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The Great AH Census of Religion

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    #122
    Daroxtar
    Registered Users Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Daroxtar


    If the universe is truly infinite then there must be a god somewhere. If its finite then the odds decrease drastically


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    #123
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    ascanbe wrote: »
    "But you cannot deny the fact that there could be something beyond your comprehension"

    Right look, if one is able to disprove the existence of an afterlife, then there is no point in believing, having faith in or even discussing matters of religion. And I don't think it is impossible for humans to disprove the existence of an afterlife.

    Perhaps my use of the phrase 'stamp-out' was wrong. I don't wish to put in place regime like that of Russia under Stalin or Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge.


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    #124
    Daroxtar
    Registered Users Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Daroxtar


    Killer Pigeon wrote: »
    How about if their faith (which contradicts facts) starts to effect the way you live. Imagine if you were an atheist living in one of those towns in the 'Bible-belt'. Imagine if your children were being though at school that evolution is false and creationism is total fact. Would you put up with it? The fact is, most people believe what they believe today because they were thought it by their parents and/or other institutions. I would be a 'militant atheist' because I totally disagree with this indoctrination; if the people that hold these beliefs start to effect your own world there is a point where you have to put your foot down and fight back. There are many other examples of this, not just indoctrination of young children intro believing something that has no evidence.

    Ehm.., if you were a militant athiest then why the fúck would you
    A/ chose to live in a bible belt and
    B/ send your kids to a school that taught creationism?
    :confused:


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    #125
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    You mean like Irish being a compulsory importand and crucial part of education:D?

    Does the Irish language exist?

    But yes I understand your point, I don't think students should be forced to learn Irish if they aren't competent with it.


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    #126
    raah!
    Registered Users Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭raah!


    Daroxtar wrote: »
    Ehm.., if you were a militant athiest then why the fúck would you
    A/ chose to live in a bible belt and
    B/ send your kids to a school that taught creationism?
    :confused:

    Because everyone in the world should be the same, obviously. :rolleyes:


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    #127
    gogo.ie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13 ✭gogo.ie


    :D:D


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    #128
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Daroxtar wrote: »
    Ehm.., if you were a militant athiest then why the fúck would you
    A/ chose to live in a bible belt and
    B/ send your kids to a school that taught creationism?
    :confused:

    How about if you had been born and bred in a town (that just happened to be in the Bible Belt) for all of your life. And there was no secular school for a hundred miles. Why should you be forced out of the town because of some people who believe something that denies reality?


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    #129
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Daroxtar wrote: »
    If the universe is truly infinite then there must be a god somewhere. If its finite then the odds decrease drastically

    Ok, the universe is infinite so there MUST be something out there that denies the laws of physics.

    ... yeah, I guess you might have to think that one through a little harder.


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    #130
    Daroxtar
    Registered Users Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Daroxtar


    How about if you had been born and bred in a town (that just happened to be in the Bible Belt) for all of your life. And there was no secular school for a hundred miles. Why should you be forced out of the town because of some people who believe something that denies reality?
    Home schooling...if you cant beat them........:D


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    #131
    drkpower
    Registered Users Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭drkpower


    Daroxtar wrote: »
    If the universe is truly infinite then there must be a god somewhere. If its finite then the odds decrease drastically

    On that basis, then there must be an infinite number of Gods. Which to choose? Im gonna go for the all-you-can-eat-do-the-fcuk-what-you-want-god. Because, by your logic, he must exist, right?


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    #132
    Daroxtar
    Registered Users Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Daroxtar


    drkpower wrote: »
    On that basis, then there must be an infinite number of Gods. Which to choose? Im gonna go for the all-you-can-eat-do-the-fcuk-what-you-want-god. Because, by your logic, he must exist, right?

    Only if the universe is infinite


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    #133
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Daroxtar wrote: »
    Only if the universe is infinite

    Yes, if the universe is infinite then there is something that could break the laws of physics ... :confused:


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    #134
    raah!
    Registered Users Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭raah!


    He could rephrase that into the multiverse theory. Which humourously enough is a strong counter to the "fine tuning" argument used by deists.

    If there's an infinity of universes with different laws of physics, and these universes make their own universes. Then there could easily be some sort of god in one of those, who makes other universes. Also, it means that all universes have time coordinates at their big bangs, or whatever creation events they have. Just that these are coordinates in the universe from which they sprang.

    Also that might all be wrong, but I loves me a bit of casuistry.


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    #135
    ascanbe
    Registered Users Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭ascanbe


    Killer Pigeon wrote: »
    Right look, if one is able to disprove the existence of an afterlife, then there is no point in believing, having faith in or even discussing matters of religion. And I don't think it is impossible for humans to disprove the existence of an afterlife.

    Perhaps my use of the phrase 'stamp-out' was wrong. I don't wish to put in place regime like that of Russia under Stalin or Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge.

    Yeah, fair enough.
    The possibility of support for that kind of tyranny was all i was disagreeing with. ;)


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    #136
    gogo.ie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13 ✭gogo.ie


    :)


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    #137
    Daroxtar
    Registered Users Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Daroxtar


    Killer Pigeon wrote: »
    Yes, if the universe is infinite then there is something that could break the laws of physics ... :confused:
    Indeed, obvious really. And there's a planet whose lifeform is mattresses. If we can find that planet then we could stop manufacturing mattresses and just harvest them. Infinity is a wondrous thing. If it exists.


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    #138
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Daroxtar wrote: »
    Indeed, obvious really. And there's a planet whose lifeform is mattresses. If we can find that planet then we could stop manufacturing mattresses and just harvest them. Infinity is a wondrous thing. If it exists.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNsrK6P9QvI


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    #139
    3hn2givr7mx1sc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    I picked the second one - high probability or something.

    I'm not a staunch Catholic or anything anywhere near it, but I do believe in God and stuff.
    Would go to Mass more often, but my Da and Ma aren't really arsed about religion.


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    #140
    raah!
    Registered Users Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭raah!


    There could be an infinte expanse with the same laws of physics. For the statement to be correct you have to say "the infinite is infinte, and the laws of physics vary across infinity"


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    #141
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    raah! wrote: »
    There could be an infinte expanse with the same laws of physics. For the statement to be correct you have to say "the infinite is infinte, and the laws of physics vary across infinity"

    Did you get that quote from somewhere, just curious.


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    #142
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Why is this thread called "The Great AH Census of Religion", when it's not actually about religion?

    It's not really great either.


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    #143
    Misanthrope
    Closed Accounts Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Misanthrope


    Daroxtar wrote: »
    Ehm.., if you were a militant athiest then why the fúck would you
    A/ chose to live in a bible belt and
    B/ send your kids to a school that taught creationism?
    :confused:

    Because he's militant.:D


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    #144
    Misanthrope
    Closed Accounts Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Misanthrope


    drkpower wrote: »
    On that basis, then there must be an infinite number of Gods. Which to choose? Im gonna go for the all-you-can-eat-do-the-fcuk-what-you-want-god. Because, by your logic, he must exist, right?

    Absolutely BRILLIANT!Lmao


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    #145
    landsleaving
    Registered Users Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    In the vein of the 'male or female button' thread, why don't we all just have our political, religious, etc. beliefs in our sigs or somethng, for easier categorisation? We could insult each other so much more effectively that way.

    Landsleaving: liberal pinko do gooder god fearing atheist right wing fascist drunk babbling idiotic pro abortion anti drugs pro headshops anti abortion pro drugs high sober cheese gay fianna fail labour tories socialist worker party china bisexual america theirry henry ireland nationalist democrat patriot straight philistine peter beardsley

    Does that clarify everything into a neat little pigeonhole?


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    #146
    Thuck_Fat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭Thuck_Fat


    sligopark wrote: »
    And by pointing out that energy has no weight yet we rely on it every day to boil water yet deny its existence in the human body - thank you

    I did not say energy has no weight, nor did I deny the existence of energy in the human body. I was merely pointing out that the electrical energy that flows through our brain/nervous system cannot be weighed/has no weight.
    sligopark wrote: »
    I think youm mean profit now rather than after death profit ;)

    I don't understand? I was talking about resource-wars :confused:


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    #147
    raah!
    Registered Users Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭raah!


    Killer Pigeon wrote: »
    Did you get that quote from somewhere, just curious.
    Hahahah, no and I meant to say "the universe is infinte".


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    #148
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    gogo.ie wrote: »
    :)

    Every single post you've posted on boards is a smiley. Are you just trying to advertise gogo.ie?


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    #149
    DOC09UNAM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    Killer Pigeon wrote: »
    Every single post you've posted on boards is a smiley. Are you just trying to advertise gogo.ie?
    Maybe he's a computer who can only express emotions with smileys.


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    #150
    ascanbe
    Registered Users Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭ascanbe


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    Why is this thread called "The Great AH Census of Religion", when it's not actually about religion?

    It's not really great either.

    :D:D:D:D


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    #151
    Orizio
    Registered Users Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    This thread says a lot about the people who post on boards ie. Imagine what the results would be if this poll was of the entire Irish people.


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