Five arrests in 'slavery' raid at UK [travellers] site

JONJO THE MISER

Cant believe this, in the 21st century, its like a scene from a sick movie.
Some of the men could of been held as slaves for 15 Years:eek:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-14871318

Four men and a woman were arrested on suspicion of committing slavery offences in the raid at Greenacre travellers' site, Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire, on Sunday.
The men, who are English, Polish and Romanian, were found in "filthy and cramped" conditions, police said.
Detectives believe some may have been there for up to 15 years.

Latchy

And in the back garden of merry ol England to ... I wonder what other horror mysterious are out there waiting to be liberated .

Dennis the Stone

You had me thinking there for a second that the BBC News report called them knackers.

orourkeda

iTS HARD TO BELIEVE IT COULD HAPPEN IN THIS DAY AND AGE

goat2

i just scanned through the link, i wonder did everyone on the site know of this slavery, and why did peoples families not miss them, there are a few nationalities on the slave list, unbeleivable

Tigger

before anyone gets pc on the op's wording they had slaves
slaves up to 24 slaves for up to 15 years

Biggins

It seems a bit strange (as well as downright criminal) but then sometimes I think we don't know the half of what is going on at our own areas, as well as others (as in this case).

westendgirlie

Latchy wrote: »

And in the back garden of merry ol England to ... I wonder what other horror mysterious are out there waiting to be liberated .

The Garden of England is Kent not Hertfordshire. But that doesn't take away from this awful story.

hondasam

It is unbelievable to think it's going on for 15yrs. There has to be more to the story.
I'm sure the media will make an Irish connection somewhere along the line.

J. Marston

orourkeda wrote: »

iTS HARD TO BELIEVE IT COULD HAPPEN IN THIS DAY AND AGE

Not sure if caps lock by mistake or just very shocked...

Samich

It's scandalous _ _ _!

Biggins

Samich wrote: »

It's scandalous _ _ _!

Pat ?

Latchy

westendgirlie wrote: »

The Garden of England is Kent not Hertfordshire. But that doesn't take away from this awful story.

Geograpical accuracy aside it can be wherever I wish it to be and yes , it is an awful story .

Eric Cartman

just when i thought the travellers couldnt commit worse crimes, they never stop surprising me

hondasam

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-13909240

I knew that story sounded familiar.

Dangerous Man

Let's not jump the gun and get all racist here. These people are a different ethnic group than us settled folk and simply have different traditions within their own culture. It's selfish of us to expect them to live by our rules.

Biggins

Dangerous Man wrote: »

Let's not jump the gun and get all racist here. These people are a different ethnic group than us settled folk and simply have different traditions within their own culture. It's selfish of us to expect them to live by our rules.

There is traditions - which is fair enough... but then there is slavery, which is a whole other thing altogether!
...And we should expect them to live by state rules if not European ones!

Dangerous Man

Biggins wrote: »

There is traditions - which is fair enough... but then there is slavery, which is a whole other thing altogether!

*I know - I was just doing my impression of yer man from Pavee Point.* :D:D

entropi

Dangerous Man wrote: »

Let's not jump the gun and get all racist here. These people are a different ethnic group than us settled folk and simply have different traditions within their own culture. It's selfish of us to expect them to live by our rules.

If they've been living in the one spot for that amount of time, they are settled, and not really living up to their given name now, are they!?

It still cannot excuse what they have done, those who were against the eviction are hopefully eating their own words right now.

Biggins

Dangerous Man wrote: »

*I know - I was just doing my impression of yer man from Pavee Point.* :D:D

Pavee Point ?

biko

Dangerous Man wrote: »

Let's not jump the gun and get all racist here. These people are a different ethnic group than us settled folk and simply have different traditions within their own culture. It's selfish of us to expect them to live by our rules.

I wonder if it's a cultural thing? Maybe they've wanted Pulp Fiction too many times.

whubee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEWx1LHEWAc

nowherefar

Maybe they were keeping them to provide big game hunting to Tories. Where's van damme when you need him??

dermiek

Being held a slave by a <snip> family might not be too bad. No house or caravan cleaning anyway.
Unless you're kept as a sex slave.

steve9859

Dangerous Man wrote: »

Let's not jump the gun and get all racist here. These people are a different ethnic group than us settled folk and simply have different traditions within their own culture. It's selfish of us to expect them to live by our rules.

er, no. They live here so they can keep within our rules. They can feck off home if they love their rules so much.

hondasam

steve9859 wrote: »

er, no. They live here so they can keep within our rules. They can feck off home if they love their rules so much.

Where is home ?

im invisible

from the link in the OP

when we looked back since 2008 we were aware of 28 people who had made similar accusations

and its only being investigated now?

Eric Cartman

Dangerous Man wrote: »

Let's not jump the gun and get all racist here. These people are a different ethnic group than us settled folk and simply have different traditions within their own culture. It's selfish of us to expect them to live by our rules.

theyre not a different race

that 2nd word you use is debatable , people wouldnt do some of the things these stories tell us , sometimes their actions paint them more as rabid animals more than anything

Ditch

steve9859 wrote: »

er, no. They live here so they can keep within our rules.

Last I heard; Leighton Buzzard, Befordshire was in england. I might be wrong though .....

Where is it said that these travellers are of Irish origin?

El Weirdo

Master of Nothing wrote: »

If they've been living in the one spot for that amount of time, they are settled, and not really living up to their given name now, are they!?

It still cannot excuse what they have done, those who were against the eviction are hopefully eating their own words right now.

This is a different site to the one that's been in the news lately.

Dangerous Man

Biggins wrote: »

Pavee Point ?

The traveller advocacy group.

entropi

El Weirdo wrote: »

This is a different site to the one that's been in the news lately.

I stand corrected then.

I'll still stick with my point that they are not travellers, if they are not actually travelling around.

steve9859

hondasam wrote: »

Where is home ?

Er, Romania, Poland.

And as for the English or Irish travellers, they can't elect to live outside of society and society's laws as they claim, as do their apologists, to have a 'different culture'.

Pedro K

It would seem the majority of travellers are criminals. That is something that needs to be properly addressed by travellers and pavee point, and not Just swept under the rug as it currently is by apologists.

Biggins

steve9859 wrote: »

Er, Romania, Poland.

Dear god! Tell me your joking or not that daft!

Please learn the difference between Roma and European traveling groups as such.
To say they all come from Romania, Poland, is just showing ones lack of knowledge as to actual accurate facts.

Spread

hondasam wrote: »

Where is home ?

On the road. After all they are travellers

steve9859

Biggins wrote: »

Dear god! Tell me your joking or not that daft!

Please learn the difference between Roma and European traveling groups as such.
To say they all come from Romania, Poland, is just showing ones lack of knowledge as to actual accurate facts.

OK my mistake, I read the article as meaning that those arrested were of Polish and Romanian descent, not the slaves, and I was commenting on this story. Of course I know that 'travellers' (and I puposefully use apostrophes) are not all Romanian.

But the fact remains that people on this thread have sought to excuse 'traveller' behaviour due to a supposed cultural difference and that (and I quote) "It's selfish of us to expect them to live by our rules".

I'm sick of traveller apologists, and this "ethnic group" and "culturally different" nonsense. Those in the news now are even completely settled. They even come out with nonsense like "we're travellers and we want to stay here"!!

indiewindy

The people arrested are Irish, it happened in France as well 6 years ago
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/dec/16/france.jonhenley?INTCMP=SRCH


Shocking stuff, but taking people on the fringes of society who are unlikely to be reported missing is probably a major part of why they got away with it for so long. Hopefully those rescued make a full recovery and can rejoin society

El Weirdo

steve9859 wrote: »

But the fact remains that people on this thread have sought to excuse 'traveller' behaviour due to a supposed cultural difference and that (and I quote) "It's selfish of us to expect them to live by our rules".

I'm sick of traveller apologists, and this "ethnic group" and "culturally different" nonsense. Those in the news now are even completely settled. They even come out with nonsense like "we're travellers and we want to stay here"!!

Is your sarcasm detector broken?

biko

indiewindy wrote: »

The people arrested are Irish, it happened in France as well 6 years ago
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/dec/16/france.jonhenley?INTCMP=SRCH


Shocking stuff, but taking people on the fringes of society who are unlikely to be reported missing is probably a major part of why they got away with it for so long. Hopefully those rescued make a full recovery and can rejoin society

If this is the third known case I wager it's not isolated incidents and that police should raid these camps more often.

Another case

Four members of a family of travellers accused of forcing homeless people to work like 'slaves' are today behind bars.
William Connors, 50, his wife Breda, 46, their son John, 28, and son in law Miles, 22, are alleged to have threatened and coerced down-and-outs and street drinkers into modern day slavery.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1370669/4-travellers-held-police-slavery-charges-Gloucestershire.html#ixzz1Xfhid700

steve9859

El Weirdo wrote: »

Is your sarcasm detector broken?

Yes. Smashed. Blind rage tends to have that effect!

Dangerous Man

biko wrote: »

If this is the third known case I wager it's not isolated incidents and that police should raid these camps more often.

Another case

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1370669/4-travellers-held-police-slavery-charges-Gloucestershire.html#ixzz1Xfhid700

Miles. What a great name for a traveler.

Biggins

Dangerous Man wrote: »

Miles. What a great name for a traveler.

If he's a bare knuckle boxer - does he get clocked?

gigino

Master of Nothing wrote: »

I'll still stick with my point that they are not travellers, if they are not actually travelling around.

they define themselves as travellers.

Big Nasty

Dangerous Man wrote:

Let's not jump the gun and get all racist here. These people are a different ethnic group than us settled folk and simply have different traditions within their own culture. It's selfish of us to expect them to live by our rules.

Biggins wrote: »

There is traditions - which is fair enough... but then there is slavery, which is a whole other thing altogether!
...And we should expect them to live by state rules if not European ones!

Master of Nothing wrote: »

If they've been living in the one spot for that amount of time, they are settled, and not really living up to their given name now, are they!?

It still cannot excuse what they have done, those who were against the eviction are hopefully eating their own words right now.

steve9859 wrote: »

er, no. They live here so they can keep within our rules. They can feck off home if they love their rules so much.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

theyre not a different race

that 2nd word you use is debatable , people wouldnt do some of the things these stories tell us , sometimes their actions paint them more as rabid animals more than anything

It truly amazes me here sometimes when even seasoned posters don't 'get' a sarcastic post! :eek:

Dangerous Man

biko wrote: »

If this is the third known case I wager it's not isolated incidents and that police should raid these camps more often.

Another case

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1370669/4-travellers-held-police-slavery-charges-Gloucestershire.html#ixzz1Xfhid700

Biggins wrote: »

If he's a bare knuckle boxer - does he get clocked?

Boom. We're here all week folks - tip your waitress.

4leto

Slavery is alive and well in this 21st century and it is not only the traveller community engaged in it. Probably more now then there has ever been, numbers wise.

Its called indentured service now, just a modern term the same thing.

LondonIrish90

Arresting them over a few slaves and evicting them after illegaly building traveller village when they had no right to?

Stop with the ethnic cleansing

pablomakaveli

MCMLXXV wrote: »

It truly amazes me here sometimes when even seasoned posters don't 'get' a sarcastic post! :eek:

To be fair sarcasm doesnt always travel well in text form.

Queen-Mise

hondasam wrote: »

I'm sure the media will make an Irish connection somewhere along the line.

I hope to fcuk there is no Irish connection. That is a vile nasty thing to do or be involved in (slavery that is).

Biggins wrote: »

Pavee Point ?

http://paveepoint.ie/

Phenomenally Phrank

<SNIP>

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