The 2010 Boards.ie Draft (Discussion and Reaction)

The Volt · 28-01-2010 9:07pm

Vince135792003 wrote: »

Steamboat was the NWA champion. Could he have still picked Youngblood?

He was NWA champion after the WCW belt came in so yes I think so.

SlickRic · 28-01-2010 9:07pm

Bubs101 wrote: »

I think Vince is right, that programme wasn't a mega draw and even if it was it's a bit rich to subscribe that to Steamboat. Do think he was a good pick though just can;t understand why you didn't take youngblood as well

i didn't subscribe the whole thing to Steamboat, but it's a bit rich to say he wasn't a big part of it at least.

i didn't take Youngblood because Steamboat's a former World Champion.

Vince135792003 · 28-01-2010 9:09pm

Voltwad wrote: »

He was NWA champion after the WCW belt came in so yes I think so.

So I can pick tag teams were 1 person was the NWA champ pre WCW?!

Spongey1975 · 28-01-2010 9:11pm

Bubs101 wrote: »

I think Vince is right, that programme wasn't a mega draw and even if it was it's a bit rich to subscribe that to Steamboat. Do think he was a good pick though just can;t understand why you didn't take youngblood as well

Didnt think anybody could take a partner with Steamboat. Was he not a NWA World Heavyweight Champion? Thought i seen the NWA in the list of world champions in the rules

waltersobchak · 28-01-2010 9:11pm

World Titles: World titles are considered as the following: WWE, World Heavyweight Title/WCW, TNA and NWA (Note: For the benefit of the game as a whole and to reflect the realistic loss in prestige of the NWA Title, only holders of the NWA Title up until the WCW World Championship came into use will be regarded as World Champions for the purposes of the game)

SlickRic · 28-01-2010 9:11pm

Vince135792003 wrote: »

So I can pick tag teams were 1 person was the NWA champ pre WCW?!

that would open things up quite nicely on a couple of fronts.

Spongey1975 · 28-01-2010 9:12pm

guess i was beaten to the point there

SlickRic · 28-01-2010 9:14pm

so i couldn't pick Youngblood?

I'm feeling confused.

Vince135792003 · 28-01-2010 9:16pm

SlickRic wrote: »

I'm feeling confused.

So am I. I think I need this one spelt out for me. Could he have picked Youngblood?

waltersobchak · 28-01-2010 9:16pm

I cant see whats confusing about it to people the NWA title was the belt before the WCW belt so anyone who held it is a World Champion

EDIT: No because Steamboat is a one time NWA World Champion

The Volt · 28-01-2010 9:16pm

SlickRic wrote: »

so i couldn't pick Youngblood?

I'm feeling confused.

You could have as far as I know. I think it was 1994 when Steamboat was NWA Champion? And WCW was in full swing then.

Vince135792003 · 28-01-2010 9:19pm

Voltwad wrote: »

I think it was 1994 when Steamboat was NWA Champion? And WCW was in full swing then.

No. It was 5 years earlier.

SlickRic · 28-01-2010 9:20pm

Voltwad wrote: »

You could have as far as I know. I think it was 1994 when Steamboat was NWA Champion? And WCW was in full swing then.

he won the NWA Title in '89.

i really would like this cleared up.

waltersobchak · 28-01-2010 9:20pm

Voltwad wrote: »

You could have as far as I know. I think it was 1994 when Steamboat was NWA Champion? And WCW was in full swing then.

Steamboat was NWA champion in 1989

Mr.Nice Guy · 28-01-2010 9:21pm

As waltersobchak said he couldn't have taken a partner with Steamboat as he held the NWA Title prior to the WCW Title coming on the scene.

Jolt2007 · 28-01-2010 9:21pm

Steamboat held the NWA title before the WCW title came to existence so he couldn't be picked with someone else. Anyone that held the title from 1991 onwards can be picked with someone else. That's the way I'm reading it as.

D2D · 28-01-2010 9:21pm

*Walks in and sees what's happening*

*Walks back out*

Spongey1975 · 28-01-2010 9:21pm

WCW title was created in 1991 so Steamboat was a pre WCW world champ and therefore considered a world champ for our game

The Volt · 28-01-2010 9:23pm

According to Wiki, the WCW Championship was created in 1991. Therefore any NWA title reigns after 1991 are not recognized as World Title Reigns under draft rules as far as I can see.

Jolt2007 · 28-01-2010 9:24pm

What about when the NWA title was basically the TNA title? Was that ever cleared up? Too lazy to go check again myself.

waltersobchak · 28-01-2010 9:25pm

Jolt2007 wrote: »

What about when the NWA title was basically the TNA title? Was that ever cleared up? Too lazy to go check again myself.

Anyone who won the NWA/TNA Heavyweight title or TNA World Title are the same basically

Mr.Nice Guy · 28-01-2010 9:27pm

Basically, from Shane Douglas on these guys are not acknowledged as world champions in the game.

I think it was flahavaj that made the suggestion to avoid wrestlers being given a recognition that they didn't really warrant. (I know that's a very subjective statement to make but it was felt this would be of benefit to the game and I would agree on that)

SlickRic · 28-01-2010 9:30pm

anyway...

i'm happy with just Steamboat.

Jolt2007 · 28-01-2010 9:33pm

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Basically, from Shane Douglas on these guys are not acknowledged as world champions in the game.

I think it was flahavaj that made the suggestion to avoid wrestlers being given a recognition that they didn't really warrant. (I know that's a very subjective statement to make but it was felt this would be of benefit to the game and I would agree on that)

I'd agree with that but to be clear though is it from 91 the title doesn't count or 94 when Douglas won it? I'd say it should be 94 myself.

Mr.Nice Guy · 28-01-2010 9:35pm

Jolt2007 wrote: »

I'd agree with that but to be clear though is it from 91 the title doesn't count or 94 when Douglas won it? I'd say it should be 94 myself.

I took it to mean 94 when there was the split.

Jolt2007 · 28-01-2010 9:40pm

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I took it to mean 94 when there was the split.

I did too but reading the rules the wording "up until the WCW World Championship came into use" does make it sound like 91. I guess I'm just confusing thing now for everyone

Spongey1975 · 28-01-2010 9:58pm

Between 91 and 94 the NWA World Heavyweight Championship was used as the title belt in WCW. Shane Douglas was the first NWA champ after WCW split from the NWA. For the purposes of this game its from this reign onwards that dont count as World Champs (with the exception of the use of TNA of the championship as their belt). 1991 was mentioned above as thats when WCW started.

Bubs101 · 28-01-2010 10:00pm

I completely forgot he won that. Sorry

SlickRic wrote: »

you are right.

but by those criteria of empty seats, etc, realistically, nobody bar about 10 people could really call their picks a big 'draw' so.

i was more coming from the 'making money' angle.

Hogan, Austin, Rock, Flair, HHH, (arguable seen as he was around during the Austin/Rock era), HBK arguable enough, plus a couple of pre-70s wrestlers I don't want to mention, by your criteria.

i'm not criticising your criteria, just trying to justify my use of the term 'draw'.

'draw' may have to turn into a term we don't use!

I think that if you get a big heel then Steamboat will draw because he's a brilliant babyface, like Rey, but like Rey I don't think he can draw against just anybody. It's all circumstancial

Jolt2007 · 28-01-2010 10:04pm

I'm just going by the ever reliable Wiki and there's different champs listed during those years as NWA and WCW champ. I always thought they were the same too
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WCW_World_Heavyweight_Champions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NWA_World_Heavyweight_Champions

SlickRic · 28-01-2010 10:12pm

Bubs101 wrote: »

I think that if you get a big heel then Steamboat will draw because he's a brilliant babyface, like Rey, but like Rey I don't think he can draw against just anybody. It's all circumstancial

fair enough, and i do agree.

i still think the industry is fairly low on actual legitimate draws then.

The 2010 Boards.ie Draft (Discussion and Reaction)

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