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Terror incident in Paris

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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    The Taliban don't operate in the middle east.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Man with broke phone


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Hang on a second. Didn't Trump proclaim he had a peace deal with the Taliban? Yes he did.



    Not much of a deal if you are suggesting it's falling apart already. So much for the master dealmaker and his "art of the deal".

    He has, but from the Talibans point of view it looks like a violent coup with the democrats stealing power. A few splinter groups will get out of hand but in the grand scheme of things they will hold tight and see if democracy can happen.

    If you signed a phone contract with 3 after having an issue with virgin media and virgin media seized all their offices and shops a few weeks later chanting defund the police would you be happy?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    Back when the Hebdo massacre happened, publications around the world could have helped out by printing the pictures. If you had all major Western media publishing them, it would have made it more difficult to see this as just a Charlie Hebdo thing and moved the target off them somewhat. I understand their fears for their journalists but I think capitulating like that sent the wrong message. That and those cnuts could hardly go after everyone.

    I disagree, Charlie hebdo should never have printed those incendiary pictures


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,683 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    The Taliban don't operate in the middle east.

    Technically they do but not under their own banner. Pakistani and Afghani Taliban fighters have operated as part of Iranian proxies such as Liwa Fatemiyon and Liwa Zainebiyoun in Syria.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,418 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    He has, but from the Talibans point of view it looks like a violent coup with the democrats stealing power. A few splinter groups will get out of hand but in the grand scheme of things they will hold tight and see if democracy can happen.

    If you signed a phone contract with 3 after having an issue with virgin media and virgin media seized all their offices and shops a few weeks later chanting defund the police would you be happy?

    And for stupidest post of the thread the winner is......

    :pac:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,503 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Obviously the mainstream media are in collusion with muslim extremists to impose sharia law on us unsuspecting westerners. Better look to the ports, you never know what's stirring inside the cargo bay. You take Dun Laoghaire tonight just in case, I'll keep a watchful eye on Rosslare.

    Ahem. OK, here’s what we've got:
    the Rand Corporation Antifa, in conjunction with the saucer people NWO, under the supervision of the reverse vampires lizard people, are forcing our parents patriots to go to bed early be racist in a fiendish plot to eliminate the meal of dinner! brown faces and "different".
    We’re through the looking glass, here, people.

    ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    I suppose if your social media feed is populated by reactionary headbangers who jump on every incident to fill your brain with 'the world is ending' hysterics then it would appear that the mainstream news-media is involved in some 'leftist' conspiracy, or some mad shit like that.


  • Registered Users, Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,314 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Religion of peace at it again!!1 Wake up sheeple !!!11!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The ould meat cleavers of peace again. It's a price worth paying for kebabs am I right?!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    And for stupidest post of the thread the winner is......

    :pac:


    It's not his fault. It's his phone. He's typing perfectly sensible stuff but the broken phone adds, removes and reorders the words to make the posts look stupid. That kind of malware has been around for ages. It often gets installed with gab/voat/parler/waifu bundle installer.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,302 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Diversity incidents don't shock anymore.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,074 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    If you signed a phone contract with 3 after having an issue with virgin media and virgin media seized all their offices and shops a few weeks later chanting defund the police would you be happy?

    That's brilliant in fairness. Compete nonsense but hilarious :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,710 ✭✭✭seenitall


    I wonder if this kind of event could have an impact on the final outcome of the current trial.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,634 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    And for stupidest post of the thread the winner is......

    :pac:

    That's an early call in a thread like this. Like giving man of the match in the 10th minute.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    I disagree, Charlie hebdo should never have printed those incendiary pictures


    Well, fcuk that for an opinion. This is Europe. Around 500 years ago, our ancestors started the process of spreading knowledge and slowly shaking off the stranglehold that kings and religion had on free thought. It's been a long process that has gone backwards a few times and played out differently in different countries but for the most part, we've moved past the notion that the absurdities of religious belief are above mockery. Over the course of hundreds of years of mockery, the power of religion has waned. At least in Europe.



    Religion is OK when not taken too seriously but when it is taken seriously, it's a cancer on society and Sunni Islam is in my opinion the worst of them for that. It's not only a personal belief system but a political ideology that its strongest adherents believe should encompass all aspects of life and everyone else's life. It's the kind of intolerance that we can do without.



    I get that there are risks but we can't be in a position where mockery of a particular religion isn't allowed due to the craziness of its adherents. If we can't call a grown man who marries a child a pedo, we're in a bad place. The right to call stupid things stupid is vital to freedom from expression and for that to be infringed because of threats is something that we can't have here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    I suppose if your social media feed is populated by reactionary headbangers who jump on every incident to fill your brain with 'the world is ending' hysterics then it would appear that the mainstream news-media is involved in some 'leftist' conspiracy, or some mad shit like that.

    Well the media tends to be more left wing than right, I think that's a given.

    But there's no cover up of this story at all. It's not a massive story (nobody is dead.. yet at any rate), but it's well reported. The fact that it is Islamic terrorism is not in dispute either.
    He has, but from the Talibans point of view it looks like a violent coup with the democrats stealing power.

    Ya what?
    I disagree, Charlie hebdo should never have printed those incendiary pictures

    Some people just want to watch the world burn, and making excuses for them is doing the devil's work. The Charlie Hebdo massacre was only one of dozens ISIL inspired attacks in France.

    I suppose the Bataclan theater should not have shown public support for Israel. The Hypercacher kosher supermarket should not have been allowed to have provocative Jewish products. The Toulouse and Montauban shootings was in retaliation for the provocative ban on wearing religious clothing, and also because of the presence of Jews in France. The Nice attack was generally due to the provocative French bombing of ISIL targets. The perpetrator of the Paris bomb plot (who eventually went on to behead a priest in a church in Normandy) was motivated by.. the provocative presence of French people.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    The ould meat cleavers of peace again. It's a price worth paying for kebabs am I right?!

    Someday the Europeans will regret the day they fell for the "You don't need a gun. We're the Govt. We'll protect you." lie.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Well the media tends to be more left wing than right, I think that's a given..

    The corporate media? The media owned by billionaires? The media whose journalists prostitute themselves to corporate power? The corporate, billionaire owned, hack media, is 'left wing'?

    I'm sure you've been well conditioned by reactionary oddballs to come to that conclusion alright.

    The collective bed-wetting the corporate media engages in when Sanders in the US, Corbyn in the UK, or Mary Lou here, get near the levers of power demonstrates perfectly to those of a more thoughtful disposition exactly how 'left wing' the media is.

    Edit: And the idea that the three names above indicate some sort of leftward paradigm shift is absolutely laughable and indicates just how thoroughly defeated 'the left' is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    I disagree, Charlie hebdo should never have printed those incendiary pictures

    Get on your f*cking bike. The only mistake they made was not printing more of them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭bobbyy gee


    I wonder were the smart to print the same cartoons again


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    GT89 wrote: »
    Mainstream media not reporting on this much there's a surprise

    Main news on BBC world news
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world

    Main news on sky world news
    https://news.sky.com/world

    4th headline on RTE
    https://www.rte.ie/news/world/

    Not a mention in the Meath Chronicle,so you could have a point
    https://www.meathchronicle.ie/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭TheBlackPill


    bobbyy gee wrote: »
    I wonder were the smart to print the same cartoons again

    They reprinted the cartoons recently to coincide with the trial of the 20 or so muslims who helped the attackers. Even in Belfast at the nadir of the troubles you wouldnt find even one lad that thought killing cartoonists for an English newspaper would be a laudable and moral act.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,027 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Mr. Karate wrote: »
    Someday the Europeans will regret the day they fell for the "You don't need a gun. We're the Govt. We'll protect you." lie.

    Someday Americans will regret all the mass school shootings due to their belief that citizens needed easy access to guns to protect themselves from their government


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,291 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    GT89 wrote: »
    Mainstream media not reporting on this much there's a surprise

    Yeah your Twitter feed is so underground maannnn


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,315 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    Who'd have thoughts that the suspects would have been 18 year old immigrants from Pakistan?

    Everyday normal people paying the price for left wing guilt complexes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭TheBlackPill


    Pkiernan wrote: »
    Who'd have thoughts that the suspects would have been 18 year old immigrants from Pakistan?

    Everyday normal people paying the price for left wing guilt complexes.

    judging by the photos i would say he is in his mid 20s


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    Well the media tends to be more left wing than right, I think that's a given.

    But there's no cover up of this story at all. It's not a massive story (nobody is dead.. yet at any rate), but it's well reported. The fact that it is Islamic terrorism is not in dispute either.



    Ya what?



    Some people just want to watch the world burn, and making excuses for them is doing the devil's work. The Charlie Hebdo massacre was only one of dozens ISIL inspired attacks in France.

    I suppose the Bataclan theater should not have shown public support for Israel. The Hypercacher kosher supermarket should not have been allowed to have provocative Jewish products. The Toulouse and Montauban shootings was in retaliation for the provocative ban on wearing religious clothing, and also because of the presence of Jews in France. The Nice attack was generally due to the provocative French bombing of ISIL targets. The perpetrator of the Paris bomb plot (who eventually went on to behead a priest in a church in Normandy) was motivated by.. the provocative presence of French people.

    Say that to families who had loved ones slaughtered like pigs because of those pictures.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    The corporate media? The media owned by billionaires? The media whose journalists prostitute themselves to corporate power? The corporate, billionaire owned, hack media, is 'left wing'?

    Predominantly, yes. Or you could describe it as 'liberal' if you like. This doesn't necessarily have a bearing on the authenticity of the journalism, you understand, but it's generally an appropriate description of the political leaning.

    What part is hard to understand? Is it the billionaire aspect? The large corporation bit? The same can be said of universities, particularly in America. Is your view similarly that Hardvard, Yale, Stanford, Rutgers are all right wing establishments, because of the plutocrats that run them?

    Finally I have an explanation for all the far-right propaganda on Channel 4. It's because they are corporate media owned by billionaires. Thanks Junkyard Tom for your as ever, insightful analysis.

    I don't think there's been any paradigm shift to the left. Journalism for many, many years has been more left than right wing.

    I don't know why the media was so dead set against Corbyn. But the labour elite were antagonistic to Corbyn, so I'd say that would have a bearing on it. The corporate billionare connection after all. The same thing may well have been true in relation to Sanders - he did not have the backing of the elite within the Democratic party.

    Just because someone has left-wing affiliation doesn't necessarily mean that they espouse those values.

    And for what it's worth, Mary Lou is a nationalist, not a socialist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭TheBlackPill


    Say that to families who had loved ones slaughtered like pigs because of those pictures.
    they were not slaughtered because of those pictures. Militant Islam has been slaughtering people since foundation, it brookes no competition. It can not be negotiatied with from a position of weakness/submission. The more one gives in to Islam, the more emboldened it gets, the more carnage it causes.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Say that to families who had loved ones slaughtered like pigs because of those pictures.

    Nobody was slaughtered because of those pictures. The pictures are not to blame.


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