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Terror incident in Paris

  • 25-09-2020 5:06pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 519 ✭✭✭


    Four people attacked with a meat cleaver in Paris by the old Charlie Hebdo offices. Sad to see how regular this type of crime has become. Pictures of the suspect are already online along with the bludgeoned cleaver.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Mainstream media not reporting on this much there's a surprise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Actually, just google "Paris" and most major news outlets have a mention of the attack.


  • Registered Users Posts: 519 ✭✭✭splashuum


    When mayor of London Sadiq Khan stated terrorism was “part and parcel” of living in a city. He set a tone for Europe.


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    GT89 wrote: »
    Mainstream media not reporting on this much there's a surprise

    Really because I can find plenty of reports of it, including that unfortunately two people were attacked, not four as originally reported, and two arrests made so far.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Back when the Hebdo massacre happened, publications around the world could have helped out by printing the pictures. If you had all major Western media publishing them, it would have made it more difficult to see this as just a Charlie Hebdo thing and moved the target off them somewhat. I understand their fears for their journalists but I think capitulating like that sent the wrong message. That and those cnuts could hardly go after everyone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Man with broke phone


    With the threat of Trump leaving the white house the Taliban are starting up again.

    Its been looking promising in the middle east he has been doing the last few years. He started a method never used by american leaders before where he didnt start a war in the middle east.

    Theres a couple of countries had signed peace deals and were recognizing Isreal as a state. Of course the press here doesnt report on the good things Trump does but he is nominated for the Nobel peace prize twice. The other one is his work in the Balkans.

    Id say the loser kids are seeing the democrats ( who start a new war every term ) rioting in to power and probably see it as a call to arms. .

    Brace yourself from being scared out in crowded events or on the bus to work for a while.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    Really because I can find plenty of reports of it, including that unfortunately two people were attacked, not four as originally reported, and two arrests made so far.

    Will it be the leading story on the news tonight no it won't. Might get a snippet but not a leading story.


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    splashuum wrote: »
    When mayor of London Sadiq Khan stated terrorism was “part and parcel” of living in a city. He set a tone for Europe.

    Think you'll find that he didn't say that, but requires actually reading something other than grifter sites


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    GT89 wrote: »
    Will it be the leading story on the news tonight no it won't. Might get a snippet but not a leading story.

    It will be in France

    Why would it be leading story in Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,547 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    GT89 wrote: »
    Mainstream media not reporting on this much there's a surprise

    It's the third item on my Google News feed with link to both the Guardian and BBC. So I think it's fair to say you're wrong on that.
    GT89 wrote: »
    Will it be the leading story on the news tonight no it won't. Might get a snippet but not a leading story.

    Why on earth would it be the leading story anywhere but France? The UK, for example, has over 6000 Covid cases today and they had a police officer shot by someone who smuggled a gun into custody with them. There are other things going on in the world today.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    What group was it? Any organisation claimed responsibility yet?


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    GT89 wrote: »
    Will it be the leading story on the news tonight no it won't. Might get a snippet but not a leading story.

    Which news?
    French news yeah I would say it would be the main story, don't know why it would be the main story on Irish news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,996 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    If anyone speaks French, BFM TV is brilliant for coverage of things like this. Sorry for all involved.

    Their coverage of the Charlie Hebdo, and Bataclan and other things like the fire in Notre Dame was live, real, on the spot and quite frightening to watch at times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Man with broke phone


    If anyone speaks French, BFM TV is brilliant for coverage of things like this. Sorry for all involved.

    Their coverage of the Charlie Hebdo, and Bataclan and other things like the fire in Notre Dame was live, real, on the spot and quite frightening to watch at times.


    So whats going on Mrs I speak arnt I great.

    Je parle francais or some mierde.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    It will be in France

    Why would it be leading story in Ireland?

    To wake people up to dangers of third world immigration maybe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,932 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    The whole trope of terrorism not being reported by mainstream media?
    Do those posting that, actually believe it?

    It was headline news on Sky News at @12pm.
    Even though the shooting of a police officer in the UK was taking up much of their coverage.
    RTE initially reported on their website as 2 injured, also so both had reports on their leading bulletins.

    Do people really subscribe to notion that there is an MSM effort to underreport or reduce reporting of attacks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Man with broke phone


    Police officer was shot in London today too, said suspect was on the terror list. I wonder was it related?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,996 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    So whats going on Mrs I speak arnt I great.

    Je parle francais or some mierde.

    Thanks. English classes for you or put down that drink or spliff :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,657 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    Why won't the mainstream media report on these things that are being reported in the mainstream media?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    GT89 wrote: »
    Mainstream media not reporting on this much there's a surprise

    Where did you hear about it out of interest?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,661 ✭✭✭quokula


    It's being over-reported in the media if anything.

    How often would you expect a non-fatal stabbing in a foreign country to be top of the headlines here? Because not a day would pass without that happening somewhere. Or does it only matter on the rare occasion when you can use the perpetrator of the stabbing to justify your existing prejudices?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    With the threat of Trump leaving the white house the Taliban are starting up again.

    Its been looking promising in the middle east he has been doing the last few years. He started a method never used by american leaders before where he didnt start a war in the middle east.

    Theres a couple of countries had signed peace deals and were recognizing Isreal as a state. Of course the press here doesnt report on the good things Trump does but he is nominated for the Nobel peace prize twice. The other one is his work in the Balkans.

    Id say the loser kids are seeing the democrats ( who start a new war every term ) rioting in to power and probably see it as a call to arms. .

    Brace yourself from being scared out in crowded events or on the bus to work for a while.


    You need to fix that phone of yours. It's changing your posts into nonsense after you press "Submit Reply".


  • Registered Users Posts: 967 ✭✭✭SecretsOfEarth


    banie01 wrote: »
    The whole trope of terrorism not being reported by mainstream media?
    Do those posting that, actually believe it?

    It was headline news on Sky News at @12pm.
    Even though the shooting of a police officer in the UK was taking up much of their coverage.
    RTE initially reported on their website as 2 injured, also so both had reports on their leading bulletins.

    Do people really subscribe to notion that there is an MSM effort to underreport or reduce reporting of attacks?

    Don't understand it really, "mainstream media" especially constant news channels like Sky report these things to a huge depth. Sky repeat most of the same information at least once an hour. The argument from those complaining about it make no sense.

    You're right in that the "mainstream media" can't win really - if they underreport, it's a cover-up conspiracy. If they overreport, it's a cover-up conspiracy to hide something else, or just part of the "radical left agenda"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    With the threat of Trump leaving the white house the Taliban are starting up again.

    Hang on a second. Didn't Trump proclaim he had a peace deal with the Taliban? Yes he did.



    Not much of a deal if you are suggesting it's falling apart already. So much for the master dealmaker and his "art of the deal".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    GT89 wrote: »
    To wake people up to dangers of third world immigration maybe.

    Immigrant(s) from the "third world" conducted the attacks?

    Continue....tell us how the only mitigation measure against this type of low capability symbolic attack is a border.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    GT89 wrote: »
    Mainstream media not reporting on this much there's a surprise

    Except all the mainstream media outlets who are reporting it?


  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why won't the mainstream media report on these things that are being reported in the mainstream media?

    Obviously the mainstream media are in collusion with muslim extremists to impose sharia law on us unsuspecting westerners. Better look to the ports, you never know what's stirring inside the cargo bay. You take Dun Laoghaire tonight just in case, I'll keep a watchful eye on Rosslare.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,865 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Brace yourself from being scared out in crowded events or on the bus to work for a while.

    I tend to stay away from crowded events and buses anyway with this whole virus thing.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,794 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    The Taliban don't operate in the middle east.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Man with broke phone


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Hang on a second. Didn't Trump proclaim he had a peace deal with the Taliban? Yes he did.



    Not much of a deal if you are suggesting it's falling apart already. So much for the master dealmaker and his "art of the deal".

    He has, but from the Talibans point of view it looks like a violent coup with the democrats stealing power. A few splinter groups will get out of hand but in the grand scheme of things they will hold tight and see if democracy can happen.

    If you signed a phone contract with 3 after having an issue with virgin media and virgin media seized all their offices and shops a few weeks later chanting defund the police would you be happy?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    Back when the Hebdo massacre happened, publications around the world could have helped out by printing the pictures. If you had all major Western media publishing them, it would have made it more difficult to see this as just a Charlie Hebdo thing and moved the target off them somewhat. I understand their fears for their journalists but I think capitulating like that sent the wrong message. That and those cnuts could hardly go after everyone.

    I disagree, Charlie hebdo should never have printed those incendiary pictures


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    The Taliban don't operate in the middle east.

    Technically they do but not under their own banner. Pakistani and Afghani Taliban fighters have operated as part of Iranian proxies such as Liwa Fatemiyon and Liwa Zainebiyoun in Syria.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    He has, but from the Talibans point of view it looks like a violent coup with the democrats stealing power. A few splinter groups will get out of hand but in the grand scheme of things they will hold tight and see if democracy can happen.

    If you signed a phone contract with 3 after having an issue with virgin media and virgin media seized all their offices and shops a few weeks later chanting defund the police would you be happy?

    And for stupidest post of the thread the winner is......

    :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,932 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Obviously the mainstream media are in collusion with muslim extremists to impose sharia law on us unsuspecting westerners. Better look to the ports, you never know what's stirring inside the cargo bay. You take Dun Laoghaire tonight just in case, I'll keep a watchful eye on Rosslare.

    Ahem. OK, here’s what we've got:
    the Rand Corporation Antifa, in conjunction with the saucer people NWO, under the supervision of the reverse vampires lizard people, are forcing our parents patriots to go to bed early be racist in a fiendish plot to eliminate the meal of dinner! brown faces and "different".
    We’re through the looking glass, here, people.

    ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    I suppose if your social media feed is populated by reactionary headbangers who jump on every incident to fill your brain with 'the world is ending' hysterics then it would appear that the mainstream news-media is involved in some 'leftist' conspiracy, or some mad shit like that.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Religion of peace at it again!!1 Wake up sheeple !!!11!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The ould meat cleavers of peace again. It's a price worth paying for kebabs am I right?!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    And for stupidest post of the thread the winner is......

    :pac:


    It's not his fault. It's his phone. He's typing perfectly sensible stuff but the broken phone adds, removes and reorders the words to make the posts look stupid. That kind of malware has been around for ages. It often gets installed with gab/voat/parler/waifu bundle installer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,125 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Diversity incidents don't shock anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    If you signed a phone contract with 3 after having an issue with virgin media and virgin media seized all their offices and shops a few weeks later chanting defund the police would you be happy?

    That's brilliant in fairness. Compete nonsense but hilarious :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭seenitall


    I wonder if this kind of event could have an impact on the final outcome of the current trial.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,657 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    And for stupidest post of the thread the winner is......

    :pac:

    That's an early call in a thread like this. Like giving man of the match in the 10th minute.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    I disagree, Charlie hebdo should never have printed those incendiary pictures


    Well, fcuk that for an opinion. This is Europe. Around 500 years ago, our ancestors started the process of spreading knowledge and slowly shaking off the stranglehold that kings and religion had on free thought. It's been a long process that has gone backwards a few times and played out differently in different countries but for the most part, we've moved past the notion that the absurdities of religious belief are above mockery. Over the course of hundreds of years of mockery, the power of religion has waned. At least in Europe.



    Religion is OK when not taken too seriously but when it is taken seriously, it's a cancer on society and Sunni Islam is in my opinion the worst of them for that. It's not only a personal belief system but a political ideology that its strongest adherents believe should encompass all aspects of life and everyone else's life. It's the kind of intolerance that we can do without.



    I get that there are risks but we can't be in a position where mockery of a particular religion isn't allowed due to the craziness of its adherents. If we can't call a grown man who marries a child a pedo, we're in a bad place. The right to call stupid things stupid is vital to freedom from expression and for that to be infringed because of threats is something that we can't have here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,570 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    I suppose if your social media feed is populated by reactionary headbangers who jump on every incident to fill your brain with 'the world is ending' hysterics then it would appear that the mainstream news-media is involved in some 'leftist' conspiracy, or some mad shit like that.

    Well the media tends to be more left wing than right, I think that's a given.

    But there's no cover up of this story at all. It's not a massive story (nobody is dead.. yet at any rate), but it's well reported. The fact that it is Islamic terrorism is not in dispute either.
    He has, but from the Talibans point of view it looks like a violent coup with the democrats stealing power.

    Ya what?
    I disagree, Charlie hebdo should never have printed those incendiary pictures

    Some people just want to watch the world burn, and making excuses for them is doing the devil's work. The Charlie Hebdo massacre was only one of dozens ISIL inspired attacks in France.

    I suppose the Bataclan theater should not have shown public support for Israel. The Hypercacher kosher supermarket should not have been allowed to have provocative Jewish products. The Toulouse and Montauban shootings was in retaliation for the provocative ban on wearing religious clothing, and also because of the presence of Jews in France. The Nice attack was generally due to the provocative French bombing of ISIL targets. The perpetrator of the Paris bomb plot (who eventually went on to behead a priest in a church in Normandy) was motivated by.. the provocative presence of French people.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    The ould meat cleavers of peace again. It's a price worth paying for kebabs am I right?!

    Someday the Europeans will regret the day they fell for the "You don't need a gun. We're the Govt. We'll protect you." lie.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Well the media tends to be more left wing than right, I think that's a given..

    The corporate media? The media owned by billionaires? The media whose journalists prostitute themselves to corporate power? The corporate, billionaire owned, hack media, is 'left wing'?

    I'm sure you've been well conditioned by reactionary oddballs to come to that conclusion alright.

    The collective bed-wetting the corporate media engages in when Sanders in the US, Corbyn in the UK, or Mary Lou here, get near the levers of power demonstrates perfectly to those of a more thoughtful disposition exactly how 'left wing' the media is.

    Edit: And the idea that the three names above indicate some sort of leftward paradigm shift is absolutely laughable and indicates just how thoroughly defeated 'the left' is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    I disagree, Charlie hebdo should never have printed those incendiary pictures

    Get on your f*cking bike. The only mistake they made was not printing more of them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭bobbyy gee


    I wonder were the smart to print the same cartoons again


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