AEW - All Elite Wrestling (Spoilers for Latest Show)

Headshot · 13-05-2021 5:09pm

Isn't strange that NWA title matches are still happening on AEW even though NWA is back on tv?

Don't get me wrong, I'm delighted but it's a strange one no?

ThePott · 13-05-2021 6:23pm

Lot of great stuff here.
Really dug the IWGP US title match. Shame the OC/Pac match had to call an audible but they called it on the fly very well. He really seemed to hop his head on the Liger Bomb, hope he's in the clear for DON. Miro vs. Darby was what it needed to be, got serious Zangief energy from Miro.
Agree though that he needs to ditch the moniker and theme. SCU vs. Young Bucks was excellent as well.

There were some things I'm a bit mixed on, mostly minor.
Don't like Moxley's Wild Thing entrance. Don't think it suits him. I know it's an Onita nod but I don't think it works.
The Pinnacle/IC feud seems a bit done and the whole MJF segment could have done with a trim tbh, he's great but a lot of the time it feels like a bit more brevity would work a lot better. Had the opposite problem with other parts.

They really rushed the end of SCU, you couldn't give them a moment? Same with Miro with the TNT title, feels like they could have hung on that visual a bit longer and got rid of the Dark Order run-in or whatever that was at the end.
The less said about Cody's promo the better, the absolute drizzles and I'm not necessarily a Cody hater but serious cringe.

Cherry_Cola · 13-05-2021 8:40pm

It's odd how Cody comes across on TV as he's super funny and likeable in real life and from what you see of him on Sammy's Vlog. Will be up at the crack of dawn Monday to try secure tickets for all the shows at the end of the month. Should be a great time!

14-05-2021 12:00am

Is it just me that isn't loving the double or nothing card so far? Don't get me wrong I'm enjoying Dynamite lately but the card isn't grabbing me atm.

Enjoyed Dynamite last night. Hated the pinnacle inner circle segment though and Cody's "big announcement". Just crap.

RollieFingers · 14-05-2021 7:18am

I loved everything about the US championship match, the presentation from the start gave it a big match feel. I marked out seeing Ren Narita on Dynamite, was half expecting Shooter Umino to be back with Mox as well. Loved Eddie rocking the DMX shirt too.

Another very good episode from AEW, the main was so good, easily Miro's best performance for the company. The Cody announcement was cringeworthy though.

ThePott · 14-05-2021 7:49am

Deleted User wrote: »

Is it just me that isn't loving the double or nothing card so far?

I do think it's a lesser card. Hadn't really thought about it until now though.
I can't fault them too much as they've had some massive matches lately that they could easily have saved for DoN but put it out on free tv which is admirable.

I do wonder what the Stadium Stampede will be with fans in attendance.

Omackeral · 14-05-2021 7:51am

Cody harping on about how having a mixed race child is a babyface move (huh?!) is only made funnier by the fact Anthony Ogogo is himself a mixed race man.

beakerjoe · 14-05-2021 7:58am

I loved the Cody promo. It was pure pandering waffle but thought it was very entertaining.

Got Ogogo over as a threat too.

Agent Coulson · 14-05-2021 4:44pm

These are great a nice mix of Kayfabe & Real interview.

Agent Coulson · 14-05-2021 5:30pm

Beat the sh1t out of each and then have a beer.

https://twitter.com/nagata769/status/1393105165079629825?s=20

Headshot · 14-05-2021 8:52pm

God damn I love Darby

https://twitter.com/i/status/1392662097775972353

Here's what TK said about Miro after the match

"Whether people know it or not, we're re-contextualizing Miro," Khan said. "I don't know what Miro was supposed to be before he came to AEW. I don't understand what he represented. And I think most of the great characters in wrestling have some element of their personality, where they bring themselves into it. And the Miro you're seeing is the person I know."

I'm just kind of rebuilding him, to be honest with you. I thought he got beat up so badly [in WWE]," he continued. "I saw some jackass on Twitter was like, 'This guy drove a tank at WrestleMania and now he's doing this,' and I'm like, 'Yeah, and then he got kicked in the nuts and they treated him like s— for years. He drove a tank out five years ago. That's not the guy I signed. The guy I signed had been abused for years. And he's being rebuilt."

ThePott · 14-05-2021 9:39pm

I'm sure people will disagree but there's a lot of arrogance in that statement. Miro has only been salvaged in the last few months. They put him in a lame wedding story for months on end and he had a weird twitch gamer persona. They're rebuilding him, yes but some of that rebuilding was because of the way they fumbled him in the beginning IMO, WWE did him wrong absolutely but AEW did him no favours initially.

Agent Coulson · 14-05-2021 11:10pm

Dave reporting that Andrade has been in talks with AEW.

beakerjoe · 14-05-2021 11:26pm

ThePott wrote: »

I'm sure people will disagree but there's a lot of arrogance in that statement. Miro has only been salvaged in the last few months. They put him in a lame wedding story for months on end and he had a weird twitch gamer persona. They're rebuilding him, yes but some of that rebuilding was because of the way they fumbled him in the beginning IMO, WWE did him wrong absolutely but AEW did him no favours initially.

Weeks... hes only been salavged in the last 4 to 5 weeks.

14-05-2021 11:57pm

Wade Keller of PWTorch noted on a recent podcast that certain members of ‘The Elite’ are no longer talking to one another.

Keller notes, “There’s gonna be a book written someday by some of these EVPs or someone else closely observing and we’re gonna learn about a lot of dysfunction." He goes on to say that the very short honeymoon period in AEW is over. When Keller notes "there are certain key people who aren’t even talking to each other anymore,” one has to wonder what this means for their on-air product and company operations if AEW President Tony Khan can't get things back on track.

Keller went on to say that there's really no way AEW is going to keep all of this quiet. It's certainly not ideal if issues between The Young Bucks and Cody Rhodes and Kenny Omega become public, but that's how upset people are. While we don't know specifically what's causing the rift, “I think we’re gonna find that out,” Keller said.

Because of all of this friction, Jason Powell of ProWrestling.net reports a major free agent has already looked at AEW and is hesitant about going there. Not interested in joining a promotion that has reported infighting, this "difference maker" could elect not to sign.

Interesting (if true). You'd have to think its Cody (not on speaking terms) with the bucks and/or Kenny. Can't see it being Kenny and the bucks not talking to each other.

ThePott · 14-05-2021 11:58pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

Weeks... hes only been salavged in the last 4 to 5 weeks.

True, I wanted to say this but feared being jumped on for pointing out it was in fact weeks

The EVPs rumours have been doing the rounds for a long time, long enough that it's hard to tell whether they hold water. Definitely seems like the divide would be between Cody and the Elite though. More and more his segments and storylines seem totally disconnected from the rest of the show.

The White Wolf · 15-05-2021 8:39am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Interesting (if true). You'd have to think its Cody (not on speaking terms) with the bucks and/or Kenny. Can't see it being Kenny and the bucks not talking to each other.

How reliable is Wade? Cody strikes me as a businessman to his core, I'd be surprised if he would let things slip between himself and the Bucks/Omega.

riffmongous · 15-05-2021 8:41am

I almost forgot he is even part of the Elite till I saw him on an old BTE recently

Omackeral · 15-05-2021 11:52am

Young Bucks/Good Brothers just give me go away heat at this stage. Gallows and Anderson bring f*ck all to the table. Bucks are just muppets, I feel like I could batter them myself. Kenny is the only one I like in that crew, well Don as well, he’s class.

15-05-2021 2:15pm

Was it ever revealed, when Khan was setting up the company, was it his plan to offer the elite EVP roles or was it something they asked for as a condition to sign?

brianregan09 · 15-05-2021 4:09pm

I wonder is it all a work though , because whenever they finally decide to do it Omega vs Cody will be a massive match

The White Wolf · 15-05-2021 6:12pm

brianregan09 wrote: »

I wonder is it all a work though , because whenever they finally decide to do it Omega vs Cody will be a massive match

I assume you mean Omega vs Hangman.

beakerjoe · 15-05-2021 6:26pm

The White Wolf wrote: »

I assume you mean Omega vs Hangman.

Hangman has to be the man to take Omega down. I just hope they dont cool him off too much.

Agent Coulson · 15-05-2021 6:44pm

Wait for the haters reactions when Dave comes out with they are good mates chatting away and there is nothing in the story.

brianregan09 · 15-05-2021 6:45pm

Oh ya totally agree it's Hangman that has to do it he's long term booking has been fantastic

buuuuut Omega vs Cody would be a massive draw also if it were to happen

The White Wolf · 15-05-2021 7:28pm

brianregan09 wrote: »

Oh ya totally agree it's Hangman that has to do it he's long term booking has been fantastic

buuuuut Omega vs Cody would be a massive draw also if it were to happen

I get you. There's a story that started in Japan that hasn't been completed between them. It has mad potential.

Cherry_Cola · 15-05-2021 7:36pm

Flights and hotel sorted for Jacksonville again in two weeks. Can't wait!

I forgot to post some pics from the Blood and Guts show. Taken while gargled so apologies for quality 😂

Lithium93_ · 15-05-2021 7:43pm

^^^^ Honestly, those are absolutely class.

Lord TSC · 15-05-2021 9:09pm

Tony in the first picture :pac:

Monokne · 15-05-2021 10:24pm

ThePott wrote: »

True, I wanted to say this but feared being jumped on for pointing out it was in fact weeks

The EVPs rumours have been doing the rounds for a long time, long enough that it's hard to tell whether they hold water. Definitely seems like the divide would be between Cody and the Elite though. More and more his segments and storylines seem totally disconnected from the rest of the show.

Any time there's been a wrestling promotion where there's a committee of people at the top there end up being big fallings out.

I doubt they are wishing harm upon each other but of course there are divisions and tension between them. You even just see the style of wrestling Cody wants to present where it's logical and grounded and detail focused, much more old school versus the bucks where it's cirque de soleil in ring, very ironic and sarcastic, self aware humour on the mic and in their spots. These competing ideals trying to run a business & write creative are going to cause nerves to fray over time.

Not even sure it's a bad thing. As long as Khan has final say, a little tension among the troops is fine, keeps everyone sharp.

Agent Coulson · 16-05-2021 9:45am

Dave reporting that nobody isn’t talking to each other and in wrestling it is impossible to get every one to agree on everything.

Cody has a more business relationship with Omega and Bucks who are a legit close friends.

I think It is pretty obvious how much of a business man Cody is compared to the other three.

Now for the Dave haters to say Dave is taking out of his arse as he is a shill for AEW.

ThePott · 16-05-2021 10:23am

Yeah that makes sense, Cody always seemed to be the business side of things and the Kenny and the Bucks have been friends for ages. Again don't think it's a major thing but it does seem strange and make the show disconnected at times. I'm sure that won't last forever though.

Also Impact Under Siege Spoilers.
At their next event, Against All Odds on June 12th it will be

Kenny Omega vs. Moose for the Impact World Championship

. Expected this one for Slammiversary, not sure what it means for the belt collector long-term. Could see some sheanigans to draw it out till then. Always expected

Moose to be the one to bring the title back to Impact

Omackeral · 16-05-2021 11:01am

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Dave reporting that Andrade has been in talks with AEW.

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Wait for the haters reactions when Dave comes out with they are good mates chatting away and there is nothing in the story.

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Dave reporting that nobody isn’t talking to each other and in wrestling it is impossible to get every one to agree on everything.

Now for the Dave haters to say Dave is taking out of his arse as he is a shill for AEW.

Just call him Big Daddy Meltz and be done with it.

Agent Coulson · 16-05-2021 11:04am

Didn't take long for them to arrive in here.

beakerjoe · 16-05-2021 11:12am

Its not like Dave wont cover for those involved. Hard to assume his report on this is credible.

Is Dave reporting the truth? Perhaps.

Is it likely hes covering up the story on behalf of his sources? Yes.

Omackeral · 16-05-2021 11:25am

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Didn't take long for them to arrive in here.

Couldn’t be further from the truth. I’m not a Meltzer hater in the slightest. Don’t read any of his stuff. I nothing him. Just find it somewhat funny you are going on about it as if it’s a polarising war between factions.

As for arriving in here, well I’ve been here on this thread a good while and generally just talk about the show as it’s presented on television.

Agent Coulson · 16-05-2021 11:26am

Just like a cheap pop at the expensive of other posters.

Grand.

Omackeral · 16-05-2021 11:44am

Don’t work yourself into a shoot, brother.

nazmoalex · 16-05-2021 11:47am

What was the story with Cody's promo? Either there's a heel turn coming soon enough down the road or he's losing it altogether. I have seen his post on Twitter claiming some people have said it was the greatest promo of the modern era, or something along those lines.

I am a bit disappointed with Cody overall, I think he's struggled to build anything substantial at all since Jericho. The match with Brodie Lee was decent, but even the build for that wasn't great IMO.

And out of all the groups or factions, the Nightmare Family has been the lamest.

Been enjoying the shows overall. There's so many matches and avenues they can go down, it helps keep things fresh.

CastorTroy · 16-05-2021 11:58am

nazmoalex wrote: »

What was the story with Cody's promo? Either there's a heel turn coming soon enough down the road or he's losing it altogether. I have seen his post on Twitter claiming some people have said it was the greatest promo of the modern era, or something along those lines.

USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!
That's pretty much it. Only a heel promo to non Americans.

As for Cody, Kenny and the Bucks, maybe the others should do their job as well as Cody. Like isn't Kenny supposed to be involved with the women's side of it? If it wasn't for Britt getting herself over there'd be very little of interest there. And when one of the other big names in the division is from outside, then they need to look at what they're doing.

nazmoalex · 16-05-2021 12:10pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!
That's pretty much it. Only a heel promo to non Americans.

Nah, like I have seen enough of those USA promos over the years, this was something else. It was drivel, no matter what nationality you are.
I like Cody, I just think he's underperforming.

The White Wolf · 16-05-2021 12:15pm

I think the Cody promo showed why scripts and a general lay out can be good. He seemed to lose his train of thought more than once and ended up rambling.

beakerjoe · 16-05-2021 12:59pm

I thought Codys promo was pure pandering bull and I loved it. Pure bollox. Entertaining bollox

Agent Coulson · 16-05-2021 1:02pm

Not speaking but retweeting the modern world we live in :pac:

How long before they have Tees on sale.

https://twitter.com/youngbucks/status/1393630960353091585?s=20

J. Marston · 16-05-2021 2:07pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Now for the Dave haters to say Dave is taking out of his arse as he is a shill for AEW.

You're trying to get a rise out of posters who don't like/believe your favourite journalist...

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Didn't take long for them to arrive in here.

...and then going "Oh look" when someone responds to your baiting. Grow up.

The White Wolf · 16-05-2021 2:12pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

I thought Codys promo was pure pandering bull and I loved it. Pure bollox. Entertaining bollox

I couldn't finish it and usually I like a soppy Cody promo. Just ill advised but in the grand scheme of things it will be forgotten.

J. Marston · 16-05-2021 3:17pm

nazmoalex wrote: »

I have seen his post on Twitter claiming some people have said it was the greatest promo of the modern era, or something along those lines.

That was a great Twitter thread. He ended up getting roasted by randoms...

The promo was scuttery shíte but it will always play well over there. Yanks adore that crap. The international crowd just have to sit through that stuff.

It's not just wrestling either, same last night at UFC. USA guy, Chandler, vs a Brazilian, Oliveira in the main event in yeehaw Texas and big "USA! USA! USA!" chants in the first round. There was zero nationalistic stuff in the build-up as far as I'm aware but they took it upon themselves to do it.

UFC

Chandler getting knocked out in the 2nd round quickly softened their cough though.

Lithium93_ · 16-05-2021 4:38pm

Where exactly did the rumour/story of the EVP's not being on speaking terms even originate from?

Agent Coulson · 16-05-2021 5:20pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Where exactly did the rumour/story of the EVP's not being on speaking terms even originate from?

Wade Keller

Agent Coulson · 16-05-2021 8:41pm

Mox just turned up and took out Nick Gage at an event in Las Vegas and they took it out onto the strip.

https://twitter.com/RonFunches/status/1393813967189934084?s=20

https://twitter.com/bdjsb7/status/1393821994651586560?s=20

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