''Leader's'' Debate - TV3 - 8.00PM

Sir Oxman

Permabear wrote: »

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That's not what he is saying.
He is saying he's not like his buddies Dempsey, Ahern, Harney, Ahern, Killeen , McDaid, O'Keeffe who have abandoned ship with huge 'entitlements' before the new regulations come in from the next Dail.

This is his justification for keeping 90,000 euros of taxpayers money laughingly called a parachute payment, for himself.

Of course he never mentioned he also has his old teachers job to go back too as well.

Chipboard

Martin wants to appoint non elected people to government. The Galway tent moves to Leinster House!

LuckyGent88

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Gibson screamer

BlaasForRafa

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

You don't see the Labour and Fine Gael politicians foregoing it either...

How many Labour or FG politicians have been in power the last 14 years when FF were voting huge pay and pension increases for themselves?

nesf

We've had to hand out quite a few bans and infractions in this thread already. Please keep to the rules people.

telekon

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

Let him f--k off to the private sector then. Otherwise he should shut his yap about it

No chance. Straight back to being a teacher.

Seems Mickey favours the jobs with the longest holidays. :mad:

jamas

Was looking forward to seeing Gilmore wipe the floor with Martin. OOps, just not happenning is it

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Flimbos

Gilmore has his homework done on Michéal ministerial career

Mr.Micro

Chipboard wrote: »

Martin wants to appoint non elected people to government. The Galway tent moves to Leinster House!

In 5 minutes the cabinet would be populated by CEO 's of multinational corporations.....that is the FF way forward, the Galway tent would be nothing in comparison

ascanbe

Martin is pretty amusing, though. Does he remember where he's been for the last 14 years?
The way he's going on is like if Hermann Goring popped up at the end of WW2 saying he can't believe the whole war and concentration camp thing and that if everyone just listened to him everything would be alright.

Kasabian

This debate highlights the fact we have noone that can lead this country in Labour and FF.

FG are also been led by a dead duck.

fifth

They're level pegging it almost now. Who would have thought that, seriously poor showing from Labour. Fianna Fail had nothing to lose really.

mossyc123

Gilmore needed this election last year.

He has been destroyed.

murpho999

This is almost over.....and I can honestly say that I am no wiser of each party's policies than I was at the start.

All talk about changing politics and health......biggest issue right now is the economy and unemployment and neither of them have said ONE single thing they would do to tackle it.

Won't be voting for either but I have to say Martin has performed better....he will do well in opposition in the next Dail, but I'm more worried about Gilmore being in government than I was at the start of the show.

Tech3

Martin hasnt a clue, Gilmore should nail him but hes absolutely useless. Politics is like a fuking circus in this country.

amacachi

Kenny is the winner so far. He may have pulled off a masterstroke.

Drumpot

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If Martin was with FG it would be 75/25 . .

oppenheimer1

An easy win for Martin... Showed Gilmore up for the spoofer he is.

No wonder Kenny stayed away....

carm

An absolute waste of an hour of my evening.

pazza

Round 1 to the chair...

BlaasForRafa

funkyflea wrote: »

They're level pegging it almost now. Who would have thought that, seriously poor showing from Labour. Fianna Fail had nothing to lose really.

Which shows why Kenny was better to skip it. The alleged debate was a shambles . Martin is a spoofer, thats pretty obvious and Gilmore completely fumbled the ball when he chances to bury martin.

oppenheimer1

amacachi wrote: »

Kenny is the winner so far. He may have pulled off a masterstroke.

Still a coward though.

Mr.Micro

funkyflea wrote: »

They're level pegging it almost now. Who would have thought that, seriously poor showing from Labour. Fianna Fail had nothing to lose really.

I thought Gilmore recovered very well the longer it goes on. Martin talks but there is no substance at all not even a hint of policy.

Kristopherus

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Gibson screamer

Damien Duff has just added a second. 68 mins

martin46585

Poppycock, tell us something we didn't know !'!!!!!!

evercloserunion

Pretty unimpressive performances from both candidates. MM getting very hyped up throughout, his body language was aggressive and he was blustering a lot. Gilmore tried to play the reserved statesman but took it too far, he had no bite and let Martin away with murder.

Gilmore ended well.

telekon

Would have been interesting to see Biffo up there tonight, all shouty and bolshy. "I simply don't accept that...", "What I believe is this..." etc. etc.

folan

this idea of outsiders as ministers.

What does the civil service do? shouldnt they be the experts?

ninebeanrows

I think Gilmore used these tactics deliberately, he didn't want to come across as aggressive and preferred to take the statesman approach.

I think he done much better in the 2nd half of the show.

Overall, i doubt it will have much impact on the overall scheme of things as the future debates will have much mores significance.

Could plump FF up by 2 or 3% in the next poll but will change again.