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anyone have good/bad experience at Foregolf?
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22-11-2011 8:01pm#1
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Osgoodisgood wrote: »No. His point seemed to be that the "great experience" someone had was BS. As this is an entirely subjective thing I wondered whether he had any experience at Foregolf of his own. If you're guessing that I doubt he's actually been there you'd be right. My suspicions were further aroused when he inferred that the fitting was "a sales guy being nice to him". My (actual) experience is that Derek and Dave, whilst being very nice guys, don't apply the snake oil at all.
There's a lot more to working with professional golf equipment technicians than someone telling you that "you hooked that one". Do you really think Sergio etc come to Foregolf for that kind of feedback?
Right lets get your suspicions cleared up Inspector Clouseau :rolleyes:
No where have I implied that Foregolf do a bad job. But lets be clear, they are a business and in business to make money; so yes the guys doing the fittings are essentially salesmen too.
What I think is BS is the same old tired posts about having a great experience getting fitted. I should hope so, you have just paid 100 quid for the privilege and you don't even get the results of a fitting you have paid for after (by the way i'm not getting into a debate on their business model either). O and yes I have been fitted by Foregolf, I found the experience good but I am under no illusions, unlike yourself. I paid a premium, in order for them to sell me the clubs they recommended for me.
The objective of getting fitted is to improve your game, ultimately reflected in the scores you shoot and not to have a nice day out. The point I made was how can you say that it is worth every penny getting fitted when their is no evidence it improved your game.
As for Sergio getting fitted there, I assuming he was in the day you were there
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The fitting was worth the €100 I meant. Jury is still out on the clubs which were a gift. At the end of the day customer service is a big part of it and that's what I base the being worth every penny comment on. An hour hitting shaft and head combos unavailable anywhere else in my vicinity with feedback and explanations of the different combinations pro's and con's by a nice guy who knows what he's talking about. That to me was worth the €100 but to each his own.
That's fair enough but surely the ultimate goal of getting fitted, is to improve your scores and not have a nice time. I can think of better ways to waste a 100 euro
Like you said though, each to their own, but keep us informed on how you get on.0 -
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bustercherry wrote: »That's fair enough but surely the ultimate goal of getting fitted, is to improve your scores and not have a nice time. I can think of better ways to waste a 100 euro
Like you said though, each to their own, but keep us informed on how you get on.
The original message was a little confused. The proof is in the scores and I'll keep that in mind.0 -
Whilst I don't doubt Sergio visited Foregolf (actually, I don't know, or care, either way
), I do find it hard to believe it was purely for a fit and that there wasn't some other marketing/promotional motivation behind it. I can't imagine the TaylorMade facility in Carlsbad being inferior to the setup in Foregolf to be honest.
Thats not to knock Foregolf in the slightest, I'm sure they do a good job and lots of people have great things to say about them. The reason I won't use them is the whole "not getting your specs" issue. If I pay for a fit I should be given the specs IMO - thats what I'm buying from them, the fitting and results. I'd think differently if the fit was part of the purchase price of any clubs, but from what I can gather its not, and IMO the purchase of clubs should be a separate transaction.
As regards fitting in general, its probably a good thing for most people to have done. There's always going to be a subjective element as to whether its worth it though. A bad swing will produce a bad shot no matter what, but ultimately in golf the aim of any fitting or lessons is to make your bad shots better (or less bad), your good shots will still be good. You're probably not going to start peppering the pins just because you got irons fitted.
eg if you've had a fitting you may be more confident with, say, your driver and that in itself might mean you hit 1 less bad drive than normal. That in turn might lead to hitting 2 less bad drives over time etc etc, which will lead to a few more greens hit...........you get the picture.
I recently had a fitting with Titleist in Carton House and think it was well worth it (I can't quantify just yet due to lack of golf with the weather), but in the few rounds I have managed to squeeze in I'm definitely hitting a few more fairways than I would normally do which in turn is improving my scores, driving has been my nemesis for the last few years !!
I also picked up approx 12-15 yards on my 6 iron by using a different shaft, this was actually where I was really amazed at the results.
All in all, I think a fitting is definitely a good exercise but you shouldn't expect miracles unless you've been using clubs that are totally and utterly wrong for you. Of course you might not know they are until you get fitted
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Whilst I don't doubt Sergio visited Foregolf (actually, I don't know, or care, either way), I do find it hard to believe it was purely for a fit and that there wasn't some other marketing/promotional motivation behind it. I can't imagine the TaylorMade facility in Carlsbad being inferior to the setup in Foregolf to be honest.
Thats not to knock Foregolf in the slightest, I'm sure they do a good job and lots of people have great things to say about them. The reason I won't use them is the whole "not getting your specs" issue. If I pay for a fit I should be given the specs IMO - thats what I'm buying from them, the fitting and results. I'd think differently if the fit was part of the purchase price of any clubs, but from what I can gather its not, and IMO the purchase of clubs should be a separate transaction.
As regards fitting in general, its probably a good thing for most people to have done. There's always going to be a subjective element as to whether its worth it though. A bad swing will produce a bad shot no matter what, but ultimately in golf the aim of any fitting or lessons is to make your bad shots better (or less bad), your good shots will still be good. You're probably not going to start peppering the pins just because you got irons fitted.
eg if you've had a fitting you may be more confident with, say, your driver and that in itself might mean you hit 1 less bad drive than normal. That in turn might lead to hitting 2 less bad drives over time etc etc, which will lead to a few more greens hit...........you get the picture.
I recently had a fitting with Titleist in Carton House and think it was well worth it (I can't quantify just yet due to lack of golf with the weather), but in the few rounds I have managed to squeeze in I'm definitely hitting a few more fairways than I would normally do which in turn is improving my scores, driving has been my nemesis for the last few years !!
I also picked up approx 12-15 yards on my 6 iron by using a different shaft, this was actually where I was really amazed at the results.
All in all, I think a fitting is definitely a good exercise but you shouldn't expect miracles unless you've been using clubs that are totally and utterly wrong for you. Of course you might not know they are until you get fitted
Spot on russman totally agree especially with your point that the sale of equipment should be a completely separate transaction.
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bustercherry wrote: »Right lets get your suspicions cleared up Inspector Clouseau :rolleyes:
No where have I implied that Foregolf do a bad job. But lets be clear, they are a business and in business to make money; so yes the guys doing the fittings are essentially salesmen too.
What I think is BS is the same old tired posts about having a great experience getting fitted. I should hope so, you have just paid 100 quid for the privilege and you don't even get the results of a fitting you have paid for after (by the way i'm not getting into a debate on their business model either). O and yes I have been fitted by Foregolf, I found the experience good but I am under no illusions, unlike yourself. I paid a premium, in order for them to sell me the clubs they recommended for me.
The objective of getting fitted is to improve your game, ultimately reflected in the scores you shoot and not to have a nice day out. The point I made was how can you say that it is worth every penny getting fitted when their is no evidence it improved your game.
As for Sergio getting fitted there, I assuming he was in the day you were there
It's a shame you didn't get more out of your fitting with them and I'm glad you don't share my illusions whatever you think they may be. You also seem to have me confused with someone else who has seen no evidence of improvement since visiting Foregolf. I've enjoyed solid improvement. But to each his own I guess.0 -
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Im going to Foregolf tomorrow, and on the point of Sergio using foregolf instead of taylormades facility.....Well i also have taylormades tour dept at my disposal for free if i want it. And after using them for some of my equipment, im now going to foregolf to pay for my equipment to be sorted...
Il report back with my experience tomorrow night, but on past visits ive had nothing but good results......0 -
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