Winter Olympics on TV

robinph · 23-02-2010 10:11pm

Think someone asked a page or so back about the speed differnce between the boarders and skiiers on the cross course:
Boarders Qualifying times
Skiers Qualifying Times

The course is aparently a Boarder Cross one though as a specific Skiier Cross course would have a different profile to the jumps etc from what they were saying the other day in the commentary.

robinph · 23-02-2010 10:21pm

The women look to be struggeling with getting enough speed for clearing the jumps.

Slideshowbob · 23-02-2010 10:23pm

what time are the irish girls on tv?

robinph · 23-02-2010 10:28pm

Slideshowbob wrote: »

what time are the irish girls on tv?

The bob starts at 1am I think they said on the last link segment on Beeb2. They run in order of world ranking on the first day so will be GB first and the Irish will be right near the end, then a short time later (30mins?) the second run will start.

opinion guy · 23-02-2010 10:46pm

tunguska wrote: »

Shes Ok. No Lindsey Vonn though........

In fairness Vonn is not that amazing looking. Too much American teeth if you as me.

I will say this. Skiiercross is f**king awesome. I wanna try it!!!!

kmart6 · 23-02-2010 11:02pm

Wouldn't mind seeing the Bobsleigh later because Aoife is from my hometown, but really need to sleep tonight...too much college work:(

opinion guy · 23-02-2010 11:21pm

Christ - jsut saw the last few runs of mens' GS. Carlo Janka is bloody amazing. Technique is unreal - just seems a league better than everyone else.

robinph · 23-02-2010 11:32pm

Why are the blue jacketed officials handing the skier crossers advertising skis when they cross the line? It's pretty normal to hold your skis up to get a bit of TV time for your sponsor when you cross the line in skiing, but the officials seem to be taking their skis off them, and then handing them another single ski from a different manufacturer to hold up for the cameras.

Star Bingo · 24-02-2010 2:38am

hey the women's bobsleigh is on. when's the irish birds up?

scratch that. just went in 1st heat; 55.04. not good

rainbow kirby · 24-02-2010 2:45am

Star Bingo wrote: »

hey the women's bobsleigh is on. when's the irish birds up?

They were just on, they're in last place.

Star Bingo · 24-02-2010 2:49am

yeah, got it. just edited ;-

robinph · 24-02-2010 3:14am

rainbow kirby wrote: »

They were just on, they're in last place.

I thought the Irish bob had a cleaner run than both the Aussies and Japan teams, they lost it in the start I think. The driver seemed to load a lot sooner than any of the others were doing. Think they said she was the tallest in the competition, so surely should be using more of that to their advantage in the start rather than hopping in early.

The Japanese team were very lucky not to crash as well, the driver disappeared from view for a turn as she thought they were about to go over, but they are only tiny so much harder for them to push start a heavier sled.

LiamMc · 24-02-2010 3:59am

Unfortunately, latter stages of second run and the IRL1 team did not run when other teams around them have already gone.

Both BBC and Vancouver2010 don't have the 2nd run time at the moment for IRL1.

LiamMc · 24-02-2010 4:30am

Aoife Hoey and Claire Bergin went last after the front-runners. they improved .55 secs on their first run. An amazing improvement and have already gone above the Russia2 team.

They have reason to improve again as they are only .02 secs behind their nemesis AUS1.

Vancouver 2010
http://www.vancouver2010.com/olympic-bobsleigh-schedule-results/
(Bobsleigh women Feb 23 Heat 1 and Heat 2)
Heat 3 and Heat 4 to be run Feb. 24

BBC Winter Olympics, Bobsleigh start list
http://www.vancouver2010.com/olympic-bobsleigh-schedule-results/

robinph · 24-02-2010 11:39am

I thought they had missed the Irish bob on the Beeb coverage as well, but they had their run at 21st, after the Canadians who were rank 1 going 20th. It's down to the Aussies being the extra team but they only do the fastest 20 teams in reverse order, then the teams from 21st on, but becasue there should only have been 20 teams anyway the 21st team is out on their own at the end.

The Irish team have moved up a place to 20th ahead of the Russians after the second run. They definately have a chance to top the Aussies, and the Japanese if they have a really good run. Their second run was quicker than both of the Japanese and Aussie teams runs, they just lost a lot of time on run 1.

opinion guy · 24-02-2010 11:42am

robinph wrote: »

Why are the blue jacketed officials handing the skier crossers advertising skis when they cross the line? It's pretty normal to hold your skis up to get a bit of TV time for your sponsor when you cross the line in skiing, but the officials seem to be taking their skis off them, and then handing them another single ski from a different manufacturer to hold up for the cameras.

Didn't notice this but i did notice one of those guys bitching out one of theskiiers for moving from the line they stand in when they were waiting along time for a result. I thought it was bad form actually to be bitching out the athletes.

robinph wrote: »

I thought the Irish bob had a cleaner run than both the Aussies and Japan teams, they lost it in the start I think. The driver seemed to load a lot sooner than any of the others were doing. Think they said she was the tallest in the competition, so surely should be using more of that to their advantage in the start rather than hopping in early.

Really? I thought they stayed out much longer!

Strange thing about the running order ? Surely going last is disadvantageous to the Irish girls ?

Edit: when are the Irish Alpine competitors going ?

robinph · 24-02-2010 12:09pm

opinion guy wrote: »

Didn't notice this but i did notice one of those guys bitching out one of theskiiers for moving from the line they stand in when they were waiting along time for a result. I thought it was bad form actually to be bitching out the athletes.

They were a lot more regimented in the finish are for the skiers than they had been for the boarders for some reason. All the skiiers made to stand in a line holding sponsors skis up, the boarders just got to the finish and went "woop" then walked off.

opinion guy wrote: »

Really? I thought they stayed out much longer!

Strange thing about the running order ? Surely going last is disadvantageous to the Irish girls ?

It was very am when watching it so I guess my perception was a bit dodgy at the time. Seems they were not quite as slow at the start as I first thought though:
Run 1 split times

As fort the start order, they always go in revers ranked order on the later runs which means that the no1 ranked team goes last and potentially has the worst conditions. Because there is an extra team though it would be unfair on the no1 team to have had 20 teams use the ice before them rather than the normal 19, so the 21st team goes after 1st.

They do the same with the various skiing events as well so that the top people get a fairer run with 30th-1st place going first followed by 31st-??th who are well out of contention by then anyway.

opinion guy wrote: »

Edit: when are the Irish Alpine competitors going ?

Womens GS starts at 6pm today which I think Ireland has the one entrant in if I'm remembering correctly which ones she's doing.

Norwayviking · 24-02-2010 2:45pm

Just got this from the wall street journal.Typical yanks i guess.Just shows that it is a bigger world out there.
Not much of a mystery to me anyway lol.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704188104575084093472505542.html?mod=WSJ_latestheadlines

Anyway not the best olympics for Norway.

Skid · 24-02-2010 2:56pm

rainbow kirby wrote: »

Good ol' Andy ****, did better than the Austrian luger Manuel Pfister. :pac:

I thought you were making that name up!

Manuel Pfister came 10th in the Luge. Maybe **** and Pfister should get together and ..... nah maybe not!

robinph · 24-02-2010 2:58pm

^ That article seems a bit bitter from the Americans, how dare a country with a lot of snow beat us in snow based events. :mad:

They should maybe have written about Netherlands doing so well in the speed skating events, or the UK in the skeleton over the years.

robinph · 24-02-2010 3:20pm

There were two Pfisters in the Luge.

Norwayviking · 24-02-2010 3:55pm

Couldnt agree more.

Norwayviking · 24-02-2010 4:19pm

No Norwegian lived here since 1998.

metaoblivia · 24-02-2010 4:52pm

robinph wrote: »

^ That article seems a bit bitter from the Americans, how dare a country with a lot of snow beat us in snow based events. :mad:

They should maybe have written about Netherlands doing so well in the speed skating events, or the UK in the skeleton over the years.

I didn't get that at all from the article. They seemed to be celebrating Norwegian achievement in the Winter Olympics and explained some of the factors that go into that achievement. It reminds me of gymnastics. During the 1970's and 80's, women's gymnastics was dominated by the Soviet Union, and the only country that could challenge them was Romania, a tiny country by comparison, with far fewer resources.

It's easy for countries like the US, China, Russia to be dominate in the Olympics because they have huge populations and lots of resources. But when a smaller country maintains that same dominance, it's far more interesting because the reasons for their success go far beyond how many people and how much money they funnel into sports.

At least, that's how I interpreted it.

opinion guy · 24-02-2010 5:17pm

Norwayviking wrote: »

No Norwegian lived here since 1998.

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Tabnabs · 24-02-2010 5:27pm

opinion guy wrote: »

?

+1

tunguska · 24-02-2010 5:42pm

Womens Ski cross was brilliant, apparently there were some serious crowds out for it yesterday and the whole place in general has gone ski cross mad. It is an exciting event but not for the faint of heart. That poor russian girl in the first heat came down badly, they reckon she did her ACL. Funniest moment of all though was when in a quater final one of the girls who had stalled at the first wu-tang tried to catch up with the other two and came flying over the last hill and crashed in spectacular fashion. Actually crashed and fell over the finishing line and proceeded to entertain the crowd by doing a starfish. Top class.

Womens Giant slalom tonight at 9pm. Hopefully Hughie will be there.

Norwayviking · 24-02-2010 6:27pm

I thought you were making that name up!
No Norwegian lived here since 1998.

robinph · 24-02-2010 6:32pm

Norwayviking wrote: »

I thought you were making that name up!
No Norwegian lived here since 1998.

I think that was in relation to a previous post about the Pfister brothers and the luge, which came after another post about a Herr **** in the ski jumping.

Norwayviking · 24-02-2010 6:39pm

robinph wrote: »

I think that was in relation to a previous post about the Pfister brothers and the luge, which came after another post about a Herr **** in the ski jumping.

Yeah i see it now lol sorry about that just new to this:)

Norwayviking · 24-02-2010 6:52pm

metaoblivia wrote: »

I didn't get that at all from the article. They seemed to be celebrating Norwegian achievement in the Winter Olympics and explained some of the factors that go into that achievement. It reminds me of gymnastics. During the 1970's and 80's, women's gymnastics was dominated by the Soviet Union, and the only country that could challenge them was Romania, a tiny country by comparison, with far fewer resources.

It's easy for countries like the US, China, Russia to be dominate in the Olympics because they have huge populations and lots of resources. But when a smaller country maintains that same dominance, it's far more interesting because the reasons for their success go far beyond how many people and how much money they funnel into sports.

At least, that's how I interpreted it.

Yeah i agree on that

And i think this has something to do with it as well long traditions.

Morgedal - The cradle of modern skiing

07/05/2009 9:32 am

Morgedal - The cradle of modern skiing

Morgedal is a tiny village nestled in the mountains of Western Telemark, set against a backdrop of picturesque forest-clad mountain ridges and slopes, which are decked in wild flowers in the summer and snow in the winter.

One of Morgedal’s most famous sons is Sondre Ouverson Norheim, the skiing legend who was born here in 1825, though he died in Dakota, USA in 1897. Sondre was born in Øverbø, a cotter’s croft and even as a child, skis played an important part in his life during the winter.

Sondre and his contemporaies from Morgedal and throughout Western Telemark had adopted a style of skiing which was unique at that time. Their skills were exceptional in comparison to those of Norwegians elsewhere. The type of ski, with its increased side cut, is still in production to this day, and the Telemark turns and landings, expressions and jargon from 19th Century Western Telemark and Morgedal are still used in the terminology of modern alpine skiing.

Skis based on those of Sondre Norheim, are in production in Morgedal to this day. Sondre is known throughout the world and avid skiers journey to Morgedal to walk in his footsteps. Sondre Norheim is generally accepted to be the father of free-heel skiing.

Aidric · 24-02-2010 7:15pm

Kirsten McGarry skies 61st for Ireland in the Giant Slalom (1st run). By my reckoning that should come around in about an hours time. For those who can't view it there is live tracking here. http://www.vancouver2010.com/olympic-alpine-skiing/schedule-and-results/ladies-giant-slalom-1st-run_asw030101Kk.html

Aidric · 24-02-2010 7:54pm

She should actually be out in a couple of mins.

kmart6 · 24-02-2010 8:19pm

Atleast she can say she finished ahead of Vonn:p

Skid · 25-02-2010 2:37am

Third Round of the Bobsleigh is on now ... Only the Top 20 of the 21 get to go in the fourth and final run.

Teams are going from first to last so I guess Ireland will go 20th - Hope they can build on the second run yesterday.

opinion guy · 25-02-2010 2:47am

GB1 just crashed out - OUCH - jaysus one of them got a right wollop to the head

Skid · 25-02-2010 2:56am

54.73 in third run, good enough for 19th place. Russia have gone ahead of Ireland, but we have topped our arch rivals Australia, who are in 21st and last.

Possibility that GB1 might not race again as they took a heavy crash, which would let Australia back in for the last run.

opinion guy · 25-02-2010 3:02am

Apparently gb1 won't run.
ok so we need to catch the Japanese next!

Guy:Incognito · 25-02-2010 3:11am

opinion guy wrote: »

GB1 just crashed out - OUCH - jaysus one of them got a right wollop to the head

They still managed to get down quicker than us.:)

opinion guy · 25-02-2010 3:15am

opinion guy wrote: »

haha thats just taunting Death now isn't it ?

Why are the Brits so good at this sport ?

This was in reference to skeleton. I've just found out why. The British sports council put 3 million a year into skeleton and its their most highly funded winter sport!

Skid · 25-02-2010 3:24am

opinion guy wrote: »

This was in reference to skeleton. I've just found out why. The British sports council put 3 million a year into skeleton and its their most highly funded winter sport!

Skeleton is Ireland's most succesful Winter Sport too. I remember coming home during the 2002 to find Lord Clifton Hugh Lancelot de Verdon Wrottesley in the hunt for a bronze medal for Ireland in the skeleton.:D:confused::D

He came fourth in the end, shame he didn't get the medal but still a great performance.

Skid · 25-02-2010 3:30am

Looks like they didn't let Australia back in, even though GB1 pulled out.

Japan stayed ahead of us, but Russia crashed, so I think we can do no worse than 18th.

Well done to our girls, they beat the Australians who tried to kick us out before it started, and finished ahead of a few more.

And anyone who goes down that run four times deserves a medal. The Dutch mens Four Man Bob team have dropped out before their competition even starts.

opinion guy · 25-02-2010 3:57am

Holy crap!

Germany 2 just crashed in a BIG way. Brake woman came out of sled at 145kph

Edit: they didn't let aussies back in ? Good.

Skid · 25-02-2010 4:08am

That Germany crash looked bad, think they are OK though.

Canada finish 1-2, Good for them, but obviously the Ireland v Australia face off was the real highlight of this event, Job Done!

robinph · 25-02-2010 9:04am

opinion guy wrote: »

This was in reference to skeleton. I've just found out why. The British sports council put 3 million a year into skeleton and its their most highly funded winter sport!

They give more funding to the events that had the best results in the previous games to try and build on that success, which in the last three games has resulted in a bronze, silver and now gold so clearly works.

LiamMc · 25-02-2010 1:50pm

robinph wrote: »

They give more funding to the events that had the best results in the previous games to try and build on that success, which in the last three games has resulted in a bronze, silver and now gold so clearly works.

Clearly works for the Skeleton (at this time). The same policy is taken for the Short Track and out of all the distances I don't know if Great Britain have got an athlete into a Final.

Short Track hit the headlines in Britain when Wilf O'Reilly won some medals. Was there a Bradley before O'Reilly that won medals when the sport was at invitational level at the Olympics?

robinph · 25-02-2010 3:47pm

Short Track seems even more pot luck than the sliding events though and I think they were a bit unlucky with not getting anyone through in the womens 500(?). The skaters were good enough, but the DSQ due to a bit of argy bargy with the Canadian was a bit harsh in one semi, and I think the GB one in the other semi was the more junior skater so was a little out of her league, but as the Aussie proved in 2002 it's still worth turning up. There were a couple of very young lads in the team as well I think so will be expecting better results in Russia next time round.

I think that Wilf chap won in Calgary when it was a demo event, and without the need for the rest of the field to fall over.

opinion guy · 25-02-2010 3:58pm

robinph wrote: »

The skaters were good enough, but the DSQ due to a bit of argy bargy with the Canadian was a bit harsh in one semi,

Agreed. I thought that was an appalling decision (maybe even biased?). Horrible way to go out of your last games.

did you see the women's relay 5000m with the koreans winning and then getting dsq ? ouch. korean coach looked lik eh was going to rip the ref apart with his bare hands

Aidric · 25-02-2010 4:32pm

opinion guy wrote: »

did you see the women's relay 5000m with the koreans winning and then getting dsq ? ouch. korean coach looked lik eh was going to rip the ref apart with his bare hands

Saw that. It was the correct decision so he can get back in his box.

opinion guy · 25-02-2010 5:27pm

Aidric wrote: »

Saw that. It was the correct decision so he can get back in his box.

to be honest i don't know enough about the sport to comment. but i can see its sport with damn-harsh decisions!

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