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Dairy chit chat II

  • 23-11-2016 08:17AM
    #1
    Mooooo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭


    One morning I need to get the cows done early dumbass here let's the wire down directing to parlour and cows head for a gallop to the last fecking field on the pasaage


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  • #2
    kowtow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Fixture wrote:
    Lots of unqualified opinions being offered here so I'd advise any one potentially affected to talk to a good accountant before engaging with Revenue.


    +1

    Agree with that completely.

    But make sure you can get an accountant who is prepared to fight if there is actually something to fight here. I can see how harsh it appears but whether as gains or income accretions will always be taxed. A lot of the problem lies with the nature of the underlying corporate transactions and the failure to ensure farmers were properly advised at the time.

    Of course, if they had been, we might not be where we are at all.


  • #3
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,732 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Do Kerry / REVENUE expect people to pay the tax due in December 2016?


  • #4
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,857 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Welcome to Dairy chit chat II, opened this as we were close to our 10,000 post count limit on the old thread, which can be viewed here;
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057467893&page=667

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #5
    DKDairy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 ✭DKDairy


    has anyone ever used batt latch for gaps ? timer which open gaps at set time..whats yer opinion of them?


  • #6
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    3rd cow with mastitis since they have had access to the cubicles ughhhh. How much is the Glanbia liquid quote worth again? This winter milk crack isn't worth the hardship.


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  • #7
    Mooooo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Timmaay wrote: »
    3rd cow with mastitis since they have had access to the cubicles ughhhh. How much is the Glanbia liquid quote worth again? This winter milk crack isn't worth the hardship.

    What bedding you using? Changed to 10% hydrated lime from agrical and found an improvement. also yours are still on grass? perhaps dung is looser? I find they get cleaner when adjusted to indoor diet. Have way too many cows on cubicles here at the minute but have had one case recently but more to do with the teat cracking, and she wouldn't milk out in it then. STRANGE cos it it went that way before housing and the cutnheal spray seems to be doing no good. And typical best cow in place, 8th lactation calves on the button and 4% p, first time getting a mastitis tube.


  • #8
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,732 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Timmaay wrote: »
    3rd cow with mastitis since they have had access to the cubicles ughhhh. How much is the Glanbia liquid quote worth again? This winter milk crack isn't worth the hardship.
    Sold 2 offenders here to a suckler man the other day.


  • #9
    Keepgrowing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    DKDairy wrote: »
    has anyone ever used batt latch for gaps ? timer which open gaps at set time..whats yer opinion of them?

    Yes, super yoke.
    It needs an additional cover as water will eventually seep in. Highly recommended one. We set at same time as clock and cows make their own way


  • #10
    DKDairy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 ✭DKDairy


    Keepgrowing wrote: »
    Yes, super yoke.
    It needs an additional cover as water will eventually seep in. Highly recommended one. We set at same time as clock and cows make their own way

    best place to buy one? only seen on youtube


  • #11
    Keepgrowing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    DKDairy wrote: »
    best place to buy one? only seen on youtube

    I got from Glanbia. Stradbally fa services are the importers. Co Laois


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  • #12
    Keepgrowing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    DKDairy wrote: »
    best place to buy one? only seen on youtube

    http://stradballyfarmservices.com/pel/gates-gate-products/


  • #13
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Mooooo wrote: »
    What bedding you using? Changed to 10% hydrated lime from agrical and found an improvement. also yours are still on grass? perhaps dung is looser? I find they get cleaner when adjusted to indoor diet. Have way too many cows on cubicles here at the minute but have had one case recently but more to do with the teat cracking, and she wouldn't milk out in it then. STRANGE cos it it went that way before housing and the cutnheal spray seems to be doing no good. And typical best cow in place, 8th lactation calves on the button and 4% p, first time getting a mastitis tube.

    1st few days it was pure hydrated with sawdust over it, got a ton bag of 10% now. 80 cows on 60 cubicles but I locked 15 of them in the calving shed the last 3 nights to take the pressure off. Bulk tank scc around 140, it's almost definitely some bug causing it I'm thinking. 3 cows with it have been turfed back out to a fresh paddock fulltime to prevent it spreading.


  • #14
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,699 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Timmaay wrote: »
    1st few days it was pure hydrated with sawdust over it, got a ton bag of 10% now. 80 cows on 60 cubicles but I locked 15 of them in the calving shed the last 3 nights to take the pressure off. Bulk tank scc around 140, it's almost definitely some bug causing it I'm thinking. 3 cows with it have been turfed back out to a fresh paddock fulltime to prevent it spreading.

    That's a lot to do with it Tim ,overcrowding and hygiene /cleanliness .were cubicles washed and disinfected prior to housing ,how often do u run scrapers (alt least every 2 hours packed that tight )scrape down and lime cubicles twice daily ,clip cows tails


  • #15
    blackdog1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭blackdog1


    What I find works for me

    1 disenfect cubicles with boiling water and soregen ( boiling water gives it a great kill.l). I use a watering can on front half of Cubicles...you need to give it a good soak. I find this better than the sprayer. Do this once a week.

    2 lime with 10% hydrated lime and pure hydrated once a week.

    Also make sure you use a good teat dip and cull any high scc cows of possible.

    I also find of you push on silage or feed it while the cows are locked in the yard they eat and don't sit down straight away.... Gives them time for the teats to close.


  • #16
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,857 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Sawdust on it's own is bad because the bugs can live in it, not sure if 10% lime would be enough to drive the pH up high enough to kill bugs.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #17
    atlantic mist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭atlantic mist


    http://www.revenue.ie/en/practitioner/ebrief/2016/no-942016.html

    kerry lads better get the cheque books out, tough for those who didnt cash in at highs, share price has taken a dip lately


  • #18
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    That's a lot to do with it Tim ,overcrowding and hygiene /cleanliness .were cubicles washed and disinfected prior to housing ,how often do u run scrapers (alt least every 2 hours packed that tight )scrape down and lime cubicles twice daily ,clip cows tails

    I'm reasonably on the ball with all that above, cows are out by day, and at night 15 get removed so nearly a cubicle per cow. However thinking about it again this evening walking through the cubicles, most the mastitis cases now, and last winter were the larger older HO cows, and from keep growings cubicle dimensions last week, I'm beginning to think my cubicles are just far too narrow and short for them big cows, and as a result they probably are standing around too much, and not lying properly or comfortably when they do go into the cubicles. Unfortunately the big HOs are the ones who tend to be calving later so end up milking off the cubicles for longer. Could be worth lengthening all the cubicles in one shed to see if it improves anything, I'm not going to get that done this winter though. Breeding out all of the large HOs is the ultimate aim but that's slow progress also ha.


  • #19
    visatorro
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    Water heater in parlour fecked. Keep trying to shove my hands up the woman's jumper to warm them, she's not impressed.


  • #20
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,732 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    visatorro wrote: »
    Water heater in parlour fecked. Keep trying to shove my hands up the woman's jumper to warm them, she's not impressed.
    When kids are slow getting out of bed here for school, they get cold hands, makes them move fairly quick


  • #21
    OverRide
    Closed Accounts Posts: 665 ✭✭✭OverRide


    atlantic mist wrote: »
    http://www.revenue.ie/en/practitioner/ebrief/2016/no-942016.html

    kerry lads better get the cheque books out, tough for those who didnt cash in at highs, share price has taken a dip lately

    It has come to the notice of revenue that some farmers have inherited their farms without declaring the true value of said farm
    Please go out of business by using the attached form to arrange payment at the top rate on the value of said farm at today's rates


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  • #22
    kowtow
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    visatorro wrote:
    Water heater in parlour fecked. Keep trying to shove my hands up the woman's jumper to warm them, she's not impressed.


    Jeez the things those milk recorders have to put up with its a wonder they still come out to you....


  • #23
    Brown Podzol
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    http://www.revenue.ie/en/practitioner/ebrief/2016/no-942016.html

    Are the bonus shares co-op shares or Plc shares?


  • #24
    Brown Podzol
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    kowtow wrote: »
    Jeez the things those milk recorders have to put up with its a wonder they still come out to you....

    If you are a star they let you do it.


  • #25
    pedigree 6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    Brown Podzol wrote: »
    If you are a star they let you do it.
    Too far Brown. Too far.:D
    To have a great one you have to post near the edge without going over while giving the impression that your post is in earnest.


  • #26
    OverRide
    Closed Accounts Posts: 665 ✭✭✭OverRide


    Brown Podzol wrote: »
    http://www.revenue.ie/en/practitioner/ebrief/2016/no-942016.html

    Are the bonus shares co-op shares or Plc shares?

    Co Op shares
    So the revenue want to tax them when you get them and when you sell them either as a spin out of plc shares or as a CoOp share

    If that's allowed stand,new entrants to Glanbia buying at a fiver a share will be subject to gift tax for the other €50 to €70 that the shares underlying value encompasses

    Not to mention other new anomalies this would create


  • #27
    mf240
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,887 ✭✭✭mf240


    Milk collected this morning , won't know what I'm getting paid for it until the week before Christmas ,yet a glanbia worker had the audacity to ring to ask if I had the milk survey filled in.


  • #28
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    mf240 wrote: »
    Milk collected this morning , won't know what I'm getting paid for it until the week before Christmas ,yet a glanbia worker had the audacity to ring to ask if I had the milk survey filled in.

    Did you mention that in the comments section? I got a call and afew texts reminding me about it.


  • #29
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,732 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Did you mention that in the comments section? I got a call and afew texts reminding me about it.
    I filled the comments section on my one. also got a call and a text reminding me to send it in. Posted it yesterday complete with some cow ****e in the envelope


  • #30
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,732 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Had a cow stuck in the cubicles this morning. Got her out of cubicle and took her down with scraper. She walked out to field. My dad helped me. Great job to be doing before he headed off for a stress test


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  • #31
    jaymla627
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    OverRide wrote: »
    Co Op shares
    So the revenue want to tax them when you get them and when you sell them either as a spin out of plc shares or as a CoOp share

    If that's allowed stand,new entrants to Glanbia buying at a fiver a share will be subject to gift tax for the other €50 to €70 that the shares underlying value encompasses

    Not to mention other new anomalies this would create

    The 50-70 euro share value only comes into play if a spinout occurs, had to drop 10 grand on shares here to avail of co-op bonuses, and to keep availing of co-op bonuses I have to maintain the 2000 five euro shares I hold so on what planet can I get hit with a tax bill for the underlying value of shares I hold that i can't cash in, if this s***te was going on in France they would have slurry flowing around the tax offices


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