Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

Hard Knocks

390kid wrote: »

Progressive. Wouldn’t mind something to inject a bit of size and milk

Lzf definitely adds length and someone else mentioned he adds milk
Ludwig would be another option to add size

Personally I’d like a Gurka daughter

RD10

Anyobe that can recommend an easy calving charlaois with bova?
Usually use PG here, AI man not around this weekend

Lady Haywire

RD10 wrote: »

Anyobe that can recommend an easy calving charlaois with bova?
Usually use PG here, AI man not around this weekend

Used Alwent Hitman a couple of times here, the polled is handy too. Kept a cow off him too and has a good drop of milk. Bit light in the bone perhaps.

Hard Knocks

RD10 wrote: »

Anyobe that can recommend an easy calving charlaois with bova?
Usually use PG here, AI man not around this weekend

Heard good reviews on Mark
What about the Cloughbrack bull?

tanko

Sicilien from Dovea is a right good bull and easy calved.

Hard Knocks

tanko wrote: »

Sicilien from Dovea is a right good bull and easy calved.

Is he preorder

tanko

Not sure, bought some straws of him a few years ago. He has an S code so maybe he is pre order.

RD10

Cheers all, had checked out the few mentioned above in the catalogue.
Ended up going with the limousin bull Hellios to be on the safe side this time as im not too familiar with bova. Cow is a good shapey cow and breeds a nice shapey calf no matter what bull used.
Would have gone with fiston had regular ai man been around.

rushvalley

Has anyone on here used any of the blonde bulls from dovea? Or have pictures of blonde calves out of black whitehead/ grey ch cows? Thanks.

390kid

Got a letter from icbf today claiming wrong parentage of a heifer? It’s meant to be fleetwood but there claiming it’s zag? Is this common or what’s after happening?

390kid

charolais0153 wrote: »

Sounds like your looking for a simmental;)

Was thinking that way but we’ve a good few black cows. Would ya still get the nice red colour?

tanko

Ai technicians sometimes mix up straws. Left a heifer for Ai here a few years ago, told Ai man to put Highfield Odran on her, came home, happened to check discarded straw in the crush, it was DEP, lucky i checked.

SA2153 the Saler Odran and SI2152 the Sim Earp have been mixed up here also.

What colour is your calf?

tanko

390kid wrote: »

Was thinking that way but we’ve a good few black cows. Would ya still get the nice red colour?

Colour wise putting Sims on black cows isn't a great cross, you often end up with brown/grey coloured calves.

charolais0153

390kid wrote: »

Was thinking that way but we’ve a good few black cows. Would ya still get the nice red colour?

Doubt it highly

fanmanad

rushvalley wrote: »

Has anyone on here used any of the blonde bulls from dovea? Or have pictures of blonde calves out of black whitehead/ grey ch cows? Thanks.

Have blonde twins from a black Whitehead cow and they came grey. They out of pg bull inzagi. Cow is si/lm

Donegalforever

tanko wrote: »

Colour wise putting Sims on black cows isn't a great cross, you often end up with brown/grey coloured calves.

I had a lovely red and white Simmental bull calf, last year, out of a very black AAx cow. (Limousin calves out of the same cow are red in colour).

390kid

tanko wrote: »

Ai technicians sometimes mix up straws. Left a heifer for Ai here a few years ago, told Ai man to put Highfield Odran on her, came home, happened to check discarded straw in the crush, it was DEP, lucky i checked.

SA2153 the Saler Odran and SI2152 the Sim Earp have been mixed up here also.

What colour is your calf?

The calf is a orange colour out of a mousey grey cow.

tanko

Donegalforever wrote: »

I had a lovely red and white Simmental bull calf, last year, out of a very black AAx cow. (Limousin calves out of the same cow are red in colour).

Yeah, it’s not set in stone. Depends on the colours in the back breeding of the cow i suppose.
Put three Sim bulls on black cows here last year, a black Saler, black Lim and black Angus crosses, all the resulting calves are that horrible grey/brown color. Won’t be doing that again.

squinn2912

tanko wrote: »

Yeah, it’s not set in stone. Depends on the colours in the back breeding of the cow i suppose.
Put three Sim bulls on black cows here last year, a black Saler, black Lim and black Angus crosses, all the resulting calves are that horrible grey/brown color. Won’t be doing that again.

Would the sim bulls be more likely to have weak colouring in that they’d follow the mother or cone out the dreaded grey? A load of our black lim cows have red calves off the lim bull

squinn2912

tanko wrote: »

Yeah, it’s not set in stone. Depends on the colours in the back breeding of the cow i suppose.
Put three Sim bulls on black cows here last year, a black Saler, black Lim and black Angus crosses, all the resulting calves are that horrible grey/brown color. Won’t be doing that again.

Would the sim bulls be more likely to have weak colouring in that they’d follow the mother or cone out the dreaded grey? A load of our black lim cows have red calves off the lim bull

patsy_mccabe

Anyone recommend an easy calving BB bull with munster? It's for a neighbour who wants to try one. I havn't use a BB in years.

tanko

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Anyone recommend an easy calving BB bull with munster? It's for a neighbour who wants to try one. I havn't use a BB in years.

DBZ isn't hard calved on cows, you'd want a bit of height and length in the cow tho.

patsy_mccabe

tanko wrote: »

DBZ isn't hard calved on cows, you'd want a bit of height and length in the cow tho.

Thanks, she's a fine big cow. A BB cross, but big and boney

squinn2912

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Thanks, she's a fine big cow. A BB cross, but big and boney

Don’t know of availability but I used hitman on 2/3 and they were nice calves. Not overly growy though

tanko

squinn2912 wrote: »

Would the sim bulls be more likely to have weak colouring in that they’d follow the mother or cone out the dreaded grey? A load of our black lim cows have red calves off the lim bull

I don't know but i'll only put a Sim bull on a yellow or red cow from now on.

It's a bit different for Lims, a 3/4 bred Lim is nearly always going to be red.

squinn2912

tanko wrote: »

I don't know but i'll only put a Sim bull on a yellow or red cow from now on.

It's a bit different for Lims, a 3/4 bred Lim is nearly always going to be red.

Yea that is true but there are cows here that have had calves every colour to the same bulls. Often seen a black cow with twins one red the other black too so when you have black you can get anything. I was thinking of a sim bull next go round but all in all the lim is hard to beat

squinn2912

tanko wrote: »

I don't know but i'll only put a Sim bull on a yellow or red cow from now on.

It's a bit different for Lims, a 3/4 bred Lim is nearly always going to be red.

a that is true but there are cows here that have had calves every colour to the same bulls. Often seen a black cow with twins one red the other black too so when you have black you can get anything. I was thinking of a sim bull next go round but all in all the lim is hard to beat

farmec1001

Is there a Munster/PG Limousin sire equivalent or better than EBY on calving difficulty, proven on heifers?

farmec1001

Is there a Munster/PG Limousin sire equivalent or better than EBY on calving difficulty, proven on heifers?

patsy_mccabe

farmec1001 wrote: »

Is there a Munster/PG Limousin sire equivalent or better than EBY on calving difficulty, proven on heifers?

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