The Dark Knight Rises - Pre-release Discussion [** NO SPOILERS PLEASE **]

Sad Professor

I think Nolan's take on Bane is that he's Batman's physical and mental equal rather than his superior. There's no need to make him into a freakish superhuman like he was in the comics.

It should also be kept in mind that this film takes place 8 years after the events of TDK. Batman isn't as strong as he used to be. Based on the trailers it looks like he's a pretty bad way before Bane even shows up.

Tigger

bane will probably break bat's back also there are rumers that bane will cgi morph bigger though its to be seen

PauloConn

Tigger wrote: »

to bane or hardy?

Either, but in this case Hardy. Wouldn't put anyone up against comic book Bane.....

Tigger

PauloConn wrote: »

Either, but in this case Hardy. Wouldn't put anyone up against comic book Bane.....

i'm a lot bigger than hardy tbh

ricero

Tigger wrote: »

i'm a lot bigger than hardy tbh

MJ23

I went to Dark Knight 4 times. Going to go to this at least 6 times. Cant wait. It's going to be deadly. Bane is going to be brilliant.

ricero

would not be surprised if the kid talking to JGL in the trailer is dick grayson

CL7

Tigger wrote: »

warrior or bronson are both excellent films

an i really hope he'll be big enough but 5'9"? and 14 stone is very small



for a supervillan

I wouldn't worry too much about it. Adrien brody has the body of a teenage girl and they made him look a decent enough size (not big by any means) in Predators. I'm sure Tom Hardy will look huge in this.

Tigger

ricero wrote: »

that guy is probably taller

WolfForager

Tigger wrote: »

watched "this means war" last night with herself

Tom Hardy is tiny he's gonna have to wear stilts not to look silly next to Bale

Your argument is invalid.

krudler

his back is crazy, I'd kill for that kind of muscle

Handsome Bob

Hardy filmed this means war before tdkr, he actually did reshoots for this means war after wrapping on tdkr and there are comparison photos going around. Google it, it just shows how much he stacked on for tdkr.

Kylo Ren

ricero wrote: »

would not be surprised if the kid talking to JGL in the trailer is dick grayson

Or JGL is Dick Grayson!

WolfForager

Bale's physical transformations over the years have been ridiculous too.

tony1kenobi

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Unless you're some kind of heavyweight boxer, or some guy with no fear, if any normal person walking down the steet saw someone looking like that, they would be just a teensy weensy bit scared.

I'd start singing "deeply dippy...." at him.

spankmaster2000

I'm starting to sound like a big jerk over on the Avengers thread; saying that I'm not a big fan of Joss Whedon; but, I've just read that he was originally in the running for the Batman reboot that Christopher Nolan eventually won.

http://www.slashfilm.com/rejected-film-projects-joss-whedon-talks-batman-movie/

I sincerely hope that after TDKR is done, and Warner Brothers want another reboot; they don't get him on the case.
Maybe I'll be proven wrong in a few year's time; but I don't think he'd be suited for it at all!

pixelburp

Can't believe people are bringing up Hardy's height, again. Hello, magic of cinema and all that? They can create convincing alien worlds, populated by 9-foot blue cat people, I'm fairly confident they're capable of making Tom Hardy appear the towering, imposing figure Bane needs to be.

spankmaster2000

Well; in order for him to be imposing he doesn't necessarily have to be tall, does he?
I mean; there have been plenty of videos and pictures of them standing side by side, and by now it's looking fairly sure that he's not going to blow up to become a 12 foot tall monster.

Maybe it's just me; but the height thing doesn't really matter. I have faith that Hardy / Nolan can portray him as an suffeciently menacing character.

Goldstein

pixelburp wrote: »

Can't believe people are bringing up Hardy's height, again. Hello, magic of cinema and all that? They can create convincing alien worlds, populated by 9-foot blue cat people, I'm fairly confident they're capable of making Tom Hardy appear the towering, imposing figure Bane needs to be.

Ya, it's a total non-issue. Just take a look at Bronson and see all doubts assuaged. The guy is immensely physically imposing but much more importantly for me demonstrated an intense visceral quality that's far more intimidating than mere bulk alone. I didn't even know what height he was before this. Ian McKellan was not twice the height of Elijah Wood in the LOTR films and they worked just fine so I think they can manage to compensate for a three inch differential in height for TDKR. Time to put this to bed, seriously. Hardy will be great.

Sad Professor

Nolan's not really into that kind of Green Mile/LOTR-style camera trickery though. Aside from lifts and a few low camera angles, I don't think he's doing anything to make Hardy seem bigger. Bale is still visibly taller than him in the trailers. It's Hardy's acting and presence that will ultimately sell the character. Anyone expecting him to look huge in the film will probably be disappointed.

Goldstein

Sad Professor wrote: »

Nolan's not really into that kind of Green Mile/LOTR-style camera trickery though. Aside from lifts and a few low camera angles, I don't think he's doing anything to make Hardy seem bigger. Bale is still visibly taller than him in the trailers. It's Hardy's acting and presence that will ultimately sell the character. Anyone expecting him to look huge in the film will probably be disappointed.

True, but I don't think there's any necessity for much trickery. I've seen enough Kylie videos and episodes of Buffy to know they can get around height issues quite easily and convincingly.

He has got him wearing height boosting shoes alright I read to bring him closer to Bale's height. Bane's shaved head coupled with Batman's mask ears could also be part of the perception. I'm not sure what people wanted Nolan to do - the Gattaca solution?

Handsome Bob

Handsome Bob wrote: »

Hardy filmed this means war before tdkr, he actually did reshoots for this means war after wrapping on tdkr and there are comparison photos going around. Google it, it just shows how much he stacked on for tdkr.

Bottom two pics:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvq98npgwe1qd9vcjo1_1280.jpg

Frank Bullitt

WolfForager wrote: »

Bale's physical transformations over the years have been ridiculous too.

Pretty sure this isn't that accurate anyway, he did say that he didnt have to put on as much weight for TDK as he did for Begins as the suit had a bigger look or something to that effect.

Tigger

Sad Professor wrote: »

Nolan's not really into that kind of Green Mile/LOTR-style camera trickery though. Aside from lifts and a few low camera angles, I don't think he's doing anything to make Hardy seem bigger. Bale is still visibly taller than him in the trailers. It's Hardy's acting and presence that will ultimately sell the character. Anyone expecting him to look huge in the film will probably be disappointed.

me

i didn't realise he was titchey (4.5" smaller than bale) in bronson and warrior he liiks big ok but seriously look at a bit of "this means war" and you will see what i mean

Sad Professor

Gintonious wrote: »

Pretty sure this isn't that accurate anyway, he did say that he didnt have to put on as much weight for TDK as he did for Begins as the suit had a bigger look or something to that effect.

He's not nearly as big in TDK. He actually misunderstood what Nolan wanted and ended up getting too big for Begins. I think they had to make the suit bigger than they had planned in order to fit him.

Tigger

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Unless you're some kind of heavyweight boxer, or some guy with no fear, if any normal person walking down the steet saw someone looking like that, they would be just a teensy weensy bit scared.

aw will you stop he 5'9" and 14 stone ffs

this pic makes me think he's going to morph as Bane tho

Sad Professor

There isn't going to be any morphing. If there was it would be in the trailer. Besides, Bane's tubes serve a completely different purpose than they did in the comics.

Tigger

Sad Professor wrote: »

There isn't going to be any morphing. If there was it would be in the trailer. Besides, Bane's tubes serve a completely different purpose than they did in the comics.

or thats the twist?

pixelburp

Sad Professor wrote: »

Nolan's not really into that kind of Green Mile/LOTR-style camera trickery though. Aside from lifts and a few low camera angles, I don't think he's doing anything to make Hardy seem bigger. Bale is still visibly taller than him in the trailers. It's Hardy's acting and presence that will ultimately sell the character. Anyone expecting him to look huge in the film will probably be disappointed.

Ah I don't expect him to be huge, height-wise, but there's unecessary talk now and previously about Hardy's standing height as an apparent negative. Bane in this film quite clearly has a huge amount of physicality and presence, which is more than what one needs

Tigger wrote: »

or thats the twist?

Uhm, no. No chance. It would be completely against the general tone of the movies to introduce some form of nonsense mutating, it would cheapen everything that's happened previously.

paddy kerins

Just seen that the Savoy is showing Begins and TDK till Thursday