Nike sponsoring sub-2 hour marathon attempt

Itziger · 12-10-2019 8:24am

I haven't seen him take fluids. Must be when I click on some other tab......

EDIT: Taken some now.

I have a few little doubts.... I'm thinking 2.00.xx

G1032 · 12-10-2019 8:25am

Folks
Will this count as an official world record of they pull it off?

djemba djemba · 12-10-2019 8:29am

G1032 wrote: »

Folks
Will this count as an official world record of they pull it off?

No it won't.

G1032 · 12-10-2019 8:29am

Itziger wrote: »

I haven't seen him take fluids. Must be when I click on some other tab......

He's taking on fluid and gels. Gels taped to the bottles he's getting

Unknownability · 12-10-2019 8:38am

Cartman78 wrote: »

On target after 18k....all the pacing team switches have been flawless so far

When they switched to team 7 he seemed to take a bit of a stumble.

walshb · 12-10-2019 8:44am

On Eurosport for anyone looking...

CPTM · 12-10-2019 8:45am

djemba djemba wrote: »

No it won't.

So, and I'm not saying this is the case, but hypothetically he could be on a cocktail of performance enhancing drugs or are they doing this with proof he's not on them?

12-10-2019 8:58am

CPTM wrote: »

So, and I'm not saying this is the case, but hypothetically he could be on a cocktail of performance enhancing drugs or are they doing this with proof he's not on them?

There are drugs that are only banned "in-competition", so technically yes, he could be on those during this race, but he could use those during his regular training anyway. If he uses any "prohibited at all times" substances, he's running the same risk that he does at any other time

nannerby · 12-10-2019 8:59am

The guy is an animal he looks so relaxed.

walshb · 12-10-2019 9:00am

Kipchoge’s running form is beautiful. Upper body movement so fluid..

ewc78 · 12-10-2019 9:01am

Just a Park Run to go!

nannerby · 12-10-2019 9:02am

The pacing is perfect.

walshb · 12-10-2019 9:03am

Can’t afford any reduction in pace really. Very close to 2 hours..

CiarraiAbu2 · 12-10-2019 9:11am

2.50 per km for the last 37, is just robotic.

Pacing Mule · 12-10-2019 9:13am

Unfukcinreal running.

walshb · 12-10-2019 9:13am

Done!

nannerby · 12-10-2019 9:14am

jesus how strong is he.

walshb · 12-10-2019 9:15am

Not a bother on him....

Itziger · 12-10-2019 9:18am

Words fail me.

walshb · 12-10-2019 9:19am

Next: let’s get Bekele and Kipchoge in the same race...same conditions as this..

2smiggy · 12-10-2019 9:19am

Unreal to watch. Delighted for him. The work that went into it!!!

ultrawoman · 12-10-2019 9:20am

Was a joy to watch!!!

KSU · 12-10-2019 9:22am

walshb wrote: »

Next: let’s get Bekele and Kipchoge in the same race...same conditions as this..

There is only one man that has ever beaten kipchoge in a marathon and he is not Bekele. Fine performance in Berlin but still needs to prove he can do it under pressure (in the marathon of course other distances there is no denying his credentials)

Working class heroes · 12-10-2019 9:22am

Should have pushed it a bit more, could have gone sub 1:59:D

Seriously glad I watched that. The poor dog was wondering why I was shouting at my phone. Wonderful stuff!!

walshb · 12-10-2019 9:22am

As much as I enjoyed it, not quite the Bannister effect. Appeared all too easy...

I wanted him at 1.59:59, and then collapsing, rush of medics, oxygen and off to oispideal to recover....you know, real drama!!!

walshb · 12-10-2019 9:23am

KSU wrote: »

There is only one man that has ever beaten kipchoge in a marathon and he is not Bekele. Fine performance in Berlin but still needs to prove he can do it under pressure (in the marathon of course other distances there is no denying his credentials)

I know. But Bekele is 2 seconds off the official WR I think..

CPTM · 12-10-2019 9:25am

Sub 1:30hr is where it's really at though :P

Fair play to lad, phenomenal.

walshb · 12-10-2019 9:26am

CPTM wrote: »

Sub 1:30hr is where it's really at though :P

The elites!

theoneeyedman · 12-10-2019 9:26am

The saddest part of the doping in Athletics and sport in general is that the likes of this morning are tainted by the antics of Salazar, Nike, and all of the dopers involved in the sport.
Comparing it to walking on the moon is just nonsense.

KSU · 12-10-2019 9:28am

walshb wrote: »

I know. But Bekele is 2 seconds off the official WR I think..

Yes but Bekele has DNFed every time he has had to run against top quality talent or had pressure to run a fast time j hope the reports of him changing his approach are true and he becomes a consistent world class marathon performer till then I still have my reservations

bucketybuck · 12-10-2019 9:29am

Delighted to watch that this morning. I can remember reading articles doubting that sub 2 hours would ever be physically possible, so I don't much care about the help and support, he physically did it in under 2 hours and now we know for certain that it can be done.

KSU · 12-10-2019 9:30am

theoneeyedman wrote: »

The saddest part of the doping in Athletics and sport in general is that the likes of this morning are tainted by the antics of Salazar, Nike, and all of the dopers involved in the sport.
Comparing it to walking on the moon is just nonsense.

Hate to burst your bubble but doping has been around in sport for over 100 years.

Take it for what it is a great spectacle

Riva10 · 12-10-2019 9:40am

CPTM wrote: »

So, and I'm not saying this is the case, but hypothetically he could be on a cocktail of performance enhancing drugs or are they doing this with proof he's not on them?

Did'nt take long for the Begrudgers to start. :mad:

4Ad · 12-10-2019 9:44am

Staring into the phone in a hostel in Seville trying to explain it to an Australian, he didnt really care..I did, savage running.
Well done Kippa.

KSU · 12-10-2019 9:45am

28064212 wrote: »

There are drugs that are only banned "in-competition", so technically yes, he could be on those during this race, but he could use those during his regular training anyway. If he uses any "prohibited at all times" substances, he's running the same risk that he does at any other time

+1 on this people think because it’s not sanctioned race he is exempt from testing. He is not he still has to carry out same testing as all other athletes and his blood passport is updated so he can’t just take a cocktail for this particular race the only test he doesn’t get is one to ratify WR as he did in Berlin last year however given his high profile he may well be tested by WADA anyway as a random test.

Very few athletes fail on in competition testing these days (if you do it’s like failing an iq test) and to best of my knowledge last time it happened was prior to out of competition testing (Ben Johnson’s Olympic win)

Marty Bird · 12-10-2019 10:06am

That was an unbelievable watch. He looked so strong throughout and really relaxed. No bother sprinting back down the finish line.

average_runner · 12-10-2019 10:20am

adrian522 wrote: »

average_runner wrote: »

Bekele wouldn't of ran Berlin if Kipchoge was there.

Of course he would, why wouldn't he?

Because Berlin only has one superstar per year usually.

YFlyer · 12-10-2019 10:40am

28064212 wrote: »

There are drugs that are only banned "in-competition", so technically yes, he could be on those during this race, but he could use those during his regular training anyway. If he uses any "prohibited at all times" substances, he's running the same risk that he does at any other time

What drugs are those?

KSU · 12-10-2019 10:42am

YFlyer wrote: »

What drugs are those?

Mostly stimulants, full list is available with WADA but one of them was what Johan Blake was done for and a number of others which were found to be contained in an energy drink on sale in the stadium at the Jamaican championships

YFlyer · 12-10-2019 10:47am

KSU wrote: »

Mostly stimulants, full list is available with WADA but one of them was what Johan Blake was done for and a number of others which were found to be contained in an energy drink on sale in the stadium at the Jamaican championships

Thanks. Didn't realise that some could be taken out of competition.

Esse85 · 12-10-2019 11:14am

Will many more athletes break the 2hr mark now seen as they've witnessed it can be done?

CPTM · 12-10-2019 11:25am

Riva10 wrote: »

Did'nt take long for the Begrudgers to start. :mad:

Oh give over. There is nothing begrudging about a question about the rules involved. If I was begrudging I would have phrased it completely differently. And for the record, even with all the drugs in the world, sub 2hrs is still phenomenal for a human to achieve. Sorry for the abruptness here but it was a normal question saying as he isn't participating in a real competition. It's like some people want to live in a lovely world where people run these times on fresh fruit and veg and any distraction from that dreamworld makes them angry.

SlowBlowin · 12-10-2019 11:30am

Esse85 wrote: »

Will many more athletes break the 2hr mark now seen as they've witnessed it can be done?

Yes.

Thats whats happen previously with every other "milestone".

KSU · 12-10-2019 11:43am

Esse85 wrote: »

Will many more athletes break the 2hr mark now seen as they've witnessed it can be done?

Only other person close is Bekele and without the exhibition rules we are still close to 2 min off today

Guy:Incognito · 12-10-2019 12:00pm

Are we ever going to see anyone in any running event just saying "**** it, I'm taking all the drugs and seeing how fast I can go" .outwardly I mean. Up front about it.

Obviously wont be officially sanctioned or wr eligible but as a spectacle I'm sure theres a market for it. Dope the crap out of themselves and see how low they can get times.

KSU · 12-10-2019 12:04pm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Are we ever going to see anyone in any running event just saying "**** it, I'm taking all the drugs and seeing how fast I can go" .outwardly I mean. Up front about it.

Obviously wont be officially sanctioned or wr eligible but as a spectacle I'm sure theres a market for it. Dope the crap out of themselves and see how low they can get times.

As close as you will see

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX-FWSEmh8Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BspQP9gJAeU

(no insinuation of drugs I promise

)

healy1835 · 12-10-2019 12:08pm

KSU wrote: »

There is only one man that has ever beaten kipchoge in a marathon and he is not Bekele. Fine performance in Berlin but still needs to prove he can do it under pressure (in the marathon of course other distances there is no denying his credentials)

Speaking of.....is Kipsang done? I would have had him and Bekele both having their best days behind them prior to Berlin.

Krusty_Clown · 12-10-2019 12:12pm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Are we ever going to see anyone in any running event just saying "**** it, I'm taking all the drugs and seeing how fast I can go" .outwardly I mean. Up front about it.

If they're up front about it, they won't get into any event. Immediate ban. It would have to be some kind of non-sanctioned event/artificial run (not unlike Kipchoge's), but who'd be interested? They wouldn't get the scientific backing that Kipchoge got, wouldn't get the investment, pacers, the shoes, the dedicated nutrition team and live fueling, etc. I reckon they'd be less likely to run sub 2 hours on a committed doping program. Plenty of runners are already doing it (doping undercover), and they're not achieving those times. Kipchoge's achievement required a very special set of circumstances (not least of all - a very special talent like Kipchoge). It'll be interesting to see what Kipchoge will run his next certifiable marathon in. If he can get close to 2:01:00, it would be a massive achievement and a huge leap forward.

KSU · 12-10-2019 12:13pm

healy1835 wrote: »

Speaking of.....is Kipsang done? I would have had him and Bekele both having their best days behind them prior to Berlin.

Believe he had plans for Autumn Marathon but must have picked up an injury

Wouldn't be suprised to see him head up Tokyo Field (WMM not Olympics) though hasn't broke 2.06 in coming up on 3 years now.

Not in Kansas · 12-10-2019 12:41pm

KSU wrote: »

Only other person close is Bekele and without the exhibition rules we are still close to 2 min off today

Kipchoge is two seconds closer! Surely he will be the one to also do it first in natural circumstances.

Nike sponsoring sub-2 hour marathon attempt

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