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Terror incident in Paris

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Four people attacked with a meat cleaver in Paris by the old Charlie Hebdo offices. Sad to see how regular this type of crime has become. Pictures of the suspect are already online along with the bludgeoned cleaver.

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jam_mac_jam

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

Say that to families who had loved ones slaughtered like pigs because of those pictures.

Nobody was slaughtered because of those pictures. The pictures are not to blame.

TheBlackPill

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

Say that to families who had loved ones slaughtered like pigs because of those pictures.

they were not slaughtered because of those pictures. Militant Islam has been slaughtering people since foundation, it brookes no competition. It can not be negotiatied with from a position of weakness/submission. The more one gives in to Islam, the more emboldened it gets, the more carnage it causes.

RandomName2

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

The corporate media? The media owned by billionaires? The media whose journalists prostitute themselves to corporate power? The corporate, billionaire owned, hack media, is 'left wing'?

Predominantly, yes. Or you could describe it as 'liberal' if you like. This doesn't necessarily have a bearing on the authenticity of the journalism, you understand, but it's generally an appropriate description of the political leaning.

What part is hard to understand? Is it the billionaire aspect? The large corporation bit? The same can be said of universities, particularly in America. Is your view similarly that Hardvard, Yale, Stanford, Rutgers are all right wing establishments, because of the plutocrats that run them?

Finally I have an explanation for all the far-right propaganda on Channel 4. It's because they are corporate media owned by billionaires. Thanks Junkyard Tom for your as ever, insightful analysis.

I don't think there's been any paradigm shift to the left. Journalism for many, many years has been more left than right wing.

I don't know why the media was so dead set against Corbyn. But the labour elite were antagonistic to Corbyn, so I'd say that would have a bearing on it. The corporate billionare connection after all. The same thing may well have been true in relation to Sanders - he did not have the backing of the elite within the Democratic party.

Just because someone has left-wing affiliation doesn't necessarily mean that they espouse those values.

And for what it's worth, Mary Lou is a nationalist, not a socialist.

ThewhiteJesus

RandomName2 wrote: »

Well the media tends to be more left wing than right, I think that's a given.

But there's no cover up of this story at all. It's not a massive story (nobody is dead.. yet at any rate), but it's well reported. The fact that it is Islamic terrorism is not in dispute either.

Ya what?

Some people just want to watch the world burn, and making excuses for them is doing the devil's work. The Charlie Hebdo massacre was only one of dozens ISIL inspired attacks in France.

I suppose the Bataclan theater should not have shown public support for Israel. The Hypercacher kosher supermarket should not have been allowed to have provocative Jewish products. The Toulouse and Montauban shootings was in retaliation for the provocative ban on wearing religious clothing, and also because of the presence of Jews in France. The Nice attack was generally due to the provocative French bombing of ISIL targets. The perpetrator of the Paris bomb plot (who eventually went on to behead a priest in a church in Normandy) was motivated by.. the provocative presence of French people.

Say that to families who had loved ones slaughtered like pigs because of those pictures.

TheBlackPill

Pkiernan wrote: »

Who'd have thoughts that the suspects would have been 18 year old immigrants from Pakistan?

Everyday normal people paying the price for left wing guilt complexes.

judging by the photos i would say he is in his mid 20s

Pkiernan

Who'd have thoughts that the suspects would have been 18 year old immigrants from Pakistan?

Everyday normal people paying the price for left wing guilt complexes.

lawred2

GT89 wrote: »

Mainstream media not reporting on this much there's a surprise

Yeah your Twitter feed is so underground maannnn

Patrick2010

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Someday the Europeans will regret the day they fell for the "You don't need a gun. We're the Govt. We'll protect you." lie.

Someday Americans will regret all the mass school shootings due to their belief that citizens needed easy access to guns to protect themselves from their government

TheBlackPill

bobbyy gee wrote: »

I wonder were the smart to print the same cartoons again

They reprinted the cartoons recently to coincide with the trial of the 20 or so muslims who helped the attackers. Even in Belfast at the nadir of the troubles you wouldnt find even one lad that thought killing cartoonists for an English newspaper would be a laudable and moral act.

Mr.Crinklewood

GT89 wrote: »

Mainstream media not reporting on this much there's a surprise

Main news on BBC world news
https://www.bbc.com/news/world

Main news on sky world news
https://news.sky.com/world

4th headline on RTE
https://www.rte.ie/news/world/

Not a mention in the Meath Chronicle,so you could have a point
https://www.meathchronicle.ie/

bobbyy gee

I wonder were the smart to print the same cartoons again

suicide_circus

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

I disagree, Charlie hebdo should never have printed those incendiary pictures

Get on your f*cking bike. The only mistake they made was not printing more of them.

Junkyard Tom

RandomName2 wrote: »

Well the media tends to be more left wing than right, I think that's a given..

The corporate media? The media owned by billionaires? The media whose journalists prostitute themselves to corporate power? The corporate, billionaire owned, hack media, is 'left wing'?

I'm sure you've been well conditioned by reactionary oddballs to come to that conclusion alright.

The collective bed-wetting the corporate media engages in when Sanders in the US, Corbyn in the UK, or Mary Lou here, get near the levers of power demonstrates perfectly to those of a more thoughtful disposition exactly how 'left wing' the media is.

Edit: And the idea that the three names above indicate some sort of leftward paradigm shift is absolutely laughable and indicates just how thoroughly defeated 'the left' is.

Mr. Karate

Deleted User wrote: »

The ould meat cleavers of peace again. It's a price worth paying for kebabs am I right?!

Someday the Europeans will regret the day they fell for the "You don't need a gun. We're the Govt. We'll protect you." lie.

RandomName2

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

I suppose if your social media feed is populated by reactionary headbangers who jump on every incident to fill your brain with 'the world is ending' hysterics then it would appear that the mainstream news-media is involved in some 'leftist' conspiracy, or some mad shit like that.

Well the media tends to be more left wing than right, I think that's a given.

But there's no cover up of this story at all. It's not a massive story (nobody is dead.. yet at any rate), but it's well reported. The fact that it is Islamic terrorism is not in dispute either.

Man with broke phone wrote: »

He has, but from the Talibans point of view it looks like a violent coup with the democrats stealing power.

Ya what?

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

I disagree, Charlie hebdo should never have printed those incendiary pictures

Some people just want to watch the world burn, and making excuses for them is doing the devil's work. The Charlie Hebdo massacre was only one of dozens ISIL inspired attacks in France.

I suppose the Bataclan theater should not have shown public support for Israel. The Hypercacher kosher supermarket should not have been allowed to have provocative Jewish products. The Toulouse and Montauban shootings was in retaliation for the provocative ban on wearing religious clothing, and also because of the presence of Jews in France. The Nice attack was generally due to the provocative French bombing of ISIL targets. The perpetrator of the Paris bomb plot (who eventually went on to behead a priest in a church in Normandy) was motivated by.. the provocative presence of French people.

mcmoustache

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

I disagree, Charlie hebdo should never have printed those incendiary pictures

Well, fcuk that for an opinion. This is Europe. Around 500 years ago, our ancestors started the process of spreading knowledge and slowly shaking off the stranglehold that kings and religion had on free thought. It's been a long process that has gone backwards a few times and played out differently in different countries but for the most part, we've moved past the notion that the absurdities of religious belief are above mockery. Over the course of hundreds of years of mockery, the power of religion has waned. At least in Europe.

Religion is OK when not taken too seriously but when it is taken seriously, it's a cancer on society and Sunni Islam is in my opinion the worst of them for that. It's not only a personal belief system but a political ideology that its strongest adherents believe should encompass all aspects of life and everyone else's life. It's the kind of intolerance that we can do without.

I get that there are risks but we can't be in a position where mockery of a particular religion isn't allowed due to the craziness of its adherents. If we can't call a grown man who marries a child a pedo, we're in a bad place. The right to call stupid things stupid is vital to freedom from expression and for that to be infringed because of threats is something that we can't have here.

seenitall

I wonder if this kind of event could have an impact on the final outcome of the current trial.

namloc1980

Man with broke phone wrote: »

If you signed a phone contract with 3 after having an issue with virgin media and virgin media seized all their offices and shops a few weeks later chanting defund the police would you be happy?

That's brilliant in fairness. Compete nonsense but hilarious

Danzy

Diversity incidents don't shock anymore.

mcmoustache

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

And for stupidest post of the thread the winner is......

:pac:

It's not his fault. It's his phone. He's typing perfectly sensible stuff but the broken phone adds, removes and reorders the words to make the posts look stupid. That kind of malware has been around for ages. It often gets installed with gab/voat/parler/waifu bundle installer.

[Deleted User]

The ould meat cleavers of peace again. It's a price worth paying for kebabs am I right?!

yerwanthere123

Religion of peace at it again!!1 Wake up sheeple !!!11!

Junkyard Tom

I suppose if your social media feed is populated by reactionary headbangers who jump on every incident to fill your brain with 'the world is ending' hysterics then it would appear that the mainstream news-media is involved in some 'leftist' conspiracy, or some mad shit like that.

banie01

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Obviously the mainstream media are in collusion with muslim extremists to impose sharia law on us unsuspecting westerners. Better look to the ports, you never know what's stirring inside the cargo bay. You take Dun Laoghaire tonight just in case, I'll keep a watchful eye on Rosslare.

Ahem. OK, here’s what we've got:
the Rand Corporation Antifa, in conjunction with the saucer people NWO, under the supervision of the reverse vampires lizard people, are forcing our parents patriots to go to bed early be racist in a fiendish plot to eliminate the meal of dinner! brown faces and "different".
We’re through the looking glass, here, people.

Timberrrrrrrr

Man with broke phone wrote: »

He has, but from the Talibans point of view it looks like a violent coup with the democrats stealing power. A few splinter groups will get out of hand but in the grand scheme of things they will hold tight and see if democracy can happen.

If you signed a phone contract with 3 after having an issue with virgin media and virgin media seized all their offices and shops a few weeks later chanting defund the police would you be happy?

And for stupidest post of the thread the winner is......

:pac:

Signore Fancy Pants

artanevilla wrote: »

The Taliban don't operate in the middle east.

Technically they do but not under their own banner. Pakistani and Afghani Taliban fighters have operated as part of Iranian proxies such as Liwa Fatemiyon and Liwa Zainebiyoun in Syria.

ThewhiteJesus

mcmoustache wrote: »

Back when the Hebdo massacre happened, publications around the world could have helped out by printing the pictures. If you had all major Western media publishing them, it would have made it more difficult to see this as just a Charlie Hebdo thing and moved the target off them somewhat. I understand their fears for their journalists but I think capitulating like that sent the wrong message. That and those cnuts could hardly go after everyone.

I disagree, Charlie hebdo should never have printed those incendiary pictures

Man with broke phone

namloc1980 wrote: »

Hang on a second. Didn't Trump proclaim he had a peace deal with the Taliban? Yes he did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AOLEAm1Si0

Not much of a deal if you are suggesting it's falling apart already. So much for the master dealmaker and his "art of the deal".

He has, but from the Talibans point of view it looks like a violent coup with the democrats stealing power. A few splinter groups will get out of hand but in the grand scheme of things they will hold tight and see if democracy can happen.

If you signed a phone contract with 3 after having an issue with virgin media and virgin media seized all their offices and shops a few weeks later chanting defund the police would you be happy?

artanevilla

The Taliban don't operate in the middle east.

Deebles McBeebles

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Brace yourself from being scared out in crowded events or on the bus to work for a while.

I tend to stay away from crowded events and buses anyway with this whole virus thing.