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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,108 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dizzyblonde


    B&Q do a range called Blooma, with covers and accessories that will do for Weber but at a fraction of the price. They probably won't have them at this time of year but you might find them online.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,477 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    I have my basic weber kettle (no fancy in built thermometers etc) for about 7-8 years and has been outside for all that time with no cover on it and there is not one bit rust on it yet inc the grate etc. I wouldn't worry too much about it....unless you have one of those fancy ones.

    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,961 ✭✭✭BailMeOut


    BailMeOut wrote: »

    FYI - ordered 2 x 15kb sacks of this stuff and it is really good. Charcoal is mostly round sticks 2-3 cm in diameter and burns beautifully.


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭Schrodingercat


    I use the amazon basics cover and its really good (on a weber master touch). Its quite heavy duty and has clips that go on to the legs so the wind doesn't take it as well as a string to tighten it.



    https://www.amazon.co.uk/AmazonBasics-55-613-013201-PL-Kettle-Grill-Cover/dp/B012VMKHCA/


    I had a weber one and it got ripped easily.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,454 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    neris wrote: »
    Smoked a beef brisket late yesterday evening. briquettes and Webber mesquite chips. Was a long thin cut which was a bit disappointing, dried out slightly around the edges and burnt in part nearest the heat but middle of it was nice for breakfast this morning. Left it to brine for 2 days in coke & onions then put a rub of pepper, salt, mustard, garlic & parika on it. Started it about 6:30 and left it for 3 hours then wrapped it in foil. Still having trouble getting the heat up in the main chamber so I left it in the smoker for the night as wasnt a huge amount of time left in the coals.

    Yeah difficult to get thick American style cuts here at times. Thin cuts dont work really. They end up like beef jerky. Which is what my first attempt was.

    2nd attempt turned out well. Dont be afraid to go bananas with the smoke either. Needs a good bit of smoke ring build up. Same for a fat cap. You can foil it and chuck it in the oven for the last 4-5 hours if you want. Id also recommend adding sugar to the rub. Really caramelises and adds to the bark.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,428 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Wow, I kept the sugar out of rubs for beef, didn't really think it needed it... As opposed to pork where I feel guilty about the sugar...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users Posts: 538 ✭✭✭Shakey_jake


    FIRE IN THE HOLE!

    Meant to put these up a while back



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  • Registered Users Posts: 678 ✭✭✭davegilly


    FIRE IN THE HOLE!

    Meant to put these up a while back

    Nice! Is that a ProQ smoker you are using? Thinking of getting the frontier - is it a good investment do you think? I have a Weber kettle and have smoked a few bits on it with the snake method so trying to justify the cost of the ProQ if I'm only doing occasional smokes. Any advice?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,454 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    davegilly wrote: »
    Nice! Is that a ProQ smoker you are using? Thinking of getting the frontier - is it a good investment do you think? I have a Weber kettle and have smoked a few bits on it with the snake method so trying to justify the cost of the ProQ if I'm only doing occasional smokes. Any advice?

    Dunno about brands, a lot of them are the same, but I can't recommend a decent smoker highly enough. Christmas will never be the same! You will use it a lot.

    Also great if you host a lot as it frees up the oven.

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    Recipes here.

    Ham - https://www.thedailymeal.com/recipes/smoked-ham-sweet-holiday-glaze-recipe
    Turkey - https://www.finecooking.com/recipe/maple-brined-wood-smoked-grilled-turkey

    I have a Weber Smokey Mountain and I love it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 678 ✭✭✭davegilly


    The Nal wrote: »
    Dunno about brands, a lot of them are the same, but I can't recommend a decent smoker highly enough. Christmas will never be the same! You will use it a lot.

    Also great if you host a lot as it frees up the oven.

    I have a Weber Smokey Mountain and I love it.

    I have a Broil King Monarch gas BBQ thats never used. I have a Weber Kettle 57mm also and use it a few times a week. This is last years turkey on it - funnily enough I used pretty much the same brine recipe in the link you posted :) I'm just concious of bringing another BBQ type oven into the yard and trying to explain to the missus why I now have three of them!!

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    Edit: Ah jaysus - I see A Room Outside have a 10% sale today. I think I will just bite the bullet (see what I did there!!) and get the frontier today!! Anyone have any ready made excuses for when herself spots it?

    Roll on Xmas again!!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭martinr5232


    davegilly wrote:
    Edit: Ah jaysus - I see A Room Outside have a 10% sale today. I think I will just bite the bullet (see what I did there!!) and get the frontier today!! Anyone have any ready made excuses for when herself spots it?

    Just tell her "sure jesus love thats there a long time. Do you think these ribs have enough sauce on them ?? "

    If that doesnt work start divorce procedings :-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 678 ✭✭✭davegilly


    Just tell her "sure jesus love thats there a long time. Do you think these ribs have enough sauce on them ?? "

    If that doesnt work start divorce procedings :-)

    LOL. Sounds like a plan :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,428 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    davegilly wrote: »
    LOL. Sounds like a plan :)

    What if she gets half of your bbq collection.. Can you risk it..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,221 ✭✭✭cullenswood


    What’s the best time to get a good deal on a BBQ? Have my eye on the Weber Spirit II E-310. Currently at around €590


  • Registered Users Posts: 538 ✭✭✭Shakey_jake


    davegilly wrote: »
    Nice! Is that a ProQ smoker you are using? Thinking of getting the frontier - is it a good investment do you think? I have a Weber kettle and have smoked a few bits on it with the snake method so trying to justify the cost of the ProQ if I'm only doing occasional smokes. Any advice?

    Great investment! The results speak for themselves

    Cheaper than a weber smokey mountain and more versatile

    Holds 250 all day long providing you have a fairly good idea of how the vents react

    This is coming from a guy who cut his teeth on a weber 47cm kettle

    Its a world of difference

    Cannot recommend it enough


  • Registered Users Posts: 678 ✭✭✭davegilly


    What’s the best time to get a good deal on a BBQ? Have my eye on the Weber Spirit II E-310. Currently at around €590
    Whenever you see a sale of any description! Weber's aren't usually discounted by much I'm afraid.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,454 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Great BBQ sales on in Homebase at the moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,036 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Ordered a few beef ribs beef cheeks and pork from the butcher for last Friday. The beef arrived but all out of pork cheeks which was very disappointing as I really like these on a smoke. Half the beef cheeks and ribs went into a 7 hour stew on friday night and the rest went to the smoker sunday afternoon. Ive never done beef cheeks on the bbq/smoker and my last 2 attempts at ribs were an undercooked disaster.

    Brined the cheeks in cola from friday to sunday, left the ribs till sunday. I let the cheeks drain off for an hour Sunday before preping with mustard slather and a home made rub of salt pepper, smoked paprika, chilli and mustard powder. Did the ribs in salt, pepper, onion salt & smoked parprika.

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    I used an offset smoker before when trying the ribs and could never get enough heat into the cooking area so went with the kettle bbq for this one expecting a 7-9 hour cook. Used briqutte coals that Id picked up in tesco over the summer expecting to have to add coals later in the cook but surprisingly the coals lasted the whole cook which was 8 hours and were still going when I finished. Used hickory wood chips for the smoke.

    Left the meat to cook away for about 3.5 hours before I checked it. Was a good temperature inside but it was getting to hot. I dont have a thermometer in the kettle lid and made the mistake of putting my oven thermometer over the coals

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    After 5 hours cooking I took the cheeks off and put them in a tray with coffee and let them cook uncovered for an hour on the grill. I was spritzing the ribs every 15-20 minutes with a vinegar/water mix. After the hour I covered the tray and left it for another 90 minutes.

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    Started cooking at 2pm and took the ribs off about 9-930 and then the cheeks at 10. I thought the ribs might take longer but they were done just right this time. Soft tender and melt in the mouth fat. The rub on the cheeks was a bit overpowering and too spicy and killed the enjoyment of eating them and they probably could have come off 30 minutes earlier aswell.

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    Was very happy to finally get ribs done that didnt have to be finished off in the oven however the cheeks were a little disappointing especially with the rub been so overpowering. Not sure either if Id put them in a liquid and cover next time. There was no added flavour or tenderness. While the meat was cooking I did bite the bullet and ordered a thermometer & aswell for the lid from amazon so I,ll have a bit more control over the heat next time. Also ordered a vent cover for the underneath as the original one broke off a while back and was using tin foil to stuff the holes and wasnt helping


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,036 ✭✭✭✭neris


    while i was ordering the thermometer for bbq I also ordered a new cooking grate/grill thing. Ordered it for delivery to my usual parcel motel pick up point. Text yesterday morning to say an over sized package had arrived and was being held for collection at the parcel motel offices. For such a piece of metal measuring 57cm diameter could amazon not have found a bigger box and used more paper inside to stop it rattling about?? Im no eco warrior but the amount and size of some packaging that comes from online retailers is unreal. In smaller packaging that would easily have fitted into a parcel motel unit

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭AlanG


    Hi, I just got a callow smoker to dip my toes into slow smoking food. Will be setting it up over the Christmas break. Does anyone know of any B & M shops around Dublin that have Weber briquettes in stock at the moment. Also any advice on what smoking wood to use and where I might get some at this time of year - I will probably start with a pork shoulder and / or beef ribs.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 678 ✭✭✭davegilly


    AlanG wrote: »
    Hi, I just got a callow smoker to dip my toes into slow smoking food. Will be setting it up over the Christmas break. Does anyone know of any B & M shops around Dublin that have Weber briquettes in stock at the moment. Also any advice on what smoking wood to use and where I might get some at this time of year - I will probably start with a pork shoulder and / or beef ribs.

    I just bought some today at the Orchard in Celbridge. They aren't on display though, you have to ask the staff to get them for you. The only stuff they have on the floor are 8Kg bags of lump.

    Edit: They have wood chunks too - I got Mesquite and Hickory there. Pretty sure they have Apple chunks too as well as loads of various wood chips.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    neris wrote: »
    For such a piece of metal measuring 57cm diameter could amazon not have found a bigger box and used more paper inside to stop it rattling about?? Im no eco warrior but the amount and size of some packaging that comes from online retailers is unreal. In smaller packaging that would easily have fitted into a parcel motel unit

    Yeah Amazon can be annoying like that, Ive had to pick up from Parcel Motel HQ in the past because Amazon used a massive box for no apparent reason. Even worse though is when you order a bunch of items into a single delivery and then it doesnt happen- I had to swallow three sets of Parcel Motel charges a while back because they didnt group an order as requested. Very annoying :mad:

    Great BBQ pics neris, I hope you and all the other winter BBQers on here will keep us topped up with food porn in these colder months :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,454 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    AlanG wrote: »
    Hi, I just got a callow smoker to dip my toes into slow smoking food. Will be setting it up over the Christmas break. Does anyone know of any B & M shops around Dublin that have Weber briquettes in stock at the moment. Also any advice on what smoking wood to use and where I might get some at this time of year - I will probably start with a pork shoulder and / or beef ribs.

    Just make sure you use the right wood for the right meat. Its not an exact science but there are certain dos and donts

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  • Registered Users Posts: 824 ✭✭✭Boardnashea


    If I am using my own wood chips should they be with or without bark?
    Fresh wood or well seasoned and dampened when using.

    I used some oak during the summer for smoking some pike and rainbow trout but looking at the list above I might stick to apple in future. The chips I used were from a 2 - 3" branch that had fallen recently so not seasoned and bark left on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,454 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    If I am using my own wood chips should they be with or without bark?
    Fresh wood or well seasoned and dampened when using.

    I used some oak during the summer for smoking some pike and rainbow trout but looking at the list above I might stick to apple in future. The chips I used were from a 2 - 3" branch that had fallen recently so not seasoned and bark left on.

    Just be careful with hickory and mesquite and don't do what I did when I started smoking and put too much on an everything just tastes the same. Goes for all wood really. Its fun and tempting to chuck a load on and watch the smoke billow out in great clouds but sometimes less is more.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 20,775 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    If I am using my own wood chips should they be with or without bark?
    Fresh wood or well seasoned and dampened when using.

    I used some oak during the summer for smoking some pike and rainbow trout but looking at the list above I might stick to apple in future. The chips I used were from a 2 - 3" branch that had fallen recently so not seasoned and bark left on.

    Well seasoned wood is best. Less chance of the taste of bonfire. I've used well seasoned apple with the bark on and couldn't taste any difference.

    No need to soak in water before use.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭surball


    Brian? wrote: »
    Well seasoned wood is best. Less chance of the taste of bonfire. I've used well seasoned apple with the bark on and couldn't taste any difference.

    No need to soak in water before use.

    I have been using seasoned apple twigs for the last while and finding not much difference in the smokiness compared to chips.


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭FCB1899


    AlanG wrote: »
    Hi, I just got a callow smoker to dip my toes into slow smoking food. Will be setting it up over the Christmas break. Does anyone know of any B & M shops around Dublin that have Weber briquettes in stock at the moment. Also any advice on what smoking wood to use and where I might get some at this time of year - I will probably start with a pork shoulder and / or beef ribs.


    Just got 2 x 8kg bags directly from weber.com/IE with free postage for 14.99 per bag. Shipped from Germany and received in 4 days. Planning on apple wood smoked turkey for Christmas dinner, fingers crossed for the weather!


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,036 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Smoked some pork cheeks on Friday with mesquite chips. going to serve as cold cut beer snacks tonight to the in laws. The chief food taster approves of them.

    Used my new grilling grate and lid thermometers for the 1st time both came in very handy as temp was dying down and needed to add more coals and the little hinged side on the gate came into use

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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,454 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    neris wrote: »
    Smoked some pork cheeks on Friday with mesquite chips. going to serve as cold cut beer snacks tonight to the in laws. The chief food taster approves of them.

    I hope your lovely dog got some!


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