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Who Watches the Watchmen (Our Chit Chat Thread)
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What's the difference between the submersible and their marine militaire line?
No view on Panerai though - for me it'd be something I need to have a good try on in the flesh (because it doesn't sing to me through the screen) - and since it doesn't sing to me I'd be keeping an eye on resell value too to make sure it's not a watch I'd take a huge hit on if I want to swop it out for something else down the line. Or were you thinking of buying 2nd hand?
On second look - the squarish case is kinda funky and appealing - might be one that grows on you
- though at almost 10k I'd want to buy something that I'm definitely in love with 
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What's the difference between the submersible and their marine militaire line?
No view on Panerai though - for me it'd be something I need to have a good try on in the flesh (because it doesn't sing to me through the screen) - and since it doesn't sing to me I'd be keeping an eye on resell value too to make sure it's not a watch I'd take a huge hit on if I want to swop it out for something else down the line. Or were you thinking of buying 2nd hand?
On second look - the squarish case is kinda funky and appealing - might be one that grows on you - though at almost 10k I'd want to buy something that I'm definitely in love with
itll be new but not at retail.... can get 20-25% off rrp on chrono24,
the main lines are: luminor, radiomir, submersible (which is a luminor with a bezel really) and 1940 (new hybrid case) oh and the due which is a smaller thinner luminor.
the 44 and 47mm submersibles are beasts and too big really.
i quite like these (have had various panerais down the years) but i always sell them...........0 -
itll be new but not at retail.... can get 20-25% off rrp on chrono24,
the main lines are: luminor, radiomir, submersible (which is a luminor with a bezel really) and 1940 (new hybrid case) oh and the due which is a smaller thinner luminor.
the 44 and 47mm submersibles are beasts and too big really.
i quite like these (have had various panerais down the years) but i always sell them...........
I am getting more and more into Panerai,I would be more into the more classic Luminors. The value to be had second hand is awesome, which would put me off buying new unless you for a lot more than 25%....
Cool watches, would suit a bigger watch lover such as yourself. I hope to add one at some point to my collection (first refusal when you sell this one
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folks any views on the 42mm panerai submersibles
im all over the shop at the moment, thinking of a BP fifty fathoms, zenith el primero, zenith defy chrono, panerai luminor ceramic
then i started looking at the 42mm submersibles
this
https://www.panerai.com/ie/en/collections/watch-collection/submersible/pam00683-submersible---42mm.html
or this maybe
https://www.panerai.com/ie/en/collections/watch-collection/submersible/pam00973-submersible---42mm.html
or go a bit mad...
https://www.panerai.com/ie/en/collections/watch-collection/submersible/pam00959-submersible---42mm.html
I need coffee...was looking at them and going wow thats really fecking cheap for a Panerai...150$.....then I realised that was for a strap
:o:o:o:pac::pac::pac::pac: Wanna support genocide?Cheer on the murder of women and children?The Ruzzians aren't rapey enough for you? Morally bankrupt cockroaches and islamaphobes , Israel needs your help NOW!!
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Another masterful tale from Watchfinder.
I am never upset about watches I sold a little too cheap or too early. Always more upset about ones I didn’t buy in the first place.
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Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!Join Date:Posts: 64447
Classic mistake. He didn't stay at level 4 for long enough
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Bit of a shopping sprea these last few days. I have a Poljot alarm watch coming in. Possibly a birth year watch. And a beater's beater: a well worn Seiko 5 pepsi diver auto, on a shark mesh, bought for peanuts. Bring on that post man! My ads on adverts.ie
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Bit of a shopping sprea these last few days. I have a Poljot alarm watch coming in. Possibly a birth year watch. And a beater's beater: a well worn Seiko 5 pepsi diver auto, on a shark mesh, bought for peanuts. Bring on that post man!
I have a Poljot alarm wristwatch too - wore it in the office once and the alarm went off - my colleague asked "...is there a bee in your wristwatch?" 0 -
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I just have a crap Chinese one on my vostok which I don't trust for when I get back swimming because it's popped off the springbars a couple of times when I've stretched my hand back. Ordered a Barton elite there to replace it so if my Vostok ends up at the bottom of the Atlantic, in the words of Liam Neeson, "I will look for you, I will find you, and I will...." :-P
I'm perfectly safe so
One good thing I really like about the elite silicone straps is that it comes with both a short and long end. Great for me with small wrists. Also the strap end locks into the keeper on the clasp side which is nice and stops the keeper from floating around.0 -
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Bit of a shopping sprea these last few days. I have a Poljot alarm watch coming in. Possibly a birth year watch. And a beater's beater: a well worn Seiko 5 pepsi diver auto, on a shark mesh, bought for peanuts. Bring on that post man!
Nice,those Poljot alarm watches could wake the dead!
I am starting to fall prey to scanning auction sites,since last year i have started looking through Yahoo Auctions Japan (Buyee.jp) and have had some close calls.Started harmlessly enough see could i spot interesting models ,some incredible pieces not seen outside Japan,as since i wasn't planning to start a collection,it is another way to enjoy this hobby....or so i taught.
Found a couple of Business Bells (4006-7010) that were introduced in late 1967 for a very limited time,here is a fantastic post about one of the rarest [Link]
Also found out about another very interesting and lovely Seiko,6119-6050 a "Regatta Timer" used in yacht racing.
Would absolutely love one,cool railroad bracelet,love the colors.Not cheap,usually go around €500+,one with tags recently sold €747 [Link].Here is a great post on the history of them on The Watch Site [Link].Also Spencer Klein made a video about the 6119-6053 which is the later model
The latest close call on Yahoo was on Tuesday gone,a Bell-Matic 4006-7000 from November 1966 [Link],second month of production after they were introduced in November 1966.The month before had the Holy Grail "Dolphin Caseback" which changed to the Horseshoe in December 1966 (Correction to my post in "Watch Arses" Thread where i said 1967)
"6D"- December 1966
"6N" - Novemebr 1966,one month only with the Dolphin caseback.
Early dial with"Diashock" on it only seen for a couple of months.Not sure what i was thinking even considering bidding on this as the condition is really bad,even the red marker for the alarm has worn off,it did not even have a crown!
In the picture you can see another early feature where the button for the alarm has a notch in the case,instead of the cut out later on.Another thing i believe these early models had was a longer alarm spring allowing it to last longer.Getting completely carried away thinking i could save it and Richard Askham would have no trouble fixing it up and parts would be easy to get,forgetting what horrors lie underneath and knowing me i would spend another fortune tracking down the correct bracelet.Also the hidden fees and Yahoo Auctions has this annoying feature "Automatic Extension" increasing the time when new bids come in so i couldn't just do what i had done with mine and wait till the last seconds to bid.
Eventually came to my senses not placing a bid thinking i was the wrong person for it as something like this deserves to go to a proper enthusiast who has the means to save it and knows all about it,someone like John Bentley.
Here is a list of the rarest Bell-Matics:
1. 1966 4006-7000 "Diashock" w/dolphin caseback
2. 1967 4006-7000 7030T "Business Bell"
3. 1967 4006-7019 21J US export model
4. 1967 4006-7000 "Diashock"
5. 1968 4006-7029 21J US export model
6. 1967 4006-7010 7040T "Business Bell"
7. 1968/69 4005-7000 "Date Only"
Seems to be a couple of the rare models popping up lately,here is another i never seen for sale
A 4006-7029 from March 1968 the rare 21 Jewel model, a step closer to 17 Jewels down from 27 Jewels due to the increased tax of watches over 17 Jewels,[Link].Really cool but $1650 is too much for me.Also speaking for watches for sale,found this [Link].......think he might be dreamning,the aftermarket flat link bracelet fitted i believe is incorrect even though the description says it would of been correct as the 27 Jewel model would of been fitted with the H-link like mine.
Sorry for excessive post (and more Bell-Matic stuff),wanted to post over the weekend but could not log in. 0 -
Apologize in advance for another post relating to Bell-Matics,had wanted to post this in the past, but was unable to find the picture.
While doing research on my Bell-Matic,one of the many forum posts i looked through was "Famous Seiko Wearers" on Watchuseek [Link].Really cool Thread,some interesting people mentioned wearing Seiko. One of my favorites is Ponch from Chips 1977 wearing a Seiko 6309
Also Mick Jagger wearing a 6309
Going through the Thread,found mention of a Bell-Matic that was worn by former
Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon [Link],unfortunately the picture is broken.Had searched through many pictures of him to see if i could find a picture of him wearing it.
Finally found the picture
Taken June 1977,Ariel Sharon on the right with Prime Minister Menachem Begin on the left.I believe he is wearing a 4006-6027 Bell-Matic going by the flat link bracelet and it was the more common model sold outside Japan.
Interesting as while looking through Ebay in the past (Very dangerous habit to get into :pac: ) found loads of vintage Seiko/Bell-Matic parts/watches along with other nice vintage pieces from Israel.
Ariel Sharon was a general in the Israeli Army,later went into politics and Prime Minister from 2001-2006.He died in 2014.Here is a Wikipedia page for more information on his background [Link]
Looks like he was into watches,another picture later in life showing wearing a Breitling Aerospace
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I really, really need to get a grip on the fact that I'm actually an invalid pensioner/student and not a wealthy man about town with a rake of disposable income :pac:
My wanting an Arnie, has morphed into bidding on an Arnie...
So if I stop posting all of a sudden, my wife has found the Swiss account and secret watch box 0 -
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Was in Weir's today, went onto the waiting list for a non-date sub. They had no Rolex of interest in the shop, but tried on a blue 36mm (DJ) for size and indeed it was way too small. Also noted on my form that if they get in a YM40 or Z-Blue Milgauss, that I can come in to have a try of it. Not much hope of any of that happening any time soon though
Walked past Dawson's too, but they were still closed.My ads on adverts.ie
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Was in Weir's today, went onto the waiting list for a non-date sub. They had no Rolex of interest in the shop, but tried on a blue 36mm (DJ) for size and indeed it was way too small. Also noted on my form that if they get in a YM40 or Z-Blue Milgauss, that I can come in to have a try of it. Not much hope of any of that happening any time soon though
Walked past Dawson's too, but they were still closed.
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Was in Weir's today, went onto the waiting list for a non-date sub. They had no Rolex of interest in the shop, but tried on a blue 36mm (DJ) for size and indeed it was way too small. Also noted on my form that if they get in a YM40 or Z-Blue Milgauss, that I can come in to have a try of it. Not much hope of any of that happening any time soon though
Walked past Dawson's too, but they were still closed.
Hope they come through inside the usual time for you.
I do think that there will be some people ahead of you that pass the opportunity over the next few months.
I'm seriously considering a stop off in Harrods on the next trip to London and sticking my name down for a Tudor.
It's been niggling at me since I saw FG's one a while back and I tried on a mates BlackBay Red last month and it is a lovely piece.
I've heard the wait list for the Green with Harrods is @3months.
Thing is I don't know if I'd have the cash available, or if I'd just buy and try and flip in the hope of a profit (or at least use that as the excuse when the Mrs flips :pac: )0 -
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Hope they come through inside the usual time for you.
I do think that there will be some people ahead of you that pass the opportunity over the next few months.
I'd say that's quite likely - but maybe this is wishful thinking!I'd just buy and try and flip in the hope of a profit (or at least use that as the excuse when the Mrs flips :pac: )
It's a great excuse, isn't it? I have form flipping stuff like cars, bikes, watches, computers, electronics, etc. so I can buy pretty much anything I want using this excuse My ads on adverts.ie
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Sky Helpful Fencer wrote: »Well thats ok, Hopefully it will be the new model, if rumours are true should be the best yet.
banie01 - the harods is dubious. I like the watch, but its not a limited edition, they are loads around. I cannot see it appreciating much unless you go for the quick flip. A lot were bought to be flipped and this watch will be the first out of the safe in a recession.
Thanks for that FG, my only real worry on it is the bracelet comfort.
Can't really afford it until next year anyway
Might even pick up one for less than RRP at that stage.
On the topic of other things I can't afford.
Just bought an Arnie prospex SNJ025 0 -
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Linky? How much?
All that talk about the Arnie would nearly make me fancy one
Last time I had a watch with a digital display was sometime in the 80s I think My ads on adverts.ie
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Linky? How much?
All that talk about the Arnie would nearly make me fancy one
Last time I had a watch with a digital display was sometime in the 80s I think
https://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/fs-seiko-prospex-snj025p1-arnie-5189029.html#/topics/5189029
Did the deal at 350 delivered.
I now own 2 ana-digis
Citizen Promaster and the Arnie.
I really do need to sell the Seiko chrono I bought off Mick now tho :P0 -
https://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/fs-seiko-prospex-snj025p1-arnie-5189029.html#/topics/5189029
Did the deal at 350 delivered.
I now own 2 ana-digis
Citizen Promaster and the Arnie.
I really do need to sell the Seiko chrono I bought off Mick now tho :P
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https://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/fs-seiko-prospex-snj025p1-arnie-5189029.html#/topics/5189029
Did the deal at 350 delivered.
I now own 2 ana-digis
Citizen Promaster and the Arnie.
I really do need to sell the Seiko chrono I bought off Mick now tho :P
Cool watch,watched a review on it comparing it to the original
Definitely think this time around I would prefer the reissue rather then the original, the dial and hands being bigger are a much better fit giving it that beefy feel :cool:
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Was in Weir's today, went onto the waiting list for a non-date sub. They had no Rolex of interest in the shop, but tried on a blue 36mm (DJ) for size and indeed it was way too small. Also noted on my form that if they get in a YM40 or Z-Blue Milgauss, that I can come in to have a try of it. Not much hope of any of that happening any time soon though
Walked past Dawson's too, but they were still closed.
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Oafley Jones wrote: »What bezel and bracelet did it have? Any other 36m DJ there?
Fluted bezel, jubilee bracelet. I don't like either
I'd say they probably have more of them alright. Plenty of lady Rolex watches too.My ads on adverts.ie
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Sky Helpful Fencer wrote: »20 euro aint the end of the world, some people chargins over 400 for them new....highstreet is around 500.
TBH I'm not too bothered at all, I was very happy with the price.
I maybe got a little excite and didn't look around as well as I should have for it.
Went to Watch Recon and jumped on what looked good.Got mine for similar money through Chrono24 from Netherlands as well, might be same guy.
I must take a look and see if I can find him.
My usual would be get a mate living in the Canaries to get me a deal via there but jewelers there aren't open until phase 3.
God be with the days I'd do a deal in a jewellers here for something(not watch related back then) and then claim back the VAT as I left.
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