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Killer Pigeon

Stinicker wrote: »

Perhaps you'd rather all be atheists and have no morals at all?

Look at Sweden, 85% of them are atheists and are getting on grand. Morals are based on reasoning and philosophy, not on the belief in a supreme magic man in the sky.

AnonoBoy

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Morals are based on reasoning and philosophy, not on the belief in a supreme magic man in the sky.

As of today we call him The Chocolate Monster around these parts.

Linky

Killer Pigeon

AnonoBoy wrote: »

As of today we call him The Chocolate Monster around these parts.

No, no, no! The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the true church:

http://www.venganza.org/

sam34

panda100 wrote: »

How can you not like Alive?Its bleedin priceless! My fave section is 'The Satan in training' bit on the back page. Thats quality.

they actually have a "satan in training" bit???

wtf


what sort of stuff do they have in that?

storm2811

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

No, no, no! The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the true church:

http://www.venganza.org/

How many more times must I tell you people that the all mighty shape shifting octopus is the one true god?!

http://www.tarvu.com/

I never get this magazine,feel so left out,I've done nothing to the christians who came to the door trying to preach to us apart from telling them to go away and to praise satan?

The_Minister

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

No, no, no! The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the true church:

http://www.venganza.org/

Blasphemy!

AnonoBoy

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

No, no, no! The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the true church:

http://www.venganza.org/

Get with the times man. It's all about El Monstruo Del Choco these days.








(Also I can't eat wheat)

Stinicker

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Look at Sweden, 85% of them are atheists and are getting on grand. Morals are based on reasoning and philosophy, not on the belief in a supreme magic man in the sky.

Have you seen the Swedish reported crime rates recently?
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/countries-with-highest-reported-crime-rates.html

It doesn't look too rosy compared to countries that value our Christian ideals and have at least Moral and Ethical values.

desertcircus

Priceless. It never occurred to you that that chart was more interesting for the reporting than for the "crime"?

Surely you wondered why Canada was on the list and South Africa wasn't...or at the very least, you noticed that every one of those countries was culturally Christian?

Nevyn

NTMK wrote: »

A massive Pentagram on your front door should stop them:D

It doesn't, it means they refer you to the legion of mary and you get medals and rosary beads put in the door and they call around to 'have a chat' esp if you have kids.

Irish Halo

Thaedydal wrote: »

It doesn't, it means they refer you to the legion of mary and you get medals and rosary beads put in the door and they call around to 'have a chat' esp if you have kids.

Speaking from experience?

Killer Pigeon

Stinicker wrote: »

Have you seen the Swedish reported crime rates recently?
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/countries-with-highest-reported-crime-rates.html

It doesn't look too rosy compared to countries that value our Christian ideals and have at least Moral and Ethical values.

I really question that source you just gave, frankly I see it as utter bull and not to reflect actual reality. I'm shocked that the US isn't even on that map.

Kiwi_knock

I remember reading an article in Alive about Joe Little (RTE religious correspondent) and talking about his socialist background and how this made his reporting biased. It ended by saying not to trust every word out the mouth of a son of Trotsky. I found it a quite reliable piece of journalism and certainly opened by eyes to the Red element of RTE.

Coriolanus

he highest reported crime rates clearly indicates that countries of Europe are the least safe countries in the world. Africa and Asia even though, not that economically sound are far safer as compared to the ten countries listed on this map.

Iceland with 14727 approx. crimes is the most unsafe country of the world

Yeah... I'm going to guess that considering these nations are amongst the most advanced and civilly sound in the world, that the reported crime stats include everything from murders to petty crime and minor misdemeanours.

AnonoBoy

Stinicker wrote: »

It doesn't look too rosy compared to countries that value our Christian ideals and have at least Moral and Ethical values.

I object to your use of the word 'our' there buddy.

Killer Pigeon

Stinicker wrote: »

Have you seen the Swedish reported crime rates recently?
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/countries-with-highest-reported-crime-rates.html

It doesn't look too rosy compared to countries that value our Christian ideals and have at least Moral and Ethical values.

Here are some sources that are referenced:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_tot_cri-crime-total-crimes

http://www.data360.org/graph_group.aspx?Graph_Group_Id=441


As you may find religious countries are quite prominent.

Stinicker

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

I really question that source you just gave, frankly I see it as utter bull and not to reflect actual reality. I'm shocked that the US isn't even on that map.

Let me see,

Joseph Stalin
Benito Mussolini
Pol Pot
Mao Zedong
Jim Jones
Napolean
Kim Jong iL

Such great moral atheists, I guess they got rid of about quarter of a billion people, but being an Atheist that doesn't matter as we are just intelligent animals who means nothing to the world. I guess if we all took this liberal atheist approach we'd all be atheist and all commit suicide enmass to prevent the polar icecaps from melting.

Nevyn

Irish Halo wrote: »

Speaking from experience?

Yes.

Love the bullshít that if you are not christian you can't have morals and/or ethics.

Nevyn

Stinicker wrote: »

Let me see,

Joseph Stalin
Benito Mussolini
Pol Pot
Mao Zedong
Jim Jones
Napolean
Kim Jong iL

Such great moral atheists, I guess they got rid of about quarter of a billion people, but being an Atheist that doesn't matter as we are just intelligent animals who means nothing to the world. I guess if we all took this liberal atheist approach we'd all be atheist and all commit suicide enmass to prevent the polar icecaps from melting.

Oh please like christian king, emperors and popes didn't slaughter a hell of a lot more people over the centuries.

Killer Pigeon

Stinicker wrote: »

Let me see,

Joseph Stalin
Benito Mussolini
Pol Pot
Mao Zedong
Jim Jones
Napolean
Kim Jong iL

Such great moral atheists, I guess they got rid of about quarter of a billion people, but being an Atheist that doesn't matter as we are just intelligent animals who means nothing to the world. I guess if we all took this liberal atheist approach we'd all be atheist and all commit suicide enmass to prevent the polar icecaps from melting.

OMG!!!! What they did was based on ideology not on their belief in God.

Oh yeah, you forgot to mention Adolf Hitler, oops, he was Roman Catholic.

Oh yeah, the Spanish Inquisition, forgot about them and the burning of hundreds and thousands of people because of the beliefs and accusations of 'witchcraft'.

One more thing, you're not addressing the statistics I gave you above ^^^

Edit: Forgot to mention the crusades.

desertcircus

Step 1: Display a nonsense map and claim it supports your claim.

Step 2: Look on in dismay as people merrily point out the gaping holes in your ideas.

Step 3: Ignore that. You don't have time for silly things like logic.

Seriously, though: if atheists were really congenitally amoral, your list would be about a million times longer.

AnonoBoy

The use of UHT milk vs. fresh milk can also be correlated to crime rates too.

But you won't find people trying to blame one on the other because that would be just incredibly stupid.

Ickle Magoo

Stinicker wrote: »

Let me see,

Joseph Stalin
Benito Mussolini
Pol Pot
Mao Zedong
Jim Jones
Napolean
Kim Jong iL

Such great moral atheists, I guess they got rid of about quarter of a billion people, but being an Atheist that doesn't matter as we are just intelligent animals who means nothing to the world.

You are just itching to godwin, aren't you? You claim atheism is a hotbed of immoral degeneracy and all you can come up with is seven names? Pffft. :pac:

What about all the other millions of atheists that weren't against organised religion purely to further their own megalomaniacal agendas? Or all those killed in the crusades or by religious nutters? Is it only immoral when done by an atheist nutter?

Stinicker wrote: »

I guess if we all took this liberal atheist approach we'd all be atheist and all commit suicide enmass to prevent the polar icecaps from melting.

I'm not even sure where to start with that...do you think the world is flat, perchance?

Scarinae

AnonoBoy wrote: »

The use of UHT milk vs. fresh milk can also be correlated to crime rates too.

But you won't find people trying to blame one on the other because that would be just incredibly stupid.

Milk? You've got it wrong, it's actually all about bread usage (which makes sense, because milk is an ingredient in bread). Check out these statistics:

- More than 98 percent of convicted felons are bread eaters.
- Fully HALF of all children who grow up in bread-consuming households score below average on standardized tests.
- In the 18th century, when virtually all bread was baked in the home, the average life expectancy was less than 50 years; infant mortality rates were unacceptably high; many women died in childbirth; and diseases such as typhoid, yellow fever and influenza ravaged whole nations.
- More than 90 percent of violent crimes are committed within 24 hours of eating bread.
- Bread is made from a substance called "dough." It has been proven that as little as one pound of dough can be used to suffocate a mouse. The average American eats more bread than that in one month!
- Primitive tribal societies that have no bread exhibit a low occurrence of cancer, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's disease and osteoporosis.
- Bread has been proven to be addictive. Subjects deprived of bread and given only water to eat begged for bread after only two days.
- Bread is often a "gateway" food item, leading the user to "harder" items such as butter, jelly, peanut butter and even cold cuts.
- Bread has been proven to absorb water. Since the human body is more than 90 percent water, it follows that eating bread could lead to your body being taken over by this absorptive food product, turning you into a soggy, gooey bread-pudding person.
- Newborn babies can choke on bread.
- Bread is baked at temperatures as high as 400 degrees Fahrenheit! That kind of heat can kill an adult in less than one minute.
- Most American bread eaters are utterly unable to distinguish between significant scientific fact and meaningless statistical babbling.

Coriolanus

Fishie wrote: »

Milk? You've got it wrong, it's actually all about bread usage (which makes sense, because milk is an ingredient in bread). Check out these statistics:

That's nearly as bad as the prevalence of dihydrogen monoxide in todays industrialsed world! :eek::mad:

Radharc na Sleibhte

wild_cat wrote: »

Anyway how do I get this to stop?

Wait in your house until the letter box opens and they feed it through.
Immediately grab the paper, open the door and hit him into a pulp.
Then give his jap eye a paper cut.

PeterIanStaker

panda100 wrote: »

My fave section is 'The Satan in training' bit on the back page.

Ah he's a pussy!

Alive is for members of the Joe Duffy appreciation society. It and the Sindo are two of the biggest wastes of paper in the country.

Mike 1972

Stinicker wrote: »

I don't consider this "Junk Mail"

How is this relevant ?

Stinicker wrote: »

Benito Mussolini.

FAIL !

Stinicker

Mike 1972 wrote: »

How is this relevant ?

It is very relevant to me.

Coriolanus

Stinicker wrote: »

It is very relevant to me.

So basically, provided you don't agree with the occupants definition of what is and is not junk mail, you feel perfectly entitled to put things in their mailbox?