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Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

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    #1022
    Salerchamp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭Salerchamp


    New Dovea 2016 catalogue is out. I can't have it as a link as I'm a new user but check their facebook page for it!


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    #1023
    Kovu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Salerchamp wrote: »
    New Dovea 2016 catalogue is out. I can't have it as a link as I'm a new user but check their facebook page for it!

    Here ye go

    http://issuu.com/doveagenetics/docs/dovea_beef_catalogue_2016/1


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    #1024
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,229 ✭✭✭tanko


    Fine catalogue, i see a boardsie has a pic of one of their calves in it:cool:


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    #1025
    Canaryblue
    Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭Canaryblue


    They've included both of the Charolais they bought at the Christmas Cracker, would anyone try either of these on test?

    Edit: Just noticed the straws of either won't be available till May


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    #1026
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,711 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Seeing that everyone is having a bash at APZ. Here is one bull I had by him this year. 400Kgs and €880 when sold.
    Born 28 Feb 2015, sold 24 Nov 2015.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #1027
    Limestone Cowboy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,527 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    tanko wrote: »
    Fine catalogue, i see a boardsie has a pic of one of their calves in it:cool:

    Wasn't expecting to see that :D


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    #1028
    Kovu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    tanko wrote: »
    Fine catalogue, i see a boardsie has a pic of one of their calves in it:cool:

    Who's that now? Or the bull at least!


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    #1029
    Limestone Cowboy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,527 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Kovu wrote: »
    Who's that now? Or the bull at least!

    Mine :D vagabond calf!


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    #1030
    Kovu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Limestone Cowboy wrote: »
    Mine :D vagabond calf!

    Nice fella! Did they let you know at least?


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    #1031
    Limestone Cowboy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,527 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Kovu wrote: »
    Nice fella! Did they let you know at least?

    No, I sent it to them on fb a few months back. Just went on for a snoop when Tanko said there was a boardsie calf on it. Wasn't expecting to see him pop up in front of me.


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    #1032
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,711 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    tanko wrote: »
    Fine catalogue, i see a boardsie has a pic of one of their calves in it:cool:
    Jeez, you don't miss much.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #1033
    Salerchamp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭Salerchamp


    I see another Vantastic son has been added to the books..... Limousin breeding will be getting very narrow if they keep using bulls from similar blood lines


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    #1034
    annubis
    Registered Users Posts: 432 ✭✭annubis


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7Z-9y6KILQ
    Blelack digger, 50 euros a straw
    he doesnt look mighty in this video but seems to score highly on eurostar, anyone using him on PB charolais?
    is lisnagre handsome gone from dovea catalogue, thought he looked a nice bull


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    #1035
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,229 ✭✭✭tanko


    Has anyone any experience of using the Limousin bull Gamin (ZGM) from Bova? He's the top ranked terminal bull across all breeds on the ICBF active bull list. He has serious terminal figures and is easy calved, only 4.6% at 91% reliability.


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    #1036
    welton john
    Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭welton john


    tanko wrote: »
    Has anyone any experience of using the Limousin bull Gamin (ZGM) from Bova? He's the top ranked terminal bull across all breeds on the ICBF active bull list. He has serious terminal figures and is easy calved, only 4.6% at 91% reliability.

    have 2 heifers off him from fr cows so prob not much help to you. they were v easy calved tho and at 3 weeks old showing nice muscle more so than other lims used before.lovely hips to them too.will try him on some hca second calvers this year to put a bit of style into them.


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    #1037
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,229 ✭✭✭tanko


    welton john wrote: »
    have 2 heifers off him from fr cows so prob not much help to you. they were v easy calved tho and at 3 weeks old showing nice muscle more so than other lims used before.lovely hips to them too.will try him on some hca second calvers this year to put a bit of style into them.

    That's good, he seems to have the unusual combination of being a high muscle bull which is also easy calved. What do you think of your HCA heifers, I've come to the conclusion that HCA breeds better Bulls than heifers.


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    #1038
    Sheep breeder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    tanko wrote: »
    Has anyone any experience of using the Limousin bull Gamin (ZGM) from Bova? He's the top ranked terminal bull across all breeds on the ICBF active bull list. He has serious terminal figures and is easy calved, only 4.6% at 91% reliability.

    we had a Gamin heifer calf born 3 weeks ago to big ped cow, very handy born calf just fell out of the cow and after a week just started to take off and has serious backend and lots of style, a freind also has some on the ground and serious calves, we are going to use him on the char and lim maiden heifers this year,


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    #1039
    welton john
    Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭welton john


    tanko wrote: »
    That's good, he seems to have the unusual combination of being a high muscle bull which is also easy calved. What do you think of your HCA heifers, I've come to the conclusion that HCA breeds better Bulls than heifers.

    We have a few of them from dairy herd every year and the same two lads come to buy them every year either calved or incalf.Have calved down 10 - 15 of them the last few years and theyre definately not the prettiest to look at but make up for it in other areas. very milky , quiet, they are much better calvers than they look too.some have been mad after calving but i guess that could be said for any breed. have two suckler bred ones calving this year and ill prob keep them
    edit : we sell any bulls at a few weeks so couldnt comment on them


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    #1040
    Mac Taylor
    Registered Users Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Mac Taylor


    tanko wrote: »
    Has anyone any experience of using the Limousin bull Gamin (ZGM) from Bova? He's the top ranked terminal bull across all breeds on the ICBF active bull list. He has serious terminal figures and is easy calved, only 4.6% at 91% reliability.

    Bova are trying to push his breeding with pedigree breeders, know a few lads that have got a few calls from bova wondering had they looked him up and would they buy his straws, there was a question about his docility but it seems he is OK on that aswell.


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    #1041
    Mac Taylor
    Registered Users Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Mac Taylor


    welton john wrote: »
    We have a few of them from dairy herd every year and the same two lads come to buy them every year either calved or incalf.Have calved down 10 - 15 of them the last few years and theyre definately not the prettiest to look at but make up for it in other areas. very milky , quiet, they are much better calvers than they look too.some have been mad after calving but i guess that could be said for any breed. have two suckler bred ones calving this year and ill prob keep them
    edit : we sell any bulls at a few weeks so couldnt comment on them

    Great to hear, have 4 of them that I am hoping to bull this year.


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    #1042
    sonnybill
    Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    OZS limo is a great bull IMO. I have a 5 star black daughter of his due this week and she letting down a lovely springing .. She out of a BB cow that has good milk also but lovely springing for a heifer . I had good muscley bull calf by OZS also


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    #1043
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users Posts: 5,057 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    tanko wrote: »
    That's good, he seems to have the unusual combination of being a high muscle bull which is also easy calved. What do you think of your HCA heifers, I've come to the conclusion that HCA breeds better Bulls than heifers.

    Really. I've only the one HCA heifer calved so far but I can't fault her


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    #1044
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,229 ✭✭✭tanko


    My experience of HCA heifers is that they are inclined to have poor docility and their calving ability isn't great. ICBF figures say the same also.

    I've always sold the bull calves as weanlings and looking at my ICBF profile they almost always kill out as U grades, even a few U+ grades and at heavy weights too. That's my two cents worth anyway.


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    #1045
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,229 ✭✭✭tanko


    sonnybill wrote: »
    OZS limo is a great bull IMO. I have a 5 star black daughter of his due this week and she letting down a lovely springing .. She out of a BB cow that has good milk also but lovely springing for a heifer . I had good muscley bull calf by OZS also

    Yeah, he's a super bull, works best on bigger cows i find. What bull is the heifer in calf to?


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    #1046
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Anybody got any recommendations for a belgian blue with ok calving figures?

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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    #1047
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users Posts: 5,057 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    GEU from progressive 5 stars across the board.

    SRI if you can get straws

    DBZ


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    #1048
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,229 ✭✭✭tanko


    SFL from Bova is only 5.5% calving difficulty, STQ from NCBC is popular also. There's a fair bit of info about both on here.


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    #1049
    welton john
    Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭welton john


    got good calves off atg last year v easy calved. nicer calves than dbz imo


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    #1050
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Thanks lads, looking for something for the u 16mth job, under 10% calving difficulty, lower if possible. where would I find 250-350 day live weights?

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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    #1051
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,711 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Thanks lads, looking for something for the u 16mth job, under 10% calving difficulty, lower if possible. where would I find 250-350 day live weights?

    Download the top link here. Its an MS Excel file with all the data. Have a look under Weanling weights and weanling prices. That should give you an idea.

    http://www.icbf.com/?page_id=200

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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