone that actually protect them!

hots

I can't see us getting too many more wins this year anyway to be honest, last week there were a few unexpected big individual performances that carried the team. I'm guessing a win at home to Miami and then to the Titans. Should keep us pretty high up the draft hopefully.

In Exile

Well, I'd have to assume that is the final nail in Rex's coffin.

35 point defeat when coming off a bye, against a team who haven't had a training session in over 10 days, until they got to Detroit.

7 sacks, 9 TFL, 3-15 on 3rd down. Our longest drive of the game was for 34 yards, and that ended in an Int.Giacomini was caught twice for false starts (mainly because Mario Williams killed him). Injuries to Wilkerson & Amaro (although no idea if they will be out or not)

Vick was 7-19 and an Int. If Decker caught the pass just before half time, maybe it would have been different. But that is really clutching at straws.

Special teams is rubbish.
A blocked punt for a TD
2 Muffed catches (Harvin & Connor)
I love watching Harvin, but he ran 4 balls out of the end zone, and the furthest he got was the 15 yard line.

I think this note from ESPN Gamecast sums it up: The Bills did not blitz Michael Vick once in the 1st half, despite still recording three sacks and two pressured pass attempts. The Jets blitzed 6 times. Orton was 6-of-6 for 74 yards against the blitz.

The "highlight" of the game was Geno's performance when he came in. 10 from 12, for 89 yards. But by that stage he was playing the second string.

I would really like to see Sims get a chance. Not next weekend, but if whoever starts against Miami doesn't perform, then I'd like to see Sims get a chance in Minnesota and Tennessee.

Prime time game next week against an impressive Miami team...... That will be fun

phatkev

and according to Rex the team were a "zillion" times better than the last time they faced the bills! the o-line is an absolute embarrassment, Colon is just a complete dumpster fire, Giacomini got turned inside out and should of had more than more the 2 false start penalties, I dont say this often but Brick was hopeless on the edge last night. So I say Fcuk wasting another high pick on a QB you cant protect and go for some help up front with someone like Cedric Ogbuehi or Brandon Scherff

phatkev

also Marty Mornhinweg and his fcuking wild cat need go!!

phatkev

Good read on Ricardsons year so far, its fairly GIF heavy though

http://turnonthejets.com/2014/12/new-york-jets-sheldon-richardson-getting-even-better/

franglan

Anyone thinking of going to the Jets-Dolphins game next October? Same day as the Ireland Italy rugby game too so you definitely be wearing green that day!

hots

We can't even lose when we're supposed to -_-

phatkev

Rex knows he's out. Why would he want to lose on purpose & help Jets in draft? Same with Geno. Why would he lose for Jets to draft a QB? Just as a matter of interest you would ye take if the Jets had the #2 pick as opposed to the #6