CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

kyote00 · 28-03-2020 1:16am

The 'Opel zafira' of ventilators ....

His "press" conferences are like Truman show .... product placement/name checking left, right and centre...

Wonder willl he open a few Trump Towers as field hospitals

Meanwhile, his support base are too thick to realise he is ****ting on them, while routing trillions of dollars back into Wall Street.

Blueshoe wrote: »

Ford and GM have been forced by Trump under some American emergency act to make good on their promise and open up the factories to manufacture 40,000 ventilators as they had promised.

He especially slated the GM Ceo because she stated they could only produce 6000 and not until late April. This is not in line with the contract signed by GM and Ford with the US government.

Good man Trump. One thing you got right.

Cilldara_2000 · 28-03-2020 1:16am

Heres Johnny wrote: »

Does nobody have any common sense and have to ask stupid questions?
Supermarket is 3kms away does that mean I have to starve?
How are they going to police it?

Come on people, you know what they are trying to achieve and do your very very best to adhere as far as possible and help them out.
It's brutal for everyone but we just have to alow this thing down or we are in for longer than necessary.

There are 3 of us going into work tomorrow which is 5kms from me and the function of the meeting is to set up IT for the small few that hasn't worked from home and then a crisis meeting figure how we run this business as morally and safely as we can for however long it takes and keep the rest of the staff home too except in emergencies

There is a large number of Irish people who straight think about how to break a law and get away with it rather than trying to understand what it's about it and complying. Ever notice how many gob****es will be up your hole if you drive at 50 through a village but you'll lose straight away once you speed up to 80 outside the village?

paul71 · 28-03-2020 1:16am

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

714 new cases, 17 deaths so far yesterday in Florida.

Dynamite with the fuse lit waiting to explode given the demographic.

Yeap the retirement is powder keg waiting to go off. Worlds largest nursing home.

BoatMad · 28-03-2020 1:17am

Heres Johnny wrote: »

Does nobody have any common sense and have to ask stupid questions?
Supermarket is 3kms away does that mean I have to starve?
How are they going to police it?
How will they know if I had had 1 exercise or 2 exercise today?

Come on people, you know what they are trying to achieve and do your very very best to adhere as far as possible and help them out.
It's brutal for everyone but we just have to alow this thing down or we are in for longer than necessary.

There are 3 of us going into work tomorrow which is 5kms from me and the function of the meeting is to set up IT for the small few that hasn't worked from home and then a crisis meeting figure how we run this business as morally and safely as we can for however long it takes and keep the rest of the staff home too except in emergencies

Hint , They might just read the directives carefully , before they comment ,

MrMusician18 · 28-03-2020 1:17am

Alun wrote: »

Because that isn't what was said, simple, read the press release, properly this time. What if you don't have a shop within 2km of where you live?

Jesus, do people really need this spelled out for them?? Ffs. This past few weeks has been illuminating. I never knew there was as many thicks in this country as there are.

Assuming you are not an essential worker:
The whole idea is you stay inside all the time except to get food and medicine, and that should be limited to the absolute minimum.

You are allowed outside for air and your sanity but it must be brief and you must stay close to your home.

That is all. Is that not clear to everyone???

timhenn · 28-03-2020 1:18am

uncleoswald wrote: »

This was always going to happen. When the last restrictions were put in place it was said to be just one step in many. It wasn't enough for many but we seem to be on course to flatten the curve, although it is still early days obviously. The UK didn't have this advantage, once they realised they had made a mistake they had to make a 180, this led to confusion and some panic.

They were leaving room for more measures and rules when needed and once people were used to this new reality. Now we've increased the restrictions but left room for tougher measures in a few weeks if needed.

Some people seem to be,somewhat understandably in the circumstances, in constant outrage mode.

You're trying to make it seem like those in charge had everything under control! The facts are they have been behind on every decision they have made. They have been reacting to things happening instead of being proactive. We're high up the leaderboard of total deaths from this and it's not a leaderboard you want to be on.

We can only hope that this doesn't cost too many lives, that's all we'releft with now.

babybuilder · 28-03-2020 1:18am

The authorities make the regulations but no mention of enforcement. Typically Irish. Relying on "good will of the Irish people" We're well past that point. No mention of how shopping will be regulated. Strongest chain is only as good as its weakest link.

Deliveries and collections only in shops.

timhenn · 28-03-2020 1:18am

Ace2007 wrote: »

repost the question - that was aimed directly at me and i'll answer it

No.

elperello · 28-03-2020 1:18am

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I think off licences will close now. A good thing.

No they will be open.
A good thing.

28-03-2020 1:19am

sasta le wrote: »

https://mobile.twitter.com/SindyLJoyce/status/1243643740394328064

What's the theory behind it? Why are they more at risk?

If there's a medical / scientific reason then fair enough

Spanish Eyes · 28-03-2020 1:19am

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I think off licences will close now. A good thing.

Alcohol will still be available in the Essential Food Outlets, like supermarkets though.

fritzelly · 28-03-2020 1:19am

With every new restriction lots of peoples IQ drops by a large factor
God forbid they don't say you're not allowed out of your house except for food - roll on questions how am I supposed to do the shopping

This is it · 28-03-2020 1:19am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Nope. I take my instructions from the government, not from you

Then stop moaning about it. Run if you want, don't if you don't want to. Go early morning or late at night.

frillyleaf · 28-03-2020 1:19am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Think people are been deliberately obtuse with the 2km thing. There are no measuring tapes. They’re literally asking us to just stay close to home.

And not pack out the Phoenix park, Glendalough, beaches, other parks etc.

It’s not so hard to understand.

Yeah the first person I spoke to after the announcement said, “well how will they enforce it”

I think most people will just do as they are asked!

bekker · 28-03-2020 1:20am

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Oh please, do not be so condescending, I know all that.

But in times of crisis, needs must and people really need to get back in their box for the time being.

They can do the 2k fine. That's it.

Wasn't being condescending intentionally, but see how you could read it that way.

Merely pointing out that people generally find it difficult to put aside an addiction.

Alun · 28-03-2020 1:20am

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Jesus, do people really need this spelled out for them?? Ffs. This past few weeks has been illuminating. I never knew there was as many thicks in this country as there are.

Assuming you are not an essential worker:
The whole idea is you stay inside all the time except to get food and medicine, and that should be limited to the absolute minimum.

You are allowed outside for air and your sanity but it must be brief and you must stay close to your home.

That is all. Is that not clear to everyone???

I know, perhaps read the post I was replying to? The person I was replying to seemed to think the 2km limit applied to shopping as well. I was informing them that this wasn't the case.

BoatMad · 28-03-2020 1:20am

babybuilder wrote: »

The authorities make the regulations but no mention of enforcement. Typically Irish. Relying on "good will of the Irish people" We're well past that point. No mention of how shopping will be regulated. Strongest chain is only as good as its weakest link.

FFS , people wishing for a police state.

Just try and follow the rules , that’s enough , thanks

Ace2007 · 28-03-2020 1:20am

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

There is a large number of Irish people who straight think about how to break a law and get away with it rather than trying to understand what it's about it and complying. Ever notice how many gob****es will be up your hole if you drive at 50 through a village but you'll lose straight away once you speed up to 80 outside the village?

It's like in school or college - there are always idiots and you think, well eventually i'll move away from them and wont' have to deal with their sh!t - and you even see what they write on FB etc. But the problem now is that their actions are leading to people dying so it's actually now everyone problems that on one kicked the **** into them when they were in school.

According to that post earlier on the nurse died, by picking up the virus while treating others with the disease - so she basically died doing her job.

And yet on here tonight we have people wondering how the government are going to police the new rules - and saying they are going to give the 2 fingers to the powers to be and do their own thing.

citysights · 28-03-2020 1:21am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Great. Now instead of driving to a place that I can run or walk whilst not coming within tens, even hundreds, of metres of other humans, I have to walk or run on my busy local paths where joggers and walkers are cheek by jowl. That reduces spread how exactly?

So you want to drive to a place where you can run or walk? Why can’t you just stay at home for a few weeks. We all have to do it, none of us love it, but it’s necessary.

paul71 · 28-03-2020 1:21am

Alun wrote: »

There is no "2km" limit, where are you getting this from? You're allowed to exercise within a 2km radius of your home. Two totally different things.

Yeap, 2 pie r squared is an enormous area to run in.

Ace2007 · 28-03-2020 1:22am

timhenn wrote: »

No.

you hate being wrong don't you -

pgj2015 · 28-03-2020 1:22am

elperello wrote: »

No they will be open.
A good thing.

dont you know, anything people enjoy is not allowed, no running, no drinking etc

That is the way some people on here want things, if they dont like it then no one can do it and they seem to take a weird enjoyment out of this.

im still going for as long a run as i want btw.

BoatMad · 28-03-2020 1:22am

This is it wrote: »

Then stop moaning about it. Run if you want, don't if you don't want to. Go early morning or late at night.

yiu can run 50 km if you like , just all within 2Km of your house and on your own

babybuilder · 28-03-2020 1:22am

frillyleaf wrote: »

Yeah the first person I spoke to after the announcement said, “well how will they enforce it”

I think most people will just do as they are asked!

"Most"

gyppo · 28-03-2020 1:22am

Gael23 wrote: »

I think it’s a step too far taking away people’s freedom

Are you for real?
This is the biggest crisis you are likely to encounter in your lifetime. A small but dangerous minority cannot see just how serious this is, how stupid and reckless their actions are, and you are upset that a decision for the greater good or Irelands population is being forced on them. .......

This will pass - f**k freedom for the moment

28-03-2020 1:22am

The 2km thing applies to going outside for exercise, jogging, walking, walking the dog etc.

You can go further to your place of work.
You can go further to the supermarket.

It's that simple.

growleaves · 28-03-2020 1:22am

God forbid they don't say you're not allowed out of your house except for food - roll on questions how am I supposed to do the shopping

How am I supposed to do the shopping?

BoatMad · 28-03-2020 1:23am

pgj2015 wrote: »

dont you know, anything people enjoy is not allowed, no running, no drinking etc

That is the way some people on here want things, if they dont like it then no one can do it and they seem to take a weird enjoyment out of this.

im still going for as long a run as i want btw.

You can run all the distance you want as long as you stay within 2Km of your home thanks

Polar101 · 28-03-2020 1:23am

sonofenoch wrote: »

Whatever happened to 'power walking' .....you know the type arms swinging like a sasquatch, seems to have gone out of fashion

Last time I met one of those, she hit me with those arms when she passed by.. hard to follow physical distancing rules while you're swinging about.

RandomViewer · 28-03-2020 1:23am

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

What's the theory behind it? Why are they more at risk?

If there's a medical / scientific reason then fair enough

It'd be racist, sectarian , xenophobic, and 57 varieties of isms and phobias if you didn't humour them boss.

BoatMad · 28-03-2020 1:23am

growleaves wrote: »

How am I supposed to do the shopping?

How’d you do it before

growleaves · 28-03-2020 1:25am

dont you know, anything people enjoy is not allowed, no running, no drinking etc

Our microbial enemies will gain strength if we have a glass of wine with dinner.

pgj2015 · 28-03-2020 1:25am

BoatMad wrote: »

You can run all the distance you want as long as you stay within 2Km of your home thanks

I could run 20 miles and back and no one would even know.

retro:electro · 28-03-2020 1:25am

almostover wrote: »

One word: Responsibility. This isn't about how to get away with flouting the restrictions, it's about doing what's necessary to prevent the unnecessary deaths of your fellow citizens. Grow up!

Eh what? For what it’s worth I haven’t left my house apart from the odd isolated walk in over a week and my past posts with attest to that. I’m wondering who will actually be monitoring this, for those who do not respect the measures. Calm your tits ffs

IrishStuff09 · 28-03-2020 1:25am

Putting together a page with some online services that have been made free during this whole thing. Might interest some here

https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/giveback/

growleaves · 28-03-2020 1:25am

How’d you do it before

I can't remember.

elperello · 28-03-2020 1:25am

pgj2015 wrote: »

dont you know, anything people enjoy is not allowed, no running, no drinking etc

That is the way some people on here want things, if they dont like it then no one can do it and they seem to take a weird enjoyment out of this.

im still going for as long a run as i want btw.

Enjoy your run within the 2k I'll be monitoring you from the front porch while I enjoy a few beers

joe40 · 28-03-2020 1:26am

timhenn wrote: »

You're trying to make it seem like those in charge had everything under control! The facts are they have been behind on every decision they have made. They have been reacting to things happening instead of being proactive. We're high up the leaderboard of total deaths from this and it's not a leaderboard you want to be on.

We can only hope that this doesn't cost too many lives, that's all we'releft with now.

I'm not sure I fully agree, a lot of the measures that have been introduced would be impossible to enforce without buy in from the public.
I can speak for my own personal journey where I went from a few pints in a quiet pub is grand to I will gladly not go to the beach this weekend.
That is in the space of a fortnight. I think the vast majority of Irish people have accepted each phase as necessary and proportionate and therefore very good adherence as a result and more importantly over the coming weeks.

irishlad123456 · 28-03-2020 1:26am

So online retailers will have to close ?

Red for Danger · 28-03-2020 1:26am

Print out a form
Write in Name date address
Tick box beside your reason for leaving
sign form
Have id and form on you while outside

Mervyn Skidmore · 28-03-2020 1:27am

One thing that has become clear is the attitude of some of my colleagues. I'm working in the public sector in an "essential service". It's a very small close-knit team (so I thought). Yesterday we received notice of significant changes to our hours and work patterns. My attitude is fine, roll the sleeves up and get on with things, this is an emergency and I want to help. I feel that I'm lucky to have a job seeing all the unfortunate people laid off. Anyway, I contact some of my "team" to inform them of the changes and unfortunately from a few of them it's all "me, me, me". I'm shocked and disgusted. And before people trot out the typical "civil servant" line, two of these people have come from the private sector.

Heres Johnny · 28-03-2020 1:27am

You all know they're not trying to stop the virus but rather slow it down, right? Anything you can do to slow it down, do it.
Look after yourself and your basic needs, don't think for a second anyone is taking that away from you.

growleaves · 28-03-2020 1:27am

I’m wondering who will actually be monitoring this, for those who do not respect the measures.

They said the guards will have "high visibility". I've seen them patrolling in areas they don't usually patrol in the last few weeks.

Heres Johnny · 28-03-2020 1:28am

babybuilder wrote: »

"Most"

Most is fine to be honest.

Strazdas · 28-03-2020 1:28am

Alun wrote: »

Because that isn't what was said, simple, read the press release, properly this time. What if you don't have a shop within 2km of where you live?

If they say stay at home except to do essential shopping or pharmacy visits and you can only go for a walk near where you live, it would be pure eejitry for people to think they can go on a 10 or 20 mile spin in the car to do the shopping. At that rate you could drive from Limerick to Galway to do your shopping and claim when stopped by Gardai : "Nobody told me not to".

AlmightyCushion · 28-03-2020 1:28am

Red for Danger wrote: »

Print out a form
Write in Name date address
Tick box beside your reason for leaving
sign form
Have id and form on you while outside

Most people don't have printers. How does it work in that case?

Strazdas · 28-03-2020 1:28am

Double post

Fr Tod Umptious · 28-03-2020 1:28am

They tend to live in large close-knit multigenerational family groups and in clusters (halting sites) so the chances of community spread are probably greater.

Steve F · 28-03-2020 1:29am

IrishStuff09 wrote: »

Putting together a page with some online services that have been made free during this whole thing. Might interest some here

https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/giveback/

Brilliant,this has to be one of the best posts on this thread
Thanks

28-03-2020 1:29am

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

They tend to live in large close-knit multigenerational family groups and in clusters (halting sites) so the chances of community spread are probably greater.

may not be washing their hands five times a day either.

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03