Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

Who2

I’ve si x sh heifer bulling today good square heifer deep body but lacking confirmation around the back end, would I be cracked to put sa on her, hoping for a replacement? Ai man coming in a few hours.

charolais0153

Who2 wrote: »

I’ve si x sh heifer bulling today good square heifer deep body but lacking confirmation around the back end, would I be cracked to put sa on her, hoping for a replacement? Ai man coming in a few hours.

Dont see a saler impriving her much, id go fot a limousin, that knell maybe or lm2014

squinn2912

charolais0153 wrote: »

Dont see a saler impriving her much, id go fot a limousin, that knell maybe or lm2014

Yea stick Ivor onto her. She sounds like a good heifer just lacking style?

Who2

squinn2912 wrote: »

Yea stick Ivor onto her. She sounds like a good heifer just lacking style?

She’s a good solid decent cow maker, but more of a traditional back end than a u grader. I’ll get that with the bull down the road. I should have a share of si. X and lm coming as replacements, just thought if I did get a heifer she should be really good.

tanko

Bova have a new Saler bull called Manclaux, looks a fine bull but completely unproven yet.
Valliant ((VTA) is a real good bull i think, proven easy calved bull.

Who2

tanko wrote: »

Bova have a new Saler bull called Manclaux, looks a fine bull but completely unproven yet.
Valliant ((VTA) is a real good bull i think, proven easy calved bull.

Just reading your post now, but that’s what I put in her. I’d a sh cow bulling too and went cracked and put an de beauffaux into her. Should get the color but will probably end up with a low set animal.

50HX

End of the road for this fella


https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/belgian-blue-sire-dbz-no-longer-available/


Have few left in the pot still.....great bull

RobinBanks

50HX wrote: »

End of the road for this fella


https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/belgian-blue-sire-dbz-no-longer-available/


Have few left in the pot still.....great bull

I wish i used more of him, i have 1 cow here off him and she is a great cow, medium sized, muscly, calves herself and always has a roan colored lim calf.

carrollsno1

https://www.doveagenetics.ie/products/beef/glacon

Anyone use that fella before? On heifers ;0 ! Maybe im nad but weve an absolute unit of a Saler heifer here in excess of 400kg at 15 months (Dam is less than 500kg) the auld lad thinks im mad suggesting blond but i remember lads at the ploughing mentioning calving Saler heifers to blonds and even the odd blue easy enough. Wildest weve went with bulls on heifers was a Dovea called Palmares (PAM) a good while back on plain enough heifers.
Havenf got the heifers sire to hand but will find out, shes out of a Simmental x JEX cow who was born in late spring and was the least fanciest of calves bought that year but by far the luckiest weve had in a while.

Lady Haywire

I'd go for it. But I put CH on my Salers first calvers so blonde wouldn't phase me :pac:

carrollsno1

Lady Haywire wrote: »

I'd go for it. But I put CH on my Salers first calvers so blonde wouldn't phase me :pac:

See how it goes, ill try get a pic of her later.

Hard Knocks

carrollsno1 wrote: »

https://www.doveagenetics.ie/products/beef/glacon

Anyone use that fella before? On heifers ;0 ! Maybe im nad but weve an absolute unit of a Saler heifer here in excess of 400kg at 15 months (Dam is less than 500kg) the auld lad thinks im mad suggesting blond but i remember lads at the ploughing mentioning calving Saler heifers to blonds and even the odd blue easy enough. Wildest weve went with bulls on heifers was a Dovea called Palmares (PAM) a good while back on plain enough heifers.
Havenf got the heifers sire to hand but will find out, shes out of a Simmental x JEX cow who was born in late spring and was the least fanciest of calves bought that year but by far the luckiest weve had in a while.

Had an AI man here who would use BA on first Calvert’s quicker than the LM
He reckons shorter gestation and easier calved

Calves were a red colour and sold well

carrollsno1

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Had an AI man here who would use BA on first Calvert’s quicker than the LM
He reckons shorter gestation and easier calved

Calves were a red colour and sold well

What type of heifer would ye have yourself if you dont mind me asking?

GiantPencil

carrollsno1 wrote: »

See how it goes, ill try get a pic of her later.

Glacon is easy calved in France anyway so I'd say you'll be ok.

Who2

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Had an AI man here who would use BA on first Calvert’s quicker than the LM
He reckons shorter gestation and easier calved

Calves were a red colour and sold well

I used a lot of blonde a good few years back and I’ve still two cows which I’ll be delighted when they are gone. Too fine boned, nervous, no milk and they can come any color.They usually calve ok but you will get the odd one go well over 300 days and if you’ve a bull calf, they can test a jack. Put si or lm on her and you can’t go too far wrong.

ABitofsense

Anyone with LM 2242 Edakkya calves on the ground. His numbers look very interesting & I'm thinking of trying him.

Hard Knocks

carrollsno1 wrote: »

What type of heifer would ye have yourself if you dont mind me asking?

Mostly LM or CH, had a few SM & BB over the years
BA off a CH is a good cross, sorry didn’t keep some of the heifer calves for cows (sadly money wanted)

Hard Knocks

Who2 wrote: »

I used a lot of blonde a good few years back and I’ve still two cows which I’ll be delighted when they are gone. Too fine boned, nervous, no milk and they can come any color.They usually calve ok but you will get the odd one go well over 300 days and if you’ve a bull calf, they can test a jack. Put si or lm on her and you can’t go too far wrong.

Agree long gestation (300+ days) are a pain
No matter the calving difficulty, big calves are hard got out

patsy_mccabe

ABitofsense wrote: »

Anyone with LM 2242 Edakkya calves on the ground. His numbers look very interesting & I'm thinking of trying him.

I'm interested in using him aswell. I think someone on here said he breeds very narrow.
I haven't seen any pedigree stock from him yet.

The Real Elmer Fudd

Can anyone recommend any blue bulls from Dovea?

squinn2912

The Real Elmer Fudd wrote: »

Can anyone recommend any blue bulls from Dovea?

Is it just me or are they the unluckiest cattle ever? If it’s not a sore foot or a chill it’s a cow that can’t calve or roars every time you turn around.

Hard Knocks

The Real Elmer Fudd wrote: »

Can anyone recommend any blue bulls from Dovea?

Asked AI man for BB2280 for tall BA cow
He didn’t have him but said S905 is breeding well

patsy_mccabe

squinn2912 wrote: »

Is it just me or are they the unluckiest cattle ever? If it’s not a sore foot or a chill it’s a cow that can’t calve or roars every time you turn around.

Their ancestors were just too pampered in straw sheds with plenty feed. No hardiness there at all.

charolais0153

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Asked AI man for BB2280 for tall BA cow
He didn’t have him but said S905 is breeding well

S905 great bull for a low thick cow, size improver
Wbh and bb4399 would be good muscly types,
Bb2247 brings the red cakves but they lack size and power, would want a big cow, easy calved,

dodo mommy

Morning all, has many of ye used the Lm bull JSS from eurogene? He looks good on paper, would he be suitable for pedigree use?

Lady Haywire

charolais0153 wrote: »

S905 great bull for a low thick cow, size improver
Wbh and bb4399 would be good muscly types,
Bb2247 brings the red cakves but they lack size and power, would want a big cow, easy calved,

Just note S905 is something like 19% CD :pac: I know because I ordered him yesterday!

Hard Knocks

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Just note S905 is something like 19% CD :pac: I know because I ordered him yesterday!

Sadly saw my cow Bulling yesterday
Did you try BB2380?

Hard Knocks

dodo mommy wrote: »

Morning all, has many of ye used the Lm bull JSS from eurogene? He looks good on paper, would he be suitable for pedigree use?

Had him on 2 commercial dairy cross heifers
Calved a 2yo daughter recently to a SA great bag of milk
Good bull easy calved but has a 292 day gestation

bogman_bass

squinn2912 wrote: »

Is it just me or are they the unluckiest cattle ever? If it’s not a sore foot or a chill it’s a cow that can’t calve or roars every time you turn around.

Take them over a CH any day

charolais0153

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Just note S905 is something like 19% CD :pac: I know because I ordered him yesterday!

Thats becasue he is a belgian bull and a bit of an outcross, was used a lot of pedigree cattle which inflates the calving %