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    #3182
    Evade
    Registered Users Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Evade


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Except that they made a big deal that she make the decision on the Deck and how it was so hard for her. FFS she was already a lieutenant, she would have to know the score already.
    I mean realising that the thing you want might result in you having to order a friend or colleague to their death probably isn't an easy thing to come to terms with. Also she was a therapist, it's not uncommon for medical personnel to have a different promotion track as opposed to line officers.
    Deleted User wrote: »
    FFS Wesley got a much more convincing one during his academy test (another ridiculous episode to be fair, how only one position was available for 4 mega genius kids was stupid)
    The more stupid thing in that episodes was some species in Starfleet get a pass at being absolute assholes and the humans (and presumable other more even tempered species) have to adjust.


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    #3183
    Indricotherium
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Indricotherium


    Kiith wrote: »
    I was gonna say the same thing about that episode earlier. How does having to order a hologram to his "death" mean you would be able to order your friend to his death?

    I don't know....people get fairly immersed in computer games as it is.

    World of warcraft is a good example. People go mental for it.

    I imagine it would be fairly easy to become completely immersed in a 100% realistic simulation of your closest friends.

    As a side note, I love how the people writing next gen felt the need, in a series set in space, where there is literally no boundary to where you can go with the story, to include the holodeck.


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    #3184
    ScumLord
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    Kiith wrote: »
    Holodecks would be freakin amazing though. Utterly impossible in real life, but maybe VR will eventually get there.
    I reckon we'll see a merging of VR and AR, VR isn't relevant to most people but I can see AR becoming as common as mobile phones. Of course it would never be able to give the full holodeck experience but I reckon within 10 years we'll have a very immersive VR/AR experience.

    AR could be another death nail in the consumer market. If you can watch TV in AR and share the same experience with others there's really no need to own a TV. Billboards could be replaced with AR triggers, a load of devices could become redundant with AR.


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    #3185
    [Deleted User]
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    Evade wrote: »


    The more stupid thing in that episodes was some species in Starfleet get a pass at being absolute assholes and the humans (and presumable other more even tempered species) have to adjust.


    Very human-centric ha, Vulcans could say the same about humans.


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    #3186
    The_Valeyard
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    Evade wrote: »
    That's what I wrote. Inviere questioned whether Nog's promotion was permanent because there was no graduation ceremony. I pointed out there was a war on etc and thatusually when a character gets promoted there's no ceremony shown and listed the exceptions I could think of off the top of my head.

    plus, Good chance he'd be dead soon.


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    #3187
    Grandeeod
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    Which TV reboot of Star Trek featured an episode that integrated with the original series?


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    #3188
    [Deleted User]
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    Grandeeod wrote: »
    Which TV reboot of Star Trek featured an episode that integrated with the original series?

    "Trouble with Tribbles" in DS9


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    #3189
    Grandeeod
    Registered Users Posts: 12,119 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    Deleted User wrote: »
    "Trouble with Tribbles" in DS9

    Cheers. Have it all on Netflix, so want to see it again. Couldn't remember the particular series.


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    #3190
    Beefy78
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    "Trouble with Tribbles" in DS9

    Trials and Tribble-ations ;)


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    #3191
    Indricotherium
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    Grandeeod wrote: »
    Cheers. Have it all on Netflix, so want to see it again. Couldn't remember the particular series.

    A mirror darkly in enterprise is much better


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    #3192
    degrassinoel
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    Indricotherium wrote: »
    A mirror darkly in enterprise is much better

    It's really not. Of all the enterprise episodes, they were the worst.
    Bakula just cant do a bad guy at all.

    The only thing they got right was removing that faith of the arse song from the intro.


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    #3193
    The_Valeyard
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    degrassinoel wrote: »
    It's really not. Of all the enterprise episodes, they were the worst.
    Bakula just cant do a bad guy at all.

    The only thing they got right was removing that faith of the arse song from the intro.

    nah, that was a good episode(s)


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    #3194
    Indricotherium
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    degrassinoel wrote: »
    Of all the enterprise episodes, they were the worst.

    Space nazis?

    Riker?

    the temporal cold war?

    Seriously, the worst?


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    #3195
    Indricotherium
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    Indricotherium wrote: »
    Space nazis?

    Riker?

    the temporal cold war?

    Seriously, the worst?

    The most baffling thing about Enterprise was the decision to introduce a series specific antagonist race.

    absolutely bizarre decision.


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    #3196
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    Indricotherium wrote: »
    Space nazis?

    Riker?

    the temporal cold war?

    Seriously, the worst?


    I get what he is saying though.
    Bakula's idae of being evil was to over pronounce everything and puff out his cheeks at the end of every sentence


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    #3197
    degrassinoel
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    Indricotherium wrote: »
    Space nazis?

    Riker?

    the temporal cold war?

    Seriously, the worst?

    You're counting the last episode with Riker?

    The temporal cold war was the theme throughout the series, ye couldn't escape it. Like it or not, that was the stage the play was acted on.

    Bakula does a decent goodguy, he's totally miscast as a badguy, anybody else could have been the captain in the mirror universe, or nobody would have made more sense with all that backstabbing.


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    #3198
    The_Valeyard
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    The worst episode in the history of Trek is the finale for Enterprise.

    Worse than Fairhaven,

    Worse than Up the Long Ladder

    Worse than Spock's Brain

    So bad, it never happened.

    IT NEVER HAPPENED.


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    #3199
    Kiith
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    The finale of Enterprise wasn't the worst episode imo. The others you listed are all far worse than it is. Along with Sub Rosa.

    It is however the worst idea they've ever had. For a finale to end like that was just a slap in the face to the entire show, and i can't understand what made them think it would be ok.


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    #3200
    Evade
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    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    The worst episode in the history of Trek is the finale for Enterprise.

    Worse than Fairhaven,

    Worse than Up the Long Ladder

    Worse than Spock's Brain

    So bad, it never happened.

    IT NEVER HAPPENED.
    Threshold is the worst. It got written out of continuity for being so bad.


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    #3201
    The_Valeyard
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    Kiith wrote: »
    The finale of Enterprise wasn't the worst episode imo. The others you listed are all far worse than it is. Along with Sub Rosa.

    It is however the worst idea they've ever had. For a finale to end like that was just a slap in the face to the entire show, and i can't understand what made them think it would be ok.

    the fact it's a series finale makes is extra bad.

    I can forgive mid-season sh*te like Troy's child, that warp 10 episode, etc.

    But to end a show watched for four seasons like that, makes it the worst and lowest of the low.


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    #3202
    degrassinoel
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    which one was sub rosa?

    ah yeah, tng beverley's sex ghost - yeah, that was pretty bad xD


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    #3203
    degrassinoel
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    Out of all the series' mirror universes, which was the worst?

    dont forget voyager had one too - kind of, with the EMH setting things straight - except it was history being written by the victor rather than mirror universe, close enough :P


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    #3204
    Evade
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    degrassinoel wrote: »
    Out of all the series' mirror universes, which was the worst?
    The one where Bariel and the Intendant come to the prime universe, if that counts.


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    #3205
    degrassinoel
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    Evade wrote: »
    The one where Bariel and the Intendant come to the prime universe, if that counts.

    in fairness to bariel, he acted that part way better than his original, he even got to nick worf's mek'leth from right under his nose


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    #3206
    IvySlayer
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    I'll be honest and say I usually skip DS9s mirror universe storylines, just never got into them.


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    #3207
    Indricotherium
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    IvySlayer wrote: »
    I'll be honest and say I usually skip DS9s mirror universe storylines, just never got into them.

    The emperors new cloak is brilliant.

    Rom trying work out the mirror universe is some of the best at that exists.


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    #3208
    Kiith
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    There is the one with Vic Fontaine being a real person and getting killed at some stage. Think it was the last one in DS9. That was odd.


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    #3209
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users Posts: 10,737 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    spotted Dr. Pulaski in TOS last night looking super hot - that voice just did not change over the years
    She was in it in two different episodes apparently


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    #3210
    Daith
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    Evade wrote: »
    The one where Bariel and the Intendant come to the prime universe, if that counts.

    It's a bad episode but the bit where Kira drags Bariel all over the station to get some exercise is good.

    I think the last Mirror Ep was def the worst. Threw out any subtly that was left.


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    #3211
    Beefy78
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    The Mirror Universe episodes just piss me off. I'm sure they were fun for the actors but they push the boundaries of reality way past the point of bursting even for Star Trek. It just sucks me out of the show.


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