New York Giants Thread

So S Xavier McKinney at No 36

Can't really complain

It's a need

Not a bad draft at all so far, really.

Would have liked an edge rusher, but when you have as many needs as we do and a young QB and RB, it makes sense to double down on OL if you think the value is there.

Doubt we'll go centre, even if Biadasz is there at our pick now. We have Cam Flemming and Peart as backup tackles and Gates to cover inside, and potentially challenge for centre spot.

We'll probably resign Halapio too, if I had to guess.

We've a bunch of 7th rounders I wouldn't mind seeing packaged together to get a higher pick today, but might be a difficult sell.

So we went with Darnay Holmes CB UCLA

Another CB

Seems very small at 5'9 3/4

wawaman wrote: »

Very good on special teams apparently. Would be close to judges heart

Hmmm maybe

Still think we have bigger issues than ST

No pass rush is going to be a big big issue

Rest of the draft

Cam Brown OLB Penn State

Carter Coughin OLB Minnesota

TJ Brunson ILB South Carolina

Chris Williamson CB Minnesota

Tae Crowder ILB Georgia

All defence

wawaman wrote: »

DeAndre Baker got himself arrested for armed robbery and aggravated assault. I would think that is the end of him as a giant, especially if “culture” is as big a thing as DG makes out

https://www.nfl.com/news/warrant-out-for-baker-dunbar-on-robbery-charges

Absolutely

He's looking at a long tíme in jail

Gettleman and the scouting department definitely seem to have overlooked character issues

We can't afford to wiff on a first rounder

More on Deandre Baker from NY Daily News, today...Its a fascinating read

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ny-giants-deandre-baker-arrest-20200908-oz3q7vgyyncf7bsjsz2oigtyre-story.html

"The police documents, which include victims and witness testimonies and information obtained from search warrants by cops as well as surveillance and body cam footage and detective notes, allege the now-former Giants cornerback suffered a huge loss in a high-stakes dice game on May 12, tried to steal it back that night — and returned with a firearm the next evening to rob the game’s big winner and three others at a Miramar, Fla., gambling party."

" And Victim 4 acknowledges hearing there was “cheating” going on in the May 12 game at the Quality Inn....Victim 4 says there were rumors Baker believed he’d been cheated out of $60,000 or $70,000 the night before at the Quality Inn, while Victim 3 says there “probably” were loaded dice used in the May 12 hotel room incident. Victim 4 said the players “came back this time ready” for any more cheating — with Baker and Shy both pulling guns."


"Baker “put a gun in the old man’s face” and “took all his money out of his hand,” recounted Victim 3. The “old man” surrendered $600 in cash and Baker grabbed a watch from his wrist, stuffing the stolen property in his pants pocket.

Victim 3 says Victim 1 protested there was no way he could have been cheating because he’d just lost $40,000 himself. And Victim 1 recounts that Dunbar was directing people on what to take from the others at the card game."

“When DeAndre Baker pulled out that gun, he looked like one of the guys in the projects that I see,” recounted Victim 3. “It was like he was playing in a movie or something ... We were — (in) our minds … we’re blown away from the start. Like this fool really pulled out a gun on us. And we’re the gangsters, you know what I mean?”

Beefy78 wrote: »

I feel a lot better about the Giants and where they are headed after the Steelers game than I was before. I loved the hustle on Defense and I liked a lot of what we were doing on Offense. We're not a good team, and that's fine. This is a journey. But I think we'll get there.

Can't believe it's another year where I've been suckered in by the off-season O Line 'improvements'....

I have watched most of the game at this stage and certainly, the left side of O-Line I thought did a good job. Saquon needs to improve on his blitz pick up. The one in the 4th quarter was definitely down to him.

For the left side, Fleming is a liability and we need to get him help via a TE. He had a few occasions where he had to cover 2 guys.

On the running game, I think the schemes here were questionable. Too often we left Dupree unblocked or there should have been a pulling TE which didn't exist and he met Saquon in the back field.

I isolated on Thomas for a good part of the game and was impressed. He dealt 1-on-1 with Dupree well for the most part. His run blocking was also positive and most of the failures occurred via the left side and Fleming in particular.

I would certainly concur with Beefy that there was more positives than negatives. The D line as we have little depth seem to run out of puff. Most of Snell's runs came in the 4th quarter and more game time will improve that. I thought that Williams and Lawrence played really well. Lorenzo Carter seems to have taken a step up and is continuing what was reported in camp over the summer. Martinez is ad advertising but the back end needs work. Hopefully more playing time or schemes can help them. But the overall Defensive play was far superior to last few seasons.

It could actually have been a whole lot different but for the brain fade that Danny Dimes suffered on that goal line play. A score there and who knows? But alas that is the beauty of sport.

Its official now

Barkley done for the Season

Torn ACL

Not been dramatic but if we don't win tonight then ive no idea where our 1st win is gonna be on that schedule

Gettleman has to go.. Ownership have to see that or they just don't care about the team progressing at all

What is it with Jones turning over the ball??

Better performance than the shambles last week

Still another loss though

Defence overall was decent

Offence not so much even though it was nice to see some run game

Jones really needs to learn not to stare down receivers. I'm not sure if he can though

What a way to lose

Great to get a win and avoid 0-16

We really make things hard for ourselves

I just knew they would score a TD in the final drive

Thankfully for once we stopped a 2 pt conversion

That INT from Jones is maddening even if I think it should have been overturned on replay

He learnt nothing from the Pittsburgh interception

Would be great to beat Philly on Thursday but I just can't see it

Going to be a long night if that first Eagles drive is anything to go by

Getting manhandled and Wentz has all day to throw

Well done D

Big INT