Selling, Swapping or Wanted Watches & Timepieces *Please read rules in 1st post**

No I have never owned an explorer 2 but that doesn’t mean that I can’t say that it is one of the lesser desirable watches from the range. And being happy with Watch after purchase is not really relevant. You could be happier if you had it for a grand less….

On the omega 30% off from retail seems to be the right ballpark however yours is on rubber only (I think) so tougher sell. 

It is all enthusiasts here and we are price sensitive in general and very aware of forces at the moment are down and have been for some time. You are taking the price criticism personally. 

Good look with the sales.

you are taking this all too personally. You started off with the explorer 2 black dial at well over 11k if you recall, those days are over. It's only a recent phenomenon that exp 2 traded over retail anyway and those days are over now. If you want to try and get retail or above that's your perogative but don't be surprised if they don't shift.

And if it makes my opinion any more or less valid to you I've owned most of the current rolex sports line up at one stage or another over the past decade so have bought and sold them all at different times over that period.

I agree with you that the exp 2 is a very nice watch, in my opinion the black is actually nicer than the white albeit white is generally seen as more desirable.

You'll get lots of good advice on the forum here but people are well Informed on buying and selling so if youve just joined for that you'll get direct feedback.

I've not owned a Rolex as of yet, let alone an Explorer II but the black dial was for a long while the only Rolex I really had any interest in. It is one of the models that COVID watch mania had an outsize effect on IMHO.

Its a steel sports Rolex that prior to 2020ish traded under retail, the madness kicked in and it, like every other Rolex & most other Luxury brands were lifted on the rising tide.

Now all that said, Watch_Fan owns 1, it's his prerogative to set whatever asking he likes. The advice offered by some that it's optimistic? I agree, but I can also see why Watch_Fan feels a little piled upon.

The beautiful thing about asking prices though? Is that however hopeful or optimistic 1 is? The market and offers received will quickly disabuse someone if their pricing is off.

On a different but related subject. Some nice pieces popping up here recently. Similarly on many of the other watch fora, the selling sections are filling up with beautiful watches, that are either sitting far longer than previously, or getting fairly quick price drops. That's from FB groups, to TZ and Omegaforums.

yeah for sure things are taking longer to sell. Stuff thats priced keenly still seems to shift though. I think its a good time to be a buyer if you have funds as there's definite savings over prices 12 months ago.

The lads here know a lot about watches but ultimately they are just some lads you'll never meet in person on some internet board. I'd price accordingly to what I feel is appropriate after doing my own research (erm google search whatever). You always have to have a bit of fat on adverts anyway 'cos nothing ever will go for asking there. If someone has a problem with that so be it (no disrespect to the someone btw). If they're right you gonna know soon enough when there is no interest. Unless you're in a hurry to sell who cares?

Have the prior version 'Polar' Explorer II myself and it's a cracking watch. Def'ny wouldnt sell that one, you'll regret it later.

not everyone has access to tz forums don’t forget

There's a couple of Dornblüth and a Sinn EZM2 an Omega PO, a Montblanc monopusher Chrono and a few other pieces over on the sales corner there that are really testing my resolve at the mo🫤

I've made a promise to myself that I'm not buying until 1. I sort out an Omega piepan for the younglad's 21st, and 2. I need to slim down the current crop and go back to 1 out, 1 in.

€4800 makes mine look cheap at €3600, just sayin 😂

it's 6.5 percent commission, not nothing!

I’m sure you would 😂

2020 model, full set. Excellent condition. €3600 is what I was hoping to get.

I haven’t posted it outside of here, hoping for a hassle free sale to a member.

that Mont Blanc is stunning.

Am over in the UK soon and was tempted to bring it back

https://www.adverts.ie/sports/breitling-chronomat-evolution/34115666

Actually that's a 007 special edition.. mines 232.30.42.21.01.001 probably about 3500 to 3800 realistically for boxed with cards set

Faith Jewellers in the North. Out of stock at moment but it has been before and come back so set up email alert. They do discounts off every few weeks and their HAVE10 code will give 10% off the sale price, so worked out at €479 landed for me. HAVE20 will give 20% on full price so not too much more.

Timeshop24 is the next best price I found it for. They often have 5-10% off codes but none active at the moment. It is an older model and getting harder find stock.

I really like both the Turtle and Samurai. Turtle I have still seen in stock in some stores in Ireland.

Wilsons auctions have a number of rolex aand Breitling  for action on the website at the minute under government auctons if anyone was interested:-

https://www.wilsonsauctions.com/timed-auction/listings?culture=en-GB&salecode=OM3275&page=3&pagesize=20&sortby=reference_asc

as far as i know Wilsons auctions are legit. Whether the watch is or not I dont know but I googled numbers falling off rolex face and it does happen.

I’m on a list for Exp II black as I like the watch and its GMT complication. However, I would never pay more than retail for it and that would have to be from AD. Grey new or used second hand would have to be at a ‘good’ price. Now, what is a good price one would ask? Since these watches are one of the least popular among the Rolex collection the wait lists are going to become shorter and shorter and eventually these watches will be sitting at AD ready to be picked up. This is already happening in various touristic locations across the world. Soon enough same will come to Ireland. I’ve been collecting watches for more than 10 years and am in no rush to buy a next one. I would however consider a second hand Exp II if the price was attractive enough to offset the risk of purchasing from a private and unknown individual as well as make me turn away from waiting for a watch from the AD that more likely than not will become available to me sooner rather than later at this stage. The value of those two things alone is probably in a range of 1.8-2.5k for this particular type of watch.

This of course is my point of view and you may disagree. However, I would think that there are many more collectors like me who would be interested in purchasing the watch but have similar reservations wrt the price. Just my 3 cents.

I'm not sure if you realise but if you want to sell something, it is best to adapt market mechanisms and principles. Above you are referring to a entirely different watch in an attempt to justify (to yourself?) the price of the one you are attempting to sell. This may work for you, but not necessarily for its potential new owner.

Ch24 is full of Exp II that have been sitting still since Christmas I'd say. They are not moving as the sellers are reluctant to drop the prices to what market accepts right now. They may be thinking that market recovers and Exp II will be once again in demand etc. Likelihood of that is very slim though as if it wasn't for the pandemic this watch would never have been in such a high demand anyway. Never was before.

My take is that the moment these are readily available the prices for used watches will tank to reflect higher risk of not buying from a reputable dealer who genuinely cares for its business and its customers, and the fact that used watches are simply … not new anymore.

Been in that situation myself before where I felt I'd let go if I got what I was comfortable with and if I cant get that I simply keep. It's a fair thing to do IMO and doesnt necessarily mean one is unrealistic or deluded. Being at the very edge - pricing to sell - is for when you absolutely want or must sell.

there are brand new from 10k and excellent condition from 9.8/9.9 (from a professional seller). They will net 9,300 or less at asking. Imagine what they are buying in for.

That's where the market is unfortunately, but maybe you bag a buyer who is happy to pay retail. Not sure how c24 is more hassle tho if anything it's much less hassle!

it’s interesting how much traffic them two watches have generated on here anyway…..still not a bid though……

I have an itchy finger myself on a watch I am tracking (not for the Rolex); but it’s the type of itch that when scratched will leave me at least 3k out of pocket (on a good day; 5k on a bad one).