Kia Niro EV

chewed · 16-04-2021 10:04am

darrenheaphy wrote: »

That's true, I'd be super nervous if it involved anything beyond clipping a speaker out and another in

Edit: Yeah, looks like they do

Me too. I saw a few videos before of people swapping out speaers, and as soon as they mention "soldering iron", that's me gone!

chewed · 16-04-2021 11:34am

championc wrote: »

Upgrading the speakers does not effect the vehicle mechanics.

I replaced mine with JBL Stage 2 603C's. A world of difference. I still haven't managed to replace the dashboard speakers because I cannot figure out how to remove the current grills.

Hey championc, did you also update the amplifier, or just the speakers? Did you do all 4 doors?

championc · 16-04-2021 6:41pm

chewed wrote: »

I'd love to do it, but would rather get an expert to put them in. Do the likes of Halfords provide this service?

Are you serious ? Bloody simple. I needed to buy 6.5" spacers for the new speakers since the old ones were stuck to / part of spacers

darrenheaphy · 16-04-2021 10:51pm

championc wrote: »

Are you serious ? Bloody simple. I needed to buy 6.5" spacers for the new speakers since the old ones were stuck to / part of spacers

Put the old ones back in, whip out your phone and record you doing it all over again

chewed · 17-04-2021 8:55am

championc wrote: »

Are you serious ? Bloody simple. I needed to buy 6.5" spacers for the new speakers since the old ones were stuck to / part of spacers

Did you swap out the speakers on each 4 doors? Did you have to change the amp?

championc · 17-04-2021 9:41am

chewed wrote: »

Did you swap out the speakers on each 4 doors? Did you have to change the amp?

I simply swapped the speakers. The sets I bought had tweeters and crossovers. You just have to snip off the original connector and connect the wires to the crossover, then wire the speaker into the crossover onto the relevant terminals.

I mounted the tweeter just above the speaker and used a glue gun to hold it in place. I'll open it up later and take a picture of it.

I haven't done the front door tweeter as I felt I should possibly install them up in the front corners of the dashboard under the grills, but I haven't been able to remove the grills

17-04-2021 12:16pm

championc wrote: »

I haven't done the front door tweeter as I felt I should possibly install them up in the front corners of the dashboard under the grills, but I haven't been able to remove the grills

This any use ?

http://www.kniro.net/speaker_repair_procedures-1661.html

Just make sure you get the speaker wire polarity spot on or the speakers will be out of phase and you will think your new speakers sound absolutely crap.

Old diesel · 17-04-2021 8:52pm

I thought I saw an article recently that the Niro WONT be an EV in its next generation but instead an EV version of some kind of Sportage replacement is on cards.

17-04-2021 9:14pm

Old diesel wrote: »

I thought I saw an article recently that the Niro WONT be an EV in its next generation but instead an EV version of some kind of Sportage replacement is on cards.

I've read conflicting reports that it will get another update for 2022 but others say that it won't so hard to know.

chewed · 18-04-2021 4:40pm

new software update (EUR.S5W_L.001.001.210303) available with some new features. Still no full screen Android Auto, but you can use the right panel (where AA logo is) to display and scroll through the normal menu options.

The one thing I noticed is that it now accepts eircodes in the Navigation search, which is a huge bonus.

Some of the other screens are not great, including the Radio, which looks terrible in my view.

graememk · 18-04-2021 5:05pm

chewed wrote: »

new software update (EUR.S5W_L.001.001.210303) available with some new features. Still no full screen Android Auto, but you can use the right panel (where AA logo is) to display and scroll through the normal menu options.

The one thing I noticed is that it now accepts eircodes in the Navigation search, which is a huge bonus.

Some of the other screens are not great, including the Radio, which looks terrible in my view.

Update procedure if anyone wants it.

Alun · 18-04-2021 6:51pm

I've just installed that update, over the previous purple one. Hadn't noticed that it now accepts eircodes, must check that out later.

However, with both this and the previous version, my speed limit display is messed up. It displays --- instead of the speed limit on a lot of roads, sometimes it changes from --- to the correct limit in different sections of the same road, and on one road it reads --- in one direction and 50 km/h in the other!! Very odd. Anyone else seeing this?

Barney224 · 19-04-2021 10:57am

Alun wrote: »

I've just installed that update, over the previous purple one. Hadn't noticed that it now accepts eircodes, must check that out later.

However, with both this and the previous version, my speed limit display is messed up. It displays --- instead of the speed limit on a lot of roads, sometimes it changes from --- to the correct limit in different sections of the same road, and on one road it reads --- in one direction and 50 km/h in the other!! Very odd. Anyone else seeing this?

Are you talking about the speed limit diaply on the Maps? Or on the Instrument Cluster? I could be wrong, but as far as I'm aware, these updates only affect the infotainment screen.

Alun · 19-04-2021 10:59am

Barney224 wrote: »

Are you talking about the speed limit diaply on the Maps? Or on the Instrument Cluster? I could be wrong, but as far as I'm aware, these updates only affect the infotainment screen.

Both. They both display exactly the same data, but I assume the data comes from the map data in the infotainment unit.

Alun · 19-04-2021 11:01am

Alun wrote: »

I've just installed that update, over the previous purple one. Hadn't noticed that it now accepts eircodes, must check that out later.

Yes, it works! Well spotted. It doesn't do any kind of auto-completion, like it does for addresses, as you're typing it in so it doesn't look like it's working, but it does.

chewed · 19-04-2021 12:49pm

Alun wrote: »

Yes, it works! Well spotted. It doesn't do any kind of auto-completion, like it does for addresses, as you're typing it in so it doesn't look like it's working, but it does.

Even though I don't like a lot of the updates, it's definitely worth it to have the eircodes working in the navigation.

Barney224 · 19-04-2021 4:41pm

championc wrote: »

I simply swapped the speakers. The sets I bought had tweeters and crossovers. You just have to snip off the original connector and connect the wires to the crossover, then wire the speaker into the crossover onto the relevant terminals.

I mounted the tweeter just above the speaker and used a glue gun to hold it in place. I'll open it up later and take a picture of it.

I haven't done the front door tweeter as I felt I should possibly install them up in the front corners of the dashboard under the grills, but I haven't been able to remove the grills

Did you have to add or replace a subwoofer?

championc · 19-04-2021 7:48pm

Barney224 wrote: »

Did you have to add or replace a subwoofer?

There's no subwoofer on the non-JBL factory setup. So all I've done is replace the door speakers front and back

Barney224 · 20-04-2021 8:09am

championc wrote: »

There's no subwoofer on the non-JBL factory setup. So all I've done is replace the door speakers front and back

OK thanks. I didn't think just changing the speakers would have much of an improvement, without a bit of extra bass.

championc · 20-04-2021 8:32am

Barney224 wrote: »

OK thanks. I didn't think just changing the speakers would have much of an improvement, without a bit of extra bass.

There's far more clarity / sharpness / preciseness in the music and even dialogue. And I am no audiogeek. I'm sure a real one would be able to explain the technicalities better. But the cones are much deeper and the magnets huge.

JPLee · 22-04-2021 10:43pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Maybe what the 2022 E-Niro might look like ?

https://www.carscoops.com/2021/02/2022-kia-niro-bold-new-looks-powertrains-everything-else-we-know/

I think the above model is the next generation of Niro. If so, it will be available in 2022 in Ireland.

championc · 22-04-2021 11:09pm

JPLee wrote: »

I think the above model is the next generation of Niro. If so, it will be available in 2022 in Ireland.

But I don't think that there will be an e-Niro

fafy · 23-04-2021 4:21pm

championc wrote: »

But I don't think that there will be an e-Niro

I test drove an E Niro this morning, i asked about the new facelift, and the dealer manager, said he was aware of it, but did not think it would be on the road this year.

Alun · 23-04-2021 4:31pm

championc wrote: »

But I don't think that there will be an e-Niro

Yes, given the recent announcement of the EV6, I'd assumed that future EV's would be called EV1, EV2 ... EV5 etc.

fitz213 · 25-04-2021 6:58pm

Hi

Current Ioniq driver. Looking seriously at the eNiro to get from ~200km to ~400km range for greater flexibility and also I think 200km range cars will depreciate faster. Two questions:
1. Is there any difference between the second hand 2020 models for sale and the 2021 new?
2. Has anyone used a bike rack on an eNiro on motorway and how much of a battery drag is that?

Thanks in advance!

JohnC. · 25-04-2021 7:11pm

There was no update between 2020 and 2021. That's assuming the second hand ones are the actual 2020 model and not ones from 2019 which were still being sold into 2020.

No idea about the bike rack question.

DrPhilG · 25-04-2021 7:19pm

What is on the newer 2020 model that isn't in the first edition? Bigger screen, anything else of note?

AMKC · 25-04-2021 7:20pm

JPLee ]I think the above model is the next generation of Niro. If so, it will be available in 2022
Very classy looking Niro. If the new Sportage which is also due next year also looks something like that then that's good. If it looks like what a lot of other sites are saying then that's bad

championc · 25-04-2021 8:08pm

DrPhilG wrote: »

What is on the newer 2020 model that isn't in the first edition? Bigger screen, anything else of note?

Main thing is the 11kW AC charger. Also has rear heated seats, and the rear light cluster changed to the present one

fitz213 wrote: »

2. Has anyone used a bike rack on an eNiro on motorway and how much of a battery drag is that ?

The only type of bike rack that you can fit is the type that clips onto the rear, because you cannot connect a towbar to eNiro's (insurance restriction)

Silent Running · 26-04-2021 7:49am

DrPhilG wrote: »

What is on the newer 2020 model that isn't in the first edition? Bigger screen, anything else of note?

There's the app and maybe front parking sensors. An owner can comment on the sensors, but the FE didn't have them.

graememk · 26-04-2021 8:08am

Silent Running wrote: »

There's the app and maybe front parking sensors. An owner can comment on the sensors, but the FE didn't have them.

Yep have app and front sensors,

Rear heated seats

11kw ac charger.

Oh unrelated, but the car does go into a deep sleep, well for charging control anyway

Eg park car on Friday but plug it in on a Sunday evening, the scheduled charge doesn't start until you "wake" the car up either through the app or unlocking it.

Happens even if charging from solar:
Have it charging on Saturday, from solar with all schedules off, I have to wake it up again on Sunday to resume charging. (I usually just press refresh on the app).

DrPhilG · 26-04-2021 8:59am

Thanks.

Whats a good price for a year old second edition?

graememk · 26-04-2021 3:16pm

DrPhilG wrote: »

Thanks.

Whats a good price for a year old second edition?

2019 models are going for 34ish k so prob around that

chewed · 26-04-2021 3:39pm

graememk wrote: »

2019 models are going for 34ish k so prob around that

According to DoneDeal, 2019 models are around €30k.

Silent Running · 26-04-2021 5:12pm

chewed wrote: »

According to DoneDeal, 2019 models are around €30k.

There are a couple of 39kWh Niros around that seem hard to shift. They're around €30K alright.

The 192, 64kWh Niro that I traded in at the end of February was snapped up at €34K, but it was spotless and still had the new car smell.

amdaley28 · 26-04-2021 5:51pm

Hi Everyone.

Has anyone fitted a rear bumper protector to their Niro ?
The rear bumper could easily be damaged putting stuff into & out of the boot.
I've seen these online but know nothing about them ?
https://www.winparts.ie/body-panels-mouldings/bumper-grille/rear-bumper-protection/c159/abs-rear-bumper-protector-kia-niro-9-2016-black/p1062286.html

Silent Running · 26-04-2021 6:28pm

amdaley28 wrote: »

Hi Everyone.

Has anyone fitted a rear bumper protector to their Niro ?
The rear bumper could easily be damaged putting stuff into & out of the boot.
I've seen these online but know nothing about them ?
https://www.winparts.ie/body-panels-mouldings/bumper-grille/rear-bumper-protection/c159/abs-rear-bumper-protector-kia-niro-9-2016-black/p1062286.html

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/383961046412

I put this on the ID.3, I had one from there on the e-Niro and on the Ioniq before that. Cheap as chips and avoids scratching, virtually invisible too. Easy to fit.

He has them for most cars.

Edit... He doesn't seem to have the Niro one at the moment.

chewed · 26-04-2021 7:48pm

Silent Running wrote: »

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/383961046412

I put this on the ID.3, I had one from there on the e-Niro and on the Ioniq before that. Cheap as chips and avoids scratching, virtually invisible too. Easy to fit.

He has them for most cars.

Edit... He doesn't seem to have the Niro one at the moment.

Are they easy to remove? I'd rather this transparent one over the ugly grey strip

Silent Running · 26-04-2021 8:07pm

chewed wrote: »

Are they easy to remove? I'd rather this transparent one over the ugly grey strip

I've never tried to remove one, but I would expect them to be the same as any vinyl sticker. A bit of heat and it should peel off. Any residue would be easily removed with white spirit or similar.

fafy · 27-04-2021 8:02am

graememk wrote: »

2019 models are going for 34ish k so prob around that

I was quoted on Monday, 37.5k for a brand new E Niro, including metallic paint, straight sale, choice of colours and free charger. An extra 3.5 k for a brand new one rather than 2 years old seems to make sense.

championc · 27-04-2021 8:22am

fafy wrote: »

I was quoted on Monday, 37.5k for a brand new E Niro, including metallic paint, straight sale, choice of colours and free charger. An extra 3.5 k for a brand new one rather than 2 years old seems to make sense.

Wow, we were lucky to get a free pen from the stealers. You are the first person to ever mention being offered one with any money off - and a sizable chunk at that. Where was it ?

the_amazing_raisin · 27-04-2021 9:53am

fafy wrote: »

I was quoted on Monday, 37.5k for a brand new E Niro, including metallic paint, straight sale, choice of colours and free charger. An extra 3.5 k for a brand new one rather than 2 years old seems to make sense.

Was it the 64kWh version? If so then that's a great deal, I was quoted €42k before Christmas

DrPhilG · 27-04-2021 10:59am

fafy wrote: »

I was quoted on Monday, 37.5k for a brand new E Niro, including metallic paint, straight sale, choice of colours and free charger. An extra 3.5 k for a brand new one rather than 2 years old seems to make sense.

PM sent. If that's the 64kWh version I'm very interested.

BENJIspendlove · 27-04-2021 4:43pm

championc wrote: »

Main thing is the 11kW AC charger. Also has rear heated seats, and the rear light cluster changed to the present one

The only type of bike rack that you can fit is the type that clips onto the rear, because you cannot connect a towbar to eNiro's (insurance restriction)

Is the rear heated seats definite? The dealer did mention to me it had them, but I cant find any documention to say the eniro does, only front seats.

chewed · 27-04-2021 5:25pm

BENJIspendlove wrote: »

Is the rear heated seats definite? The dealer did mention to me it had them, but I cant find any documention to say the eniro does, only front seats.

Yes, on the 20/21 models. I have them in my car.

BENJIspendlove · 27-04-2021 6:07pm

chewed wrote: »

Yes, on the 20/21 models. I have them in my car.

Ah cool, wish I could find some updated documents to show new features.

I also saw a dealer video in ireland mention led headlamps, but also can't find any clarification anywhere regarding this

gar · 27-04-2021 7:36pm

Any examples of real world ranges from people here?
Winter and summer please

graememk · 27-04-2021 8:04pm

gar wrote: »

Any examples of real world ranges from people here?
Winter and summer please

Our GOM is fairly on point.

Daily commute is 80km round trip, at 100%, N roads, no moterway, little traffic
GOM Summer : 420, winter 380ish

Occasional trip of 265km, back home with 38% recently, sometimes low 30's in winter.

Longest trip was 300 odd km bit of everything, landed back with just under 20% (80km on the GOM).

Baoithin66 · 27-04-2021 10:23pm

Just got delivery of E Niro-is the frunk worthwhile? any idea on price??

Silent Running · 28-04-2021 8:10am

Baoithin66 wrote: »

Just got delivery of E Niro-is the frunk worthwhile? any idea on price??

€210 for the frunk. They take a load of stuff out of the boot. I had some tools, the jack, the charge cable and some safety gear in mine, and still had plenty of room left over.

I happen to have a frunk and a spacesaver spare wheel and tools that I can do a good deal on.

PM if interested.

Kia Niro EV

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