''Leader's'' Debate - TV3 - 8.00PM

LuckyLloyd

Tarobot wrote: »

And who are the unions telling us to vote for? Labour.

This should be setting off alarm bells in the heads of the vast majority of this country by the way!!

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ascanbe

Gilmore really missed a chance to nail Martin/FF to the wall regarding the bank-guarantee; as with some from FG he doesn't seem to have bothered doing his homework on just why it was such a disastrous decision and what should have been done differently. Martin managed to slither out of it relatively unscathed.

dartbhoy

Martin came out on the day the election date was set calling for a campaign without attacks on other parties yet his done nothing since but constantly attack the other party leaders and as for tonight he's just attacking Labour policies without putting any Ideas of his own forward! A pathetic leader who doesn't even deserve to be a TD! I can't stand the way he's so smug and sneaky!

telekon

So its Labour that proposed abolishing the Seanad now, is it?? :rolleyes:

UDAWINNER

martins a waffler, talking up health and education,both depts are a disgrace. He's an embarassment for cork

LuckyGent88

Martin and FF have had 14 years to reform the whole political system and have done sweet fcuk all about it. Cowen got more than Obama :rolleyes::rolleyes:

ascanbe

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Gilmore exposed as every inch the career politician with no governmental experience.

MM seems more informed, experienced and articulate.

Wouldn't vote for either party, but find it distressing that Gilmore will be involved in running the country going forward.

The Universal Health policy in particular, is ponies and unicorns.

Martin, on the other hand, has ample experience in contributing handsomely to the destruction of the country.

wyndhurst

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Here we go......

"If I'm elected to the next Dail I will be permanently losing money for the rest of my life"

Absolutely stunningly misplaced sense of "entitlement".

That statement alone should lose him his election and his seat.

Utter rubbish - fact is if he was interested in the money he would have resigned with the others.

Kasabian

Permabear wrote: »

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I think he was referring to the pensions available to him.

Liam Byrne

Permabear wrote: »

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That's a big assumption given his track record.

Phrasing it as "losing money" is misleading and disrespectful to people who are actually losing money.

As it is he will be "earning less money out of our pockets", and will ALSO get the payoff that Browne asked him about and that he refused point-blank to even acknowledge, let alone answer.

Amazotheamazing

Great hit by Labour.

At the end of it all, Martin was in power for the last decade, if he wanted reform he had plenty of chances to advocate it.

BlaasForRafa

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Let him f--k off to the private sector then. Otherwise he should shut his yap about it

Eliot Rosewater

I don't understand this obsession with making parliament cost less. It's one of the most important institutions of the government of this country.

fifth

Yikes, Gilmore thought he had nailed that one. Martins comeback was pretty good. (This debate isn't helping matters from an international perspective at all).

Flimbos

Martin has said the word "change" about 5 or 6 times in that sentence there... does he think he's the Irish Obama?

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Kasabian

Dreadful debate. It's pretty much like any day the have sat in the Dail.

CoalBucket

"The number days and hours they sit doesn't change anything" according to Martin.

They might as well not turn up at all then

bernardo mac

Martin is a snappy and fierce terrier who sets out to do as much damage to his opponent knowing he'll be defeated anyway:eek:

mossyc123

Eliot Rosewater wrote: »

I don't understand this obsession with making parliament cost less. It's one of the most important institutions of the government of this country.

Agreed.

Tabloid witch-hunt element to it.

Close down the quangos and get rid of a the serious problem of waste in the Public Service first.

Leslie91

Switching off. Gilmore is awful. Desperate desperate performance.

If you can't out debate a Fianna Fail'er after what they have done to this country GIVE UP you idiot.

Kasabian

Permabear wrote: »

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What's the score in the Wales-Ireland game?

Liam Byrne

wyndhurst wrote: »

Utter rubbish - fact is if he was interested in the money he would have resigned with the others.

The fact is that he completely dodged the question.

If he's not "interested in the money" then let him forego it. He helped his party ruin the country and has not earned a cent.

wobblinbrush

God MM' very radical, isn't he? Done a lot of radical things, in his own estimation. Handing back the 90k, would be pretty radical.

yoshytoshy

Man the amount of money these twits got over the years ,we've no excuse if these are in government this time around.

Duckworth_Luas

Sorry Micheál, for a Punch and Judy show you need a full set of muppets! Most of ours have retired.

LuckyLloyd

ascanbe wrote: »

Martin, on the other hand, has ample experience in contributing handsomely to the destruction of the country.

Awesome, party politics is cool, huh? :rolleyes:

I really don't give a **** about what has gone on or what parties these people represent. MM won't be in the next government, and the dude who will has turned in a very disturbing performance. The only comfort I can take is that the scope the next government will have is severely limited.

This guy strikes me as a moron.

oppenheimer1

Liam Byrne wrote: »

The fact is that he completely dodged the question.

If he's not "interested in the money" then let him forego it. He helped his party ruin the country and has not earned a cent.

You don't see the Labour and Fine Gael politicians foregoing it either...

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