What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

like I said, I don't know her circumstances. I don't know her story and one line is not a story.

she is not doing anything illegal.

if someone makes a fraudulent asylum claim, I'm sure they will not get.leave to remain.

The stats to prove they don't get to remain have already been provided.

Only a few hundred deported despite these cases being across the board.. it's too "arduous" to deport them as they say themselves.

They stay in the system so long they just give them the leave to remain in the end.

I already said in this thread I dealt with someone in DP who was refused and informed by letter to... Castlerea Prison. He had been in prison(likely the only reason he even was) and he was appealing it.

I saw him during lockdown(summer 2020) over two years later(dealing or buying drugs so an all round great addition) So even committing crimes in DP doesn't result in a refusal.

Not really

They shouldn't be allowed access to State funded education until they have proven themselves to be a legitimate Asylum seeker. Until that is proven, they're simply an economic migrant that has claimed Asylum as a way to avoid our restrictions on immigration, and possibly also, seeking the funding that comes with being an Asylum seeker. Any education, especially third level education, should be financed by the applicant, along with her living costs while studying.. the same as any other migrant who comes here to study. Why the need for Asylum? She doesn't sound any different from the thousands of Chinese students who come here, pay their fees, and study here for extended periods.. except, that she, somehow, deserves Asylum and support from the Irish state?

You seem to want to make it sound like people want to deny access to primary/secondary education.. except we're talking about third level education, including an advanced degree.. likely paid by the taxpayer. Not many Irish people get such a free ride to get an adult education.

The point is that after an extended period of time she has been unable to prove that she should be eligible for State support as an Asylum seeker. If the others claims are accurate, that's after 7 years of claims and appeals. Surely, even you can admit that if this was a legitimate case for Asylum, then she would have provided the necessary proof, and if not... then she shouldn't be occupying the space (and resources) that would be given to a legitimate Asylum seeker.

I must admit that I'm always a bit bemused by your posts. You seem to have more interest and support for those who scam the system (it doesn't matter how broken the system is, they're still taking advantage of it), than genuine people in need. Or are you going to continue in the belief that resources are infinite, and Ireland can provide for everyone?

Access to education is a fundamental right, and nobody is blocking it. Getting supported/financed to do that education is not a fundamental right.. except for certain nations and their own citizens. You realise the University fees are higher for foreigners wanting to study here? Access is available should you meet the requirements and can pay the fees involved.

If a migrant or Asylum seeker wishes to support themselves entirely while studying here, I doubt anyone would object to it. Although, if they continue to fail in their Asylum claims, they should be treated the same as any other applicant for a visa to study here, and should they fail to meet the requirements, be deported.

Pretty simple... no matter how much you deflect from answering the points directly.

Absolutely, good to see you acknowledge that.

sure.. and international law requires access of both primary and secondary education, even for illegal migrants.

However... the case before us, relates to third level education, and the achievement of getting an advanced degree, a Masters. That's very much outside both the constitution and international law.