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Super Rugby [Super 15] - General Discussion Thread

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    #1562
    CatFromHue
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    DC may play for his local team next season too!


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    #1563
    Swiwi.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    pickarooney wrote: »
    Brain fart by Toomua.



    It's pretty bad alright.


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    #1564
    Swiwi.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    matthew8 wrote: »
    I hope the Reds can get at least a point against the Waratahs. Going to Christchurch would be terrifying for the Cheetahs, I'd feel much better against the Brumbies. Reds would be unfazed by the Crusaders, they always seem to beat NZ sides.

    So, do you reckon your team can do the biz in Canberra? The first thing is not to give the Brumbies easy points thru penalties, force them to create tries. I reckon you have a chance.


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    #1565
    matthew8
    Registered Users Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    It's probably a match-up of the 2 worst teams left in the comp. They can definitely do it, and if they're on their game they should win because the Brumbies have frequently looked very average.

    One thing that really annoys me is the time the games will be on at. Crusaders I can understand, but the timing of the Brumbies game is ridiculous. It should be on 3 or 4 hours later, as it is it's on at 4 pm Australian time, 6 am British time and 8 am SA time.


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    #1566
    Jacovs
    Registered Users Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭Jacovs


    matthew8 wrote: »
    It's probably a match-up of the 2 worst teams left in the comp. They can definitely do it, and if they're on their game they should win because the Brumbies have frequently looked very average.

    One thing that really annoys me is the time the games will be on at. Crusaders I can understand, but the timing of the Brumbies game is ridiculous. It should be on 3 or 4 hours later, as it is it's on at 4 pm Australian time, 6 am British time and 8 am SA time.

    Just to point out, SA and UK/Ireland are only 1 hour apart at the moment. So the Brumbies vs Cheetahs game is on at 7am here and 8am in SA. Not sure if the 1 hour later makes a difference, or makes it easier to get up for it. Also, its on at 6pm local Aus time.

    Would you not rather have played the Reds? Id judge them the weaker side, and you already beat them once this year, bit of a psycological edge.


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    #1567
    matthew8
    Registered Users Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Just to point out, SA and UK/Ireland are only 1 hour apart at the moment. So the Brumbies vs Cheetahs game is on at 7am here and 8am in SA. Not sure if the 1 hour later makes a difference, or makes it easier to get up for it. Also, its on at 6pm local Aus time.
    You're right about the British time, but I'm 99% sure it's on at 4 pm Australian time. Super rugby website is saying 6 am GMT (7 am BST) and 6 PM Australian time, which makes no sense. Planet-rugby has it right at 4 pm Australian time, which is GMT +8, unless it's actually on 2 hours later. You have to try and get up for the playoffs, but the great thing about watching super rugby in Ireland is you can just watch a recording without having to fear anybody telling you the result.
    Would you not rather have played the Reds? Id judge them the weaker side, and you already beat them once this year, bit of a psycological edge.

    Beat them at home. Would be far less confident away. Far more class in that team than the Brumbies.


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    #1568
    Jacovs
    Registered Users Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭Jacovs


    matthew8 wrote: »
    You're right about the British time, but I'm 99% sure it's on at 4 pm Australian time. Super rugby website is saying 6 am GMT (7 am BST) and 6 PM Australian time, which makes no sense. Planet-rugby has it right at 4 pm Australian time, which is GMT +8, unless it's actually on 2 hours later. You have to try and get up for the playoffs, but the great thing about watching super rugby in Ireland is you can just watch a recording without having to fear anybody telling you the result.


    Beat them at home. Would be far less confident away. Far more class in that team than the Brumbies.
    It depends which Australian time zone they are working from. Theres a difference of 2 hours between Perth and Canberra. So game is on 4pm Western Australia, but 6pm Eastern Australia where the game is being played.
    Im in work saturday 5am-12pm so no rugby for me, will have to follow text commentary on my phone, then maybe watch repeats at home after.

    Theres more class in the Reds, if their key players are firing on that day, but when they dont then the whole team is down. Brumbies are more consistent I think. Either way, if the Cheetahs are firing on the day then they can beat either.


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    #1569
    matthew8
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    Jacovs wrote: »
    It depends which Australian time zone they are working from. Theres a difference of 2 hours between Perth and Canberra. So game is on 4pm Western Australia, but 6pm Eastern Australia where the game is being played.
    Im in work saturday 5am-12pm so no rugby for me, will have to follow text commentary on my phone, then maybe watch repeats at home after.

    Theres more class in the Reds, if their key players are firing on that day, but when they dont then the whole team is down. Brumbies are more consistent I think. Either way, if the Cheetahs are firing on the day then they can beat either.

    It's actually 3 pm Perth and 5 pm Canberra/NSW. Think about it, East Australia is GMT +10, so 06:00 GMT translates to 16:00 in Canberra, plus the one hour will make it 5 pm.


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    #1570
    Jacovs
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    matthew8 wrote: »
    It's actually 3 pm Perth and 5 pm Canberra/NSW. Think about it, East Australia is GMT +10, so 06:00 GMT translates to 16:00 in Canberra, plus the one hour will make it 5 pm.

    lol these time zones seems to trip everyone up. Im checking the SuperXV website and on theirs it shows Kickoff in Australia (NSW/ACT) 18:10. Kick off in SA 08:10 and kick off in UK 07:10.

    So according to them UK and Canberra is 11 hours apart, but really its only 9 hours at the moment.

    4pm in Canberra kick off. Doesnt make a difference to the UK/Ireland kick off time at least.


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    #1571
    Judgement Day
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    All this confusion over times puts me in mind of this classic scene. :D

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZfQNvbSPF0


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    #1572
    Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny
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    Benji Marshall on his way to Union, Tahs and Blues been in contact apparently. Beale back at the Tahs whilst JOC in talks to return to Perth.


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    #1573
    Swiwi.
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    Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny wrote: »
    Benji Marshall on his way to Union, Tahs and Blues been in contact apparently. Beale back at the Tahs whilst JOC in talks to return to Perth.

    Marshall will go to Blues I reckon, will want a shot at an AB jersey. Blues apparently chasing Beauden Barrett hard, which is a good move. Beale to Tahs was predictable, and I'd say JOC will take what he can get.


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    #1574
    Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny
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    Le vieux renard wrote: »
    Marshall will go to Blues I reckon, will want a shot at an AB jersey. Blues apparently chasing Beauden Barrett hard, which is a good move. Beale to Tahs was predictable, and I'd say JOC will take what he can get.

    Blues stated they'd play him 15, in direct competition with Piutau there, Ben Smith and Dagg for AB spot, Barrett would be incredible coup should they pull it off, Noakes was doing well earlier in the campaign but fallen away of late, could do with another 10.


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    #1575
    Hagz
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    What's the story with Stephen Brett? Is he returning to NZ? I always thought he was a decent if unspectacular out-half.


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    #1576
    Swiwi.
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    Hagz wrote: »
    What's the story with Stephen Brett? Is he returning to NZ? I always thought he was a decent if unspectacular out-half.

    Too much coin in Japan I suspect. He mixed attacking brilliance with woeful defence and poor option-taking at times. Not sure there'd be too much interest in him at SXV level, but he'd no doubt find a willing taker at ITM cup level.


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    #1577
    pickarooney
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    How exactly does one pronounce 'Van Aswegen'? No matter how many times I hear it I can't figure out what sounds the commentator is making.


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    #1578
    danthefan
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    Is it not a bit unfair on amateurs to be playing against Richie McCaw for crying out loud?


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    #1579
    Jacovs
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    pickarooney wrote: »
    How exactly does one pronounce 'Van Aswegen'? No matter how many times I hear it I can't figure out what sounds the commentator is making.

    Haha my gf cant do the g sound either. She says it sounds like we are trying to bring up phlem.


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    #1580
    CatFromHue
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    danthefan wrote: »
    Is it not a bit unfair on amateurs to be playing against Richie McCaw for crying out loud?

    The guys he'll be playing against will be fairly fit, not like a pro now, but still be pretty tough.

    I'd say they'd love it and it's only 1 guy too.

    When I played U20's the games against UCD were frankly unfair due to the calibre of the Ireland and Leinster guys who were playing for UCD.


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    #1581
    astonaidan
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    CatFromHue wrote: »
    The guys he'll be playing against will be fairly fit, not like a pro now, but still be pretty tough.

    I'd say they'd love it and it's only 1 guy too.

    When I played U20's the games against UCD were frankly unfair due to the calibre of the Ireland and Leinster guys who were playing for UCD.

    My local team played against Keith Earls at U20 level when he was about 18, 20 mins in he had scored 3 tries and he went off, only losing by 10 points in the end. He was a different class


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    #1582
    CatFromHue
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    astonaidan wrote: »
    My local team played against Keith Earls at U20 level when he was about 18, 20 mins in he had scored 3 tries and he went off, only losing by 10 points in the end. He was a different class

    You've put it right up to the G.O.A.T. there


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    #1583
    pickarooney
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    Jacovs wrote: »
    Haha my gf cant do the g sound either. She says it sounds like we are trying to bring up phlem.

    It's not the G but the bit between the S and the G. I can speak fluent Dutch but that vowel combo is just beyond me :D


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    #1584
    Jacovs
    Registered Users Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭Jacovs


    pickarooney wrote: »
    It's not the G but the bit between the S and the G. I can speak fluent Dutch but that vowel combo is just beyond me :D
    The "we"?
    Not sure how to explain how to pronounce it. Just that its not we lol


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    #1585
    sydthebeat
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    Reds versus crusaders starting now.

    Cooper v carter alone is worth the viewing, but theres so much quality on the field I'm soo looking forward to this.

    Oh and some young lad called mccaw on the bench for the crusaders....


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    #1586
    Swiwi.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    Come on you boys in red & black, you boys in red & black!


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    #1587
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Ah it's nice to be relaxing in my nice air conditioned office watching Quade Cooper getting smashed a few times.


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    #1588
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Really nice line there from Crotty. Defender managed to turn himself inside out.


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    #1589
    Swiwi.
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Really nice line there from Crotty. Defender managed to turn himself inside out.

    He's had a fantastic season. He must be in the selectors minds for higher honours, but he's probably not quite there.


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    #1590
    Judgement Day
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    21-6 at the break with two fine tries from Crotty and Carter. Crusaders on fire and unlucky not to be further ahead. :D


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    #1591
    Swiwi.
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    Judgement Day wrote: »
    21-6 at the break with two fine tries from Crotty and Carter. Crusaders on fire and unlucky not to be further ahead. :D

    Reds seem clueless, somewhat shell-shocked. Crusaders always seem to time their run nicely. Hopefully Cheetahs can defeat Brumbies, and avoid a Chiefs v Crusaders semi. When will Rutchie come off the bench?

    (assuming there is no 2nd half revival from the Reds...)


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