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Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    The amount of people snorting and coughing without covering themselves is disgusting. You only notice it when something like this comes up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭ldy4mxonucwsq6


    Would love anyone elses suggestions, a lot of those 'survival' lists get intense.... Like yourself its all stuff we will use eventually anyway.

    Probably not a bad idea to have some power banks at the ready, stock up some water and make sure to have an alternative cooking source such as a camping stove or gas bbq (if you don't have an open fire or stove). Fuel and matches/candles etc.

    Beans, tinned fish, lentils, peanut butter, jerky, nuts/seeds are a all good non perishable protein source if meat isn't available. Tinned fruit and veg again in case there's no fresh available. Home baking and bread making supplies.

    Unlikely to need any of it but just in case.


  • Registered Users Posts: 308 ✭✭harrylittle


    For all those that think the flu is worse than the covid 19 virus ....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWom9MlM0ug


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    fritzelly wrote: »
    That's why Ireland isn't testing - if you don't test you don't have cases - would kill the tourism here and the economy, I seriously believe that.

    Nah don't buy that to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,674 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Would love anyone elses suggestions, a lot of those 'survival' lists get intense.... Like yourself its all stuff we will use eventually anyway.

    Maybe pop on your wish list

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Walking-Dead-Official-Cookbook-Survival/dp/1683830784


  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭Thisonedone


    Ireland has about 2 days left before it spreads here. Will FG take the tough decisions needed to prevent that happening? Will they fook! Too in bed with big business interests.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭starbaby2003


    There is probably a high chance there are cases in Ireland but are unnoticed. My whole family were sick two weeks ago with coughs and high temperatures. I remarked to my husband so unusual to get a high temp with a cold. Whilst obviously I’m not saying we had Coronavirus, my point is people who weren’t very sick would have had no reason to visit a doctor. It only seems to become apparent when it infects vulnerable clusters of people. Lots of people seem asymptomatic without even factoring in the two week incubation period. I would think that if it’s spreading through Europe, there are almost certainly some cases in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭drkpower


    Ireland has about 2 days left before it spreads here. Will FG take the tough decisions needed to prevent that happening? Will they fook! Too in bed with big business interests.

    What are those tough decisions?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    For all those that think the flu is worse than the covid 19 virus ....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWom9MlM0ug

    Of course its not. China didn't enact almost war time measures for nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    Anyway, looking at the countries in full swing, they seem to manage in terms of food supplies. The stock piling thing looks more like an initial reaction that settles once people realized that shops are still being replenished


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    Dave0301 wrote: »
    Hand sanitizer and boxes of tissues were placed in all rooms in our workplace today...

    Subtle :pac:

    So you work in a brothel?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭Nermal


    Heading off to Israel for a week on Saturday. Let’s roll the dice!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    drkpower wrote: »
    What are those tough decisions?

    Close the boarders for a start.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭Thisonedone


    drkpower wrote: »
    What are those tough decisions?

    Banning travel into the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    There is probably a high chance there are cases in Ireland but are unnoticed. My whole family were sick two weeks ago with coughs and high temperatures. I remarked to my husband so unusual to get a high temp with a cold. Whilst obviously I’m not saying we had Coronavirus, my point is people who weren’t very sick would have had no reason to visit a doctor. It only seems to become apparent when it infects vulnerable clusters of people. Lots of people seem asymptomatic without even factoring in the two week incubation period. I would think that if it’s spreading through Europe, there are almost certainly some cases in Ireland.


    Yep, I'm recovering from a bad flue, last time i was that sick was few years ago. Is there a very bad flue around at the moment on top of this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,945 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    old_aussie wrote: »
    Close the boarders for a start.
    That ship has sailed, I'd say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭Musefan


    Actually, come to think of it, here’s the WHO video on hand washing. If we learn nothing more from the next few weeks other than how to wash hands, it will be useful! I have to do hand hygiene training regularly and you would be surprised the amount of areas missed when you don’t wash using this method. Water before soap is a must though! I used to work with people with very compromised immune systems- still in the habit of shouldering through the door and not touching the handle! Maybe this could be put somewhere visible for everyone? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3PmVJQUCm4E


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,674 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Yep, I'm recovering from a bad flue, last time i was that sick was few years ago. Is there a very bad flue around at the moment on top of this?

    Hello Patient Zero


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭starbaby2003


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Yep, I'm recovering from a bad flue, last time i was that sick was few years ago. Is there a very bad flue around at the moment on top of this?

    I think so, everyone seems to have something. The non stop rain isn’t helping!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭drkpower


    old_aussie wrote: »
    Close the boarders for a start.

    How do you do that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭ldy4mxonucwsq6


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    They are only testing people who were in contact with a confirmed case or was traveling from China, that's not much

    I hate to say but they are not testing people here just because they have been to China recently.

    I know of at least two people who went back to work this week after being in China and Singapore and neither was tested or checked for anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Hello Patient Zero


    if i got infected, patient 0 is my friend who passed it to me the focker who invited us at his house and was sneezing and coughing all evening!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    I hate to say but they are not testing people here just because they have been to China recently.

    I know of at least two people who went back to work this week after being in China and Singapore and neither was tested or checked for anything.


    you are right, I forgot about that, they are not EVEN testing the ones required to be tested and quarantined


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,361 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    No 25 is hot. Put it this way how often does it get past 25 in Ireland.

    25 is not hot, objectively speaking. And definitely not if you live somewhere where summer temps are 40+. That's barely even shorts weather tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    On Friday, epidemiologists from the Imperial College London in the UK also released their latest report on the outbreak. They concluded the strict travel restrictions and quarantines implemented in China, which haven’t come without controversy, likely did slow down the outbreak globally. But the situation still looks dire. They estimated that two-thirds of all travel-related cases outside the country have gone unnoticed, “potentially resulting in multiple chains of as yet undetected human-to-human transmission outside mainland China.

    https://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2020/02/things-are-not-looking-good-for-stopping-the-coronavirus/

    In other news the last passenger has left the Diamond Princess cruise ship in Japan, where more than 3,000 people had been quarantined. Staff and health officials remain on board


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,260 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Ireland has about 2 days left before it spreads here. Will FG take the tough decisions needed to prevent that happening? Will they fook! Too in bed with big business interests.

    I am curious, why a two day timeframe/window before its arrival here. Without getting into a political debate how would the arrival of a virus you cannot see be something a political party would be accountable for?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭ldy4mxonucwsq6


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    you are right, I forgot about that, they are not EVEN testing the ones required to be tested and quarantined

    You can be pretty sure it's here already, just hasnt been diagnosed yet.

    Not enough was done to contain it, its spread far and wide now.

    Of course the virus had a good head start in the couple of months where nobody knew anything about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭Steer55


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Anyway, looking at the countries in full swing, they seem to manage in terms of food supplies. The stock piling thing looks more like an initial reaction that settles once people realized that shops are still being replenished


    Yes you are right but I think people are stock piling now rather than having to face huge queues at the shops if this thing hits hard. I bought in perishable foods such as rice porridge flour, tinned stuff not to much just enough rice last a few weeks, and of course the
    paracetamol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336




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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Yep and possibly smoking could be a risk factor too.

    One third of the Chinese population smoke,they account for 40% of the world tabaco usage.
    Smoker's more likely to be in the moderate level more likely to get pneumonia.
    Even then sadly even in China thoes that died had other underlying health issues


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Musefan wrote: »
    Did a big shop for my family & parents- flour, yeast, butter, cheese etc and loads of long life stuff that we can get by on like noodles, pasta, beans, toasting muffins, nuts, chocolate, rice etc. The freezer has about 1.5 weeks of food in it as I’m an avid batch cooker. Got a few funny looks with my trolley this afternoon but sure look, it will all get used.

    The minute it is detected here there will be widespread panic. And it will be eventually here so I think you should be the one giving the funny looks to all the doubters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    fr336 wrote: »
    Ok thank you Imperial, thank you very much!

    Que?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭irishguitarlad


    ZX7R wrote: »
    One third of the Chinese population smoke,they account for 40% of the world tabaco usage.
    Smoker's more likely to be in the moderate level more likely to get pneumonia.
    Even then sadly even in China thoes that died had other underlying health issues

    Would the terrible quality of air in the cities also have contributed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,331 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    You can be pretty sure it's here already, just hasnt been diagnosed yet.

    Spoke to someone working in a hospital here and they were surprised with the amount of not old people on trolleys with the flu last week. Tbh they only copped on to sepis in the last few years so could take a while for the penny to drop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Don't want to sound like stating the obvious here but we should put the apparent surges in cases into context. When you go looking for cases and testing people, hey presto you start getting cases and deaths being treated as coronavirus. When this could have been infecting and killing people all the way since December even in Europe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,331 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Would the terrible quality of air in the cities also have contributed?

    It's one Theroy that's been floating about https://www.windy.com/-NO2-no2?cams,no2,20.056,34.980,3


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Would the terrible quality of air in the cities also have contributed?

    It would have to have been a factor.
    Just to note just because a person smoke's it only increases you're chance of been in the moderate range,does not mean you will develop pneumonia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,155 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    if i got infected, patient 0 is my friend who passed it to me the focker who invited us at his house and was sneezing and coughing all evening!


    Was it his house that had the bad flue?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,652 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    fr336 wrote: »
    Don't want to sound like stating the obvious here but we should put the apparent surges in cases into context. When you go looking for cases and testing people, hey presto you start getting cases and deaths being treated as coronavirus. When this could have been infecting and killing people all the way since December even in Europe.

    Doubtful? Testing for the usual suspects would have come back as negative.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    tillyfilly wrote: »
    The world is approaching a tipping point with this virus

    Time to get Ben Shepherd in


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    fr336 wrote: »
    Don't want to sound like stating the obvious here but we should put the apparent surges in cases into context. When you go looking for cases and testing people, hey presto you start getting cases and deaths being treated as coronavirus. When this could have been infecting and killing people all the way since December even in Europe.

    It started in Wuhan. The cold/flu everyone had at Xmas wasn't Covid19.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,657 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    fr336 wrote: »
    Time to get Ben Shepherd in

    Think I'd prefer the virus.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    fr336 wrote: »
    Don't want to sound like stating the obvious here but we should put the apparent surges in cases into context. When you go looking for cases and testing people, hey presto you start getting cases and deaths being treated as coronavirus. When this could have been infecting and killing people all the way since December even in Europe.

    Very true , even the original outbreak only started to get attention when people started to die.
    Before that the increase in cases of pneumonia were considered a bad flu outbreak


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Nah don't buy that to be honest.

    Not the person you were replying to but why don't you believe it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    Earlier on Italian State TV, the WHO rep stated that European Countries differ in how they select people for testing :
    -in France the swab tests are carried out only on people with symptoms
    -while in Italy - until now - the swab tests were carried out widely on people in the (now quarantined) areas, regardless of them having symptoms or not.

    As tomorrow a WHO delegation is doing a site inspection in Italy, what I expect to happen is:
    - swab tests done only on people with symptoms going forward
    - statistics split in: infected with symptoms and infected without symptoms

    Video:
    https://twitter.com/agorarai/status/1232049332335075328


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,959 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    The latest info on the HSE website is still only talking about China. No mention of South Korea, Italy or Iran.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,362 ✭✭✭mojesius


    We did our canned and dried food /toilet roll/ freezer stock up shop today. Better safe than sorry! I was at the petrol station after work, everyone was using the supplied disposable gloves to fill their tanks.

    Everyone seemed to be sniffly and coughing on the train this morning, but I think I'm more aware of it recently.

    Due to travel to Paris for six Nations with husband, I've a feeling it won't happen though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    The latest info on the HSE website is still only talking about China. No mention of South Korea, Italy or Iran.

    I had to double check it was Monday. What are they at?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,657 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    It started in Wuhan. The cold/flu everyone had at Xmas wasn't Covid19.

    I think its overwhelmingly unlikely that the flu anyone had here recently is related to covid but it's easy enough to create a narrative that shows it to be possible, albeit extremely improbable:

    It started in Wuhan in November. A lot of people around Xmas and after were talking about the flu they had being the worst flu theyve ever had and there were reports mentioning it not being covered by the vaccine - which would make sense if it's a different virus.


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