Most evil person ever?

tsoparno · 09-10-2011 1:51pm

4leto wrote: »

Margaret Thatcher wasn't evil, one hell of a leader who saved Britain from ruin.

tell that to the coal miners.:)

tsoparno · 09-10-2011 1:53pm

Batsy wrote: »

In fact, both Cromwell and Thatcher were two of the greatest politicians Britain has ever had.

The Irish will always struggle with a statement like that.:)

Fishooks12 · 09-10-2011 1:58pm

Larry Murphy is a fairly stupid choice, he is after all one of thousands of rapists in Ireland!

Just more infamous given that he was released early

Alibaba · 09-10-2011 2:21pm

Osama Bin Laden RIP Good Riddance...

tsoparno · 09-10-2011 2:24pm

George W Bush

Teclo · 09-10-2011 2:47pm

Some more

Genghis Khan
Mao Tse-tung
Adolf Eichmann
Reinhard Heydrich
Leon Trotsky
Karl Marx
Sir Arthur Harris

Yahew · 09-10-2011 3:03pm

Batsy wrote: »

Oliver Cromwell and Margaret Thatcher?

You must be mad to rate those two as more evil that the likes of Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot.

In fact, both Cromwell and Thatcher were two of the greatest politicians Britain has ever had.

Hitler was "good" for Germany not anybody else, until he lost. This is an Irish forum, we have different views on Cromwell.

silvervixen84 · 09-10-2011 3:07pm

Mama Fratelli

andyjo · 09-10-2011 3:11pm

Brendan Smyth

cgpg5 · 09-10-2011 3:11pm

Ian Brady off the top of my head, and of course Hitler and the likes, and Father Fintan Stack who was "way worse than Hitler"

HavingCrack · 09-10-2011 3:53pm

Lab_Mouse wrote: »

I highlighted war.Read up on how the russian commanders treated their soldiers.The only reason the russians lost so many(millions!)in the war was because the people in charge were callous bastards.Give out about the nazi's all you want,but if you keep sending unarmed men against a wehrmacht machine gun nest,the germans will keep mowing them down.

have a quick look at the soviet casualitys in finland for an example

It set the the stage for the bastard$ that ran the USSR and other communist states in europe

Ah, but that wasn't my point exactly. If the German's had not launched Barbarossa the war between the two states would not have occured and all those soldiers would not have been killed. Now granted, the Soviet Union did an excellent job of murdering its own citizens and I suspect a war between the USSR and Nazi Germany was inevitable at some stage due to the political differences.

Yahew wrote: »

The alternative to Spanish fascism was not democracy but communism, and it would have been a particularly vicious communism too.

That's a highly simplistic view of the Spanish Civil War and one that is simply incorrect. Spain was a functioning (albeit very poorly) democracy before the Nationalist uprising. Democracy could work in Spain and was shown to do so. Furthermore Communist inflitration of the Republican movement didn't really begin until late 1937, prior to this date they were far, far lower in numbers than the Socialists, Liberal Republicans and Anarchists. In fact Juan Negrin claimed that if the Western Powers removed the arms embargo that he could liminate the Communist presence overnight.

Western appeasement was the reason Communism gained a foothold in Spain.

In fact the biggest losers of the Spanish Civil War were the Anarchists, as one of their members said 'if either the Communists or Fasicsts won the result would have been the same for us'.

4leto wrote: »

The same for Agusto Pinochet, but the CIA did a job on Allende it was a strange time in global politics. But appart from Cuba and some central American states America did succeed in keeping the red menace out of South America.

Ah yes, all those murders and dissaperances were for the good for the people. I'm fairly sure socialist governments were a better option than all those brutal right-wing dictatorships for the general population.

Eric Cartman · 09-10-2011 3:55pm

Everyone in israel

The_Kew_Tour · 09-10-2011 3:57pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Everyone in isreal

Ouch!!

Celly Smunt · 09-10-2011 3:59pm

Teclo wrote: »

Some more

Genghis Khan
Mao Tse-tung
Adolf Eichmann
Reinhard Heydrich
Leon Trotsky
Karl Marx
Sir Arthur Harris

for writing a book?

HavingCrack · 09-10-2011 4:00pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Everyone in israel

Yeah right, every single person in Israel is evil.

Cill Dara Abu · 09-10-2011 4:00pm

Daniel O' Donnell, evil is too nice a word for him.

Eric Cartman · 09-10-2011 4:01pm

pmcmahon wrote: »

for writing a book?

for fcuking up so many peoples lives with socialism and brainwashing the youth of the world into thinking that one of the worst economic systems ever could work

Eric Cartman · 09-10-2011 4:03pm

HavingCrack wrote: »

Yeah right, every single person in Israel is evil.

yeah your right , its really just the government, the army , the majority of people who support the government and the army, the majority of people who hate muslims and anyone who still thinks the holocaust justifys what they're doing , so probably only about 80-90% of israeli's then

fontanalis · 09-10-2011 4:04pm

Teclo wrote: »

Some more

Genghis Khan
Mao Tse-tung
Adolf Eichmann
Reinhard Heydrich
Leon Trotsky
Karl Marx
Sir Arthur Harris

I'm not saying he wasn't a plunderer but was he worse than many of the Romans or other European Imperialists at the time?

KeithAFC · 09-10-2011 4:05pm

Mother teresa, Ernst Boepple.

fontanalis · 09-10-2011 4:05pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

yeah your right , its really just the government, the army , the majority of people who support the government and the army, the majority of people who hate muslims and anyone who still thinks the holocaust justifys what they're doing , so probably only about 80-90% of israeli's then

Didn't thousands of Israelis march in protest to the Sabra Chatilla massacres?

Celly Smunt · 09-10-2011 4:05pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

for fcuking up so many peoples lives with socialism and brainwashing the youth of the world into thinking that one of the worst economic systems ever could work

wrong,the communist manifesto was twisted and turned by individuals in power,Communism itself is reputable in the right hands in the right country.

still couldn't bring myself to agree with it though.

fontanalis · 09-10-2011 4:07pm

pmcmahon wrote: »

wrong,the communist manifesto was twisted and turned by individuals in power,Communism itself is reputable in the right hands in the right country.

still couldn't bring myself to agree with it though.

But people want to own sh!t and it will never last long term and people will reject it democratically, so the only way for it to be a permanent fixture is to have a totalitarian regime.

Celly Smunt · 09-10-2011 4:08pm

fontanalis wrote: »

But people want to own sh!t and it will never last long term and people will reject it democratically, so the only way for it to be a permanent fixture is to have a totalitarian regime.

hence the statement "right country"

fontanalis · 09-10-2011 4:10pm

pmcmahon wrote: »

hence the statement "right country"

I think the correct term is "country that doesn't exist"; extreme ideologies will never work anywhere.

Celly Smunt · 09-10-2011 4:11pm

fontanalis wrote: »

I think the correct term is "country that doesn't exist"; extreme ideologies will never work anywhere.

name one tolerant ideology

fontanalis · 09-10-2011 4:12pm

pmcmahon wrote: »

name one tolerant ideology

My point exactly; no extreme ideology of any kind will ever work.

Yahew · 09-10-2011 4:13pm

pmcmahon wrote: »

wrong,the communist manifesto was twisted and turned by individuals in power,Communism itself is reputable in the right hands in the right country.

still couldn't bring myself to agree with it though.

There is no way a Marxist system cannot be totalitarian. Nor can it happen without massive bloodshed. If you want to hand over your property to the State, feel free. Most people would fight to hold on to it.

Wolfe Tone · 09-10-2011 4:15pm

Thatcher, Hitler and his henchmen, Stalin + the usual dictator suspects, Pol Pot for example.

Fritzl too.

There are so many it is rather depressing.

HavingCrack · 09-10-2011 4:16pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

yeah your right , its really just the government, the army , the majority of people who support the government and the army, the majority of people who hate muslims and anyone who still thinks the holocaust justifys what they're doing , so probably only about 80-90% of israeli's then

Out of itnerest are all those Arabs who have butchered Israeli children evil also????? Don't try and avoid this quetion by the way by claiming Israel has killed more.

So all those people are more evil than Stalin, Mao, Hitler, etc.???

For a start 20-30% of Israeli's are Arabs with another 30-40% or so who probably are pro-peace.

Under your criteria every American, British, Australian, Japanese, German, French, Irish etc. etc. etc. person is evil due to their states actions. Collective responsibility is an absurd concept and

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