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Football Manager 2012
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I haven't been in the red with wages but my finances are getting worse and worse.
I'm top of the BSN and even if I get promotion, I can't see the board giving me much money and there is a lot of players looking for more money than I can give them. I'll lose a load of players in June.0 -
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Got sacked by Gamba Osaka after my first season, first time I have been sacked in FM12. They said Challenge for the title. What the hell do you call what I did!
Check out the league table...I've never been involved in such a tight league before. There were 6 or 7 teams who could win the league going into the final game. I took the lead against Grampus in the last game and went top, they equalised in the 60th minute and I dropped to 6th!
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Got sacked by Gamba Osaka after my first season, first time I have been sacked in FM12. They said Challenge for the title. What the hell do you call what I did!
Unfortunately I think challenge for the title means finish in the top 3 a lot of times which is a bit silly when it's that tight.0 -
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Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »Developing young players.
Does anyone know how many games a young player needs to progress to his potential?
Do they need to start games or does 20 mins make any difference?
Does it have to be all league games or do cup games help as well?
thanks
First of all, not every player will hit their potential and there can be several reasons for that and sometimes there is little you can do to prevent that.
The best way is to give a player 1st team football but young players are prone to inconsistency and fatigue because they are young. A poor performance can lead to low morale/confidence problems. You have to keep players positive, only criticise when they are looking uninterested or lazy.
A players professionalism/determination/personality/media handling type is a another major factor in whether the player capable of becoming all that they can bePositive Personality types:
Ambitious: Ambition = 16-19 & Loyalty < 10.
Born Leader : Influence = 20 & Determination = 20. Age needs to be 23+
Determined : Determination = 18-19 & Ambition >9.
Driven : Determination = 20 & Ambition > 9.
Fairly Ambitious: (Ambition = 15) or (Ambition = 16-20 & Loyalty >9).
Fairly Professional : (Professionalism = 15-17) or (Professionalism = 18-20 & Temperament < 10).
Iron Willed : Pressure = 20 & Determination > 14.
Jovial : Pressure > 14 & Temperament > 9 & Professionalism < 11
Leader : (Influence = 19) or (Influence = 20 & Determination < 20).
Light-Hearted : Sportsmanship > 14 & Pressure > 14 & Determination > 9 & Temperament > 9.
Model Citizen : Determination > 17 & Ambition > 17 & Loyalty > 17 & Pressure > 17 & Professionalism > 17 & Temperament > 17 & Sportsmanship > 17.
Model Professional : Professionalism = 20 & Temperament > 9.
Professional : Professionalism = 18-19 & Temperament > 9.
Perfectionist : Ambition > 17 & Professionalism > 17 & Determination > 17 & Temperament < 10
Resilient : Pressure = 17-19 & Determination > 14.
Resolute : Determination = 15-17 & Professionalism = 15-17.
Spirited : Pressure > 14 & Professionalism = 11-17 & Temperament > 9.
Very Ambitious : Ambition = 20 & Loyalty < 10.
Negative Personality types:
Casual : Professionalism = 2-4 & Determination < 10.
Devoted : Loyalty = 20 & Ambition = 6-7 & 'Likes team' rating 100+
Easily Discouraged : Determination = 1 & Ambition < 10
Low Determination : Determination = 2-5 & Ambition < 10
Low Self-Belief : Pressure = 2-3 & Determination < 10.
Loyal : Loyalty = 18-19 & Ambition = 6-7
Slack : Professionalism = 1 & Determination < 10.
Spineless : Pressure = 1 & Determination < 10.
Temperamental : Temperament = 1-4.
Unambitious : Ambition < 6 & Loyalty > 10
Unsporting : Sportsmanship = 1 & Determination > 10
Very Loyal : Loyal = 20 & Ambition = 6-7
Neutral Personality types:
Balanced: none of the rest
Fairly Determined : (Determination = 15-17) or (Determination = 18-20 & Ambition < 10).
Fairly Loyal : (Loyalty = 15-17) or (Loyalty = 18-20 & Ambition = 8-14).
Fairly Sporting : Sportsmanship = 15-17.
Honest : Sportsmanship = 20 & Determination < 10
Realist : Sportsmanship = 2-4 & Determination > 10
Sporting : Sportsmanship = 18-19 & Determination < 10
Often, a player may be eligible to be described by more than one personality descriptions. In this case, you are still going to see only one description. As a rule, Professional> Determined> Realist> Resilient> Light-Hearted> Spirited> Resolute> Jovial. What is to the lft, takes precedence. This means that if a player is both Realist and Spirited, in the game he is going to be described as "Realist".
Media Handling type
Volatile: Temperament 3-6
Reserved : Controversy < 5 & Professionalism > 14 & Temperament > 6
Unflappable : Pressure > 14 & Temperament > 14
Evasive : Pressure > 14 & Professionalism > 14 & Controversy < 15
Short-tempered : Temperament < 3
Confrontational : Sportsmanship < 8 & Temperament < 8
Outspoken : Controversy > 14
Media-Friendly : Controversy < 15
Level-Headed : Controversy < 15 & Loyalty > 10 & Temperament > 6 & (Sportmanship > 11 or Professionalism > 12)
So it seems that you would want 'Reserved', 'Unflappable' and 'Evasive' mainly, as they have good Professionalism scores. 'Level-headed' is ok too as it means most scores are at least average. 'Media-friendly' seems to be a bit like 'Balanced' Personality type, in that all you know is that Controversy is not too high. But other stats could still be low.
Tutoring can help but make sure that the tutor is actually going to improve the players attitude, just because he is a quality player doesnt mean anything. Use the above guide to see if that has a chance of happening. Its the positive attitude and professionalism you want to pass on, maybe a few PPM's, I wouldnt consider Mario Balotelli a good tutor despite his ability.
The standard of training and facilities is another factor, all players are limited to this so its important to get these as high a standard as possible.
I usually keep screenshots of players to monitor their development over several seasons. I posted this on another forum but I think it can have relevance here
This is a screenshot of a kid when I first clapped eyes on him. I scouted regularly for about 18 months, scouts coming back telling me that he had a bag of potential (4.5* potential), before signing him on a pre contract for €1m.
Where would you ever see a 6' 8" player better at taking corners than being in the box?!
He was never tutored mainly because I never had anyone suitable to improve him, he had a determined and level headed attitude.
Here is a screenshot of him when he finally signed for Celtic. One of his weaknesses was adapting to a new country but I already had Rafael Toloi and he was a Brazilian International he was honoured to be at the same club. Never got any issues with adapting which was lucky I suppose.
I created a custom schedule to try and develop him physically and give him some speed. Most players you have the speed but they dont have the technical ability or footballing brain. This lad was the opposite and just needed the mobility to cause havoc.
Just under 3 years of development and I've gotten results that I never expected
Still a half star of potential to be tapped but I just wish I could have done something about his bravery, bit of an achilles heel for a player like him. Still havent figured out how to influence a player's bravery. Anyone know?
That lad was fairly easy/obvious where he had to improve and I set his training accordingly and it worked out better than I hoped. I always ensure that players are happy with their workloads. Players moaning about high workloads when everyone else on the schedule is happy is a sign that their professionalism/determination isnt very high.
Good pros will even take on schedules that have a high risk of causing them an injury. My rule of thumb is to never use high strength/aerobic training in a schedule. The players professionalism and injury proneness will be hinted at in the physios assessment of their training, their personality, their weaknesses. Never create a schedule with a high overall workload, can make players susceptible to training injuries or match injuries. I just dont take the risk
Coach reports are more detailed when you use say a defensive minded coach to look at defenders and use a attack minded coach to look at attack minded players. Ideally you will have one attack and defensive minded coaches who are excellent at judging players and giving training advice. They will tell you of good PPM's to train your players on.0 -
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Exhibited the first signs of addiction last night, haven't been properly into a FM/CM game in a fair few years now. Started a season with Shelbourne the other day and played a few games, got into the mood a bit. Then turned it on at about 9pm last night. Before I knew it it was 2am and I was playing it in bed, when I should really have been asleep by 11...
All too familiar feeling.
Hello fm goodbye life.
My Gf thinks i love football because i watch football and play this game so much, but sometimes i have to wonder if im only watching football to scout new players for FM.
Yes i do want to watch the brazilian league football no i dont care if im suppossed to have dinner with your parents 0 -
RobbieTheRobber wrote: »Hello fm goodbye life.
My Gf thinks i love football because i watch football and play this game so much, but sometimes i have to wonder if im only watching football to scout new players for FM.
Yes i do want to watch the brazilian league football no i dont care if im suppossed to have dinner with your parents
Where are you going, its 10am on a Sunday morning?
To the park.
The park?
Yes, I'm scouting the u-12's.
You're what?0 -
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