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Do you believe in UFOs & flying saucers ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    The craft that appeared on one of the maiden flights of the Concorde was for all intents and purposes a 'Tic Tac' ufo.

    Gives an idea of the thing David Fravor saw.

    For any of the sceptics, go ahead and debunk it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,527 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    The craft that appeared on one of the maiden flights of the Concorde was for all intents and purposes a 'Tic Tac' ufo.

    Gives an idea of the thing David Fravor saw.

    For any of the sceptics, go ahead and debunk it.


    debunk what? what do you think it was?


  • Registered Users Posts: 269 ✭✭Fuzzyduzzy


    Word is out that a clear photo of a triangular shaped vehicle emerging from the ocean will be released in the next few days. This was talked about a lot several months ago and is well known of in the intelligence community. Hopefully not another Batman balloon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Psychlops


    flanna01 wrote: »
    Too much is being read into flying saucers..

    I wonder, do most people appreciate the mind boggling distances involved for a Captain Kirk wannabe needs, to visit the lawn of the Whitehouse?

    Interstellar Space is so vast it cannot be measured in miles, shillings or pence...

    The best method we have at the moment is light years - Which as it says on the tin, is how far light can travel in a year,

    Let me clear that statement up a bit... Light travels at around 86,000 miles PER SECOND!! that's 5,160,000 miles PER MINUTE!

    So, the latest science update, is the nearest Earth like Planet is around 12 Light Years away... That's G'Zillions and G'Zillions on miles away, so far in fact, that our brains cannot really fathom the distance involved.

    So, based on the above... Will young Johnny Stardust from the planet Blob, really undertake such a journey to see what all the noise is about on planet Earth..???

    Would you jump in your car in Cork and drive to Belfast to see an ant hill from 10 feet away, and then turn around and speed off home again...??




    AHHHH I see your problem there buddy, you are judging light years as how we Humans know it, Light years to another Lifeform in the Galaxy could be as short as a trip to the shops.


  • Registered Users Posts: 630 ✭✭✭COVID


    Fuzzyduzzy wrote: »
    Word is out that a clear photo of a triangular shaped vehicle emerging from the ocean will be released in the next few days. This was talked about a lot several months ago and is well known of in the intelligence community. Hopefully not another Batman balloon.

    I believe it's part of a promotional campaign for Toblerone.

    It's basically a small submarine draped in Toblerone livery, in the traditional triangular shape of the iconic Swiss chocolate confectionery item.

    It was co-sponsored by Saudi Arabia and George Soros.


  • Registered Users Posts: 630 ✭✭✭COVID


    Psychlops wrote: »
    AHHHH I see your problem there buddy, you are judging light years as how we Humans know it, Light years to another Lifeform in the Galaxy could be as short as a trip to the shops.

    I see what you did there.

    You're using the chummy lingua franca of the streets in a humble attempt to disguise your more than obvious academic and scientific prowess in the complex study of intergalactic travel.

    Nice one, dude.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    I'm bringing a towel, just to be on the safe side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    flanna01 wrote: »
    Too much is being read into flying saucers..

    I wonder, do most people appreciate the mind boggling distances involved for a Captain Kirk wannabe needs, to visit the lawn of the Whitehouse?

    Interstellar Space is so vast it cannot be measured in miles, shillings or pence...

    The best method we have at the moment is light years - Which as it says on the tin, is how far light can travel in a year,

    Let me clear that statement up a bit... Light travels at around 86,000 miles PER SECOND!! that's 5,160,000 miles PER MINUTE!

    So, the latest science update, is the nearest Earth like Planet is around 12 Light Years away... That's G'Zillions and G'Zillions on miles away, so far in fact, that our brains cannot really fathom the distance involved.

    So, based on the above... Will young Johnny Stardust from the planet Blob, really undertake such a journey to see what all the noise is about on planet Earth..???

    Would you jump in your car in Cork and drive to Belfast to see an ant hill from 10 feet away, and then turn around and speed off home again...??

    Thanks for the data on interstellar distances. I don't think you'll find many that don't know that planets capable of supporting life are far away.

    One of the proponents of the theory that we've been visited by alien life is Avi Loeb. He's the former chair of the Harvard department of astronomy.

    You think his theory falls flat because he forgot other planets are far away?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,851 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Fuzzyduzzy wrote: »
    Word is out that a clear photo of a triangular shaped vehicle emerging from the ocean will be released in the next few days. This was talked about a lot several months ago and is well known of in the intelligence community. Hopefully not another Batman balloon.

    Any source ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 630 ✭✭✭COVID


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Thanks for the data on interstellar distances. I don't think you'll find many that don't know that planets capable of supporting life are far away.

    One of the proponents of the theory that we've been visited by alien life is Avi Loeb. He's the former chair of the Harvard department of astronomy.

    You think his theory falls flat because he forgot other planets are far away?

    You mean this guy Avi Loeb and his sponsor/benefactor, Russian billionaire Yuri Milner?

    Here's what some are saying about Abe Loeb and his 'theory that we've been visited by alien life':


    "'Oumuamua' is not an alien spaceship, and the authors of the paper insult honest scientific inquiry to even suggest it," tweeted Paul M. Sutter, an astrophysicist at Ohio State University, shortly after the paper published.

    North Carolina State University astrophysicist Katie Mack suggested to the Verge that Loeb was engaging in a common practice in which an astrophysicist poses a theory that they might not believe. “Sometimes you write a paper about something that you don’t believe to be true at all, just for the purpose of putting out there,” she told the publication.

    “A shocking example of sensationalist, ill-motivated science,” theoretical astrophysicist Ethan Siegel wrote in Forbes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    COVID wrote: »
    You mean this guy Avi Loeb and his sponsor/benefactor, Russian billionaire Yuri Milner?

    Here's what some are saying about Abe Loeb and his 'theory that we've been visited by alien life':


    "'Oumuamua' is not an alien spaceship, and the authors of the paper insult honest scientific inquiry to even suggest it," tweeted Paul M. Sutter, an astrophysicist at Ohio State University, shortly after the paper published.

    North Carolina State University astrophysicist Katie Mack suggested to the Verge that Loeb was engaging in a common practice in which an astrophysicist poses a theory that they might not believe. “Sometimes you write a paper about something that you don’t believe to be true at all, just for the purpose of putting out there,” she told the publication.

    “A shocking example of sensationalist, ill-motivated science,” theoretical astrophysicist Ethan Siegel wrote in Forbes.

    Avi wrote a paper. His opponent wrote a journalistic article. See the difference. Peer review vs journalism.


  • Registered Users Posts: 630 ✭✭✭COVID


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Avi wrote a paper. His opponent wrote a journalistic article. See the difference. Peer review vs journalism.

    No.

    The people quoted are scientists: here are the tiny clues:

    North Carolina State University astrophysicist Katie Mack

    Paul M. Sutter, an astrophysicist at Ohio State University

    A shocking example of sensationalist, ill-motivated science,” theoretical astrophysicist Ethan Siegel wrote in Forbes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,026 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    COVID wrote: »
    You mean this guy Avi Loeb and his sponsor/benefactor, Russian billionaire Yuri Milner?

    Here's what some are saying about Abe Loeb and his 'theory that we've been visited by alien life':

    "'Oumuamua' is not an alien spaceship, and the authors of the paper insult honest scientific inquiry to even suggest it," tweeted Paul M. Sutter, an astrophysicist at Ohio State University, shortly after the paper published.

    North Carolina State University astrophysicist Katie Mack suggested to the Verge that Loeb was engaging in a common practice in which an astrophysicist poses a theory that they might not believe. “Sometimes you write a paper about something that you don’t believe to be true at all, just for the purpose of putting out there,” she told the publication.

    “A shocking example of sensationalist, ill-motivated science,” theoretical astrophysicist Ethan Siegel wrote in Forbes.

    Moncrieff had a lad on recently who was talking about his study of that object. Ruled out any chance of it being an extraterrestrial “space craft”.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users Posts: 630 ✭✭✭COVID


    Moncrieff had a lad on recently who was talking about his study of that object. Ruled out any chance of it being an extraterrestrial “space craft”.

    Yep.

    There's a lot of Russian billionaire Yuri Milner's money available - hundreds of millions - for anyone who'll run with this alien space invader theory and who'll 'research' and give credence to same.


  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭VanHalen


    COVID wrote: »
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



    Great footage.

    Clear as crystal and 100% proof that flying saucers exist.

    Plus, as a fluent Portuguese speaker, I can tell you now the commentator is announcing the end of the world as we know it!

    I think he says something at the beginning about there not being a vaccine to stop the spread of the new variants - who is this guy?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup



    For any of the sceptics, go ahead and debunk it.


    em God playing with a YoYo ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Moncrieff had a lad on recently who was talking about his study of that object. Ruled out any chance of it being an extraterrestrial “space craft”.

    Sure my granny talked to a lad that ruled out vaccines being safe. Avi published a paper. This means he went through a peer review process where a panel of several scientists go through your data and conclusions and determine if the data is sound and the conclusion which is built on that data is sound.

    Here's the abstract to Avi's paper. Rebutting a paper requires generating or analysing data then forming an alternative explanation for the object. You don't dismiss science by going on a chat show and saying that paper is BS.

    ‘Oumuamua (1I/2017 U1) is the first object of interstellar origin observed in the Solar System. Recently,
    Micheli et al. (2018) reported that ‘Oumuamua showed deviations from a Keplerian orbit at a high statistical
    significance. The observed trajectory is best explained by an excess radial acceleration ∆a ∝ r−2, where r is the distance of ‘Oumuamua from the Sun. Such an acceleration is naturally expected for comets, driven by the
    evaporating material. However, recent observational and theoretical studies imply that ‘Oumuamua is not an active comet. We explore the possibility that the excess acceleration results from Solar radiation pressure. The
    required mass-to-area ratio is (m/A) ≈ 0.1 g cm−2
    . For a thin sheet this requires a thickness of ≈ 0.3−0.9 mm.
    We find that although extremely thin, such an object would survive an interstellar travel over Galactic distances of ∼ 5 kpc, withstanding collisions with gas and dust-grains as well as stresses from rotation and tidal forces.
    We discuss the possible origins of such an object. Our general results apply to any light probes designed for
    interstellar travel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    COVID wrote: »
    Yep.

    There's a lot of Russian billionaire Yuri Milner's money available - hundreds of millions - for anyone who'll run with this alien space invader theory and who'll 'research' and give credence to same.

    Back to the conspiracies C.

    I don't think that Russian billionaires are using money to dictate what science Harvard engages in.

    You remind me of a guy I met while working in the US. A colleague of ours would be a proponent of the existence of bigfoot. Another colleague would completely take the p1ss out of him and admonish him for such as belief. Until someone brought up the twin towers at which point he put on the tin foil hat and went straight into it was a CIA operation, Kennedy assassination ect ect.

    You're not a sceptic C, your a conspiracy theorist that doesn't seem to like one type of conspiracy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 630 ✭✭✭COVID


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Back to the conspiracies C.

    I don't think that Russian billionaires are using money to dictate what science Harvard engages in.

    You remind me of a guy I met while working in the US. A colleague of ours would be a proponent of the existence of bigfoot. Another colleague would completely take the p1ss out of him and admonish him for such as belief. Until someone brought up the twin towers at which point he put on the tin foil hat and went straight into it was a CIA operation, Kennedy assassination ect ect.

    You're not a sceptic C, your a conspiracy theorist that doesn't seem to like one type of conspiracy.

    Less of the ad hominem attacks, please.

    I haven't passed comment on you personally, nor do I intend to.

    An apology would be nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,438 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Fuzzyduzzy wrote: »
    Word is out that a clear photo of a triangular shaped vehicle emerging from the ocean will be released in the next few days. This was talked about a lot several months ago and is well known of in the intelligence community. Hopefully not another Batman balloon.

    That object that looked like a balloon was meant to be cubed wasn't it?

    This is what DeLonge is putting out there these days, really shows the quality control going on for the group that's supposedly at the forefront of disclosure.
    https://twitter.com/tomdelonge/status/1366078633312313353


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  • Registered Users Posts: 630 ✭✭✭COVID


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Wow, it's a hologram Jim, but not as we know it! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    COVID wrote: »
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Wow, it's a hologram Jim, but not as we know it! :)
    Do you realise you've posted on this thread over 100 times in just over a fortnight?
    Tap the brakes like.


  • Registered Users Posts: 630 ✭✭✭COVID


    Do you realise you've posted on this thread over 100 times in just over a fortnight?
    Tap the brakes like.

    What's it to you, did I break any rules?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    COVID wrote: »
    What's it to you, did I break any rules?
    No, not at all, carry on.



    I'm off for a shave.

    10011394?id=-Klmv1&fmt=jpg&fit=constrain,1&wid=504&hei=548
    :pac:


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Mod: Everyone, less of the sniping and of the backseat modding, please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    About this time last year I saw a sheep floating about 2 feet off the ground and then there was an incredibly loud 'hiss', kinda like a steam engine,and it dropped. Was at night when I was checking them during lambing and it was Fcuking freaky.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    JJayoo wrote: »
    About this time last year I saw a sheep floating about 2 feet off the ground and then there was an incredibly loud 'hiss', kinda like a steam engine,and it dropped. Was at night when I was checking them during lambing and it was Fcuking freaky.


    This might be a better place for your post, would you like me to move it?


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056831498&page=1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    New Home wrote: »
    This might be a better place for your post, would you like me to move it?


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056831498&page=1

    Na I was just making stuff up :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 935 ✭✭✭flanna01


    Back to the topic....

    Do you believe in UFOs? Simple logical answer is yes. But not the crafts of different worlds. Nearly 99% of the flying objects I see I cannot identify, I assume they are planes, they look like planes, they move like a plane....

    Do you believe in flying saucers? Simple logical answer is No. Consider all the data out there, and not just the nut case stuff. Look at it from a scientific point of view, the very suggestion that an alien civilization that has mastered space travel, set off to Planet earth, and then just plays hide and seek in the sky is an affront to the very life forms that made it here.. Common sense has to prevail.

    Of course there is other life in the Universe, that's a given. But they, or nobody else has ever visited the Earth.

    So where is everybody?? Quite simple answer to a difficult question would be; If you were to row out into the middle of the Indian Ocean, remove a teaspoon from your pocket, scoop out a spoon of water and examine it..... You will see no visible signs of life - Therefore, the conclusion must be, that there are no other life forms in the Indian Ocean.

    The spoon full of water is all we know about the Universe at the moment..... The size of the Indian Ocean (Space) is beyond our comprehension.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭auspicious


    I don't know if it's been posted already but this is an interesting one: The Aguadilla UFO.



    Here is the analysis compiled by senior scientists ( two at least with military background). Conclusions begin on pg 42. It's not a bird though.

    https://www.scribd.com/document/494200391/2013-Aguadilla-Puerto-Rico-Detailed-Analysis-of-UFO-Incident


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    I think what convinces me most that something more fantastical is going on is the failure of people to put forward rational explanations for the things encountered during the Nimitz encounter ect.

    There's a huge mystery that hasn't been explained by scientists, the military and even trained pilots. Saying it's unexplained so it's definitely aliens is wrong, although that's certainly a distinct possibility that this is an explanation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,622 ✭✭✭maninasia


    debunk what? what do you think it was?

    It's a classic but often explained as internal lens refraction.


  • Registered Users Posts: 269 ✭✭Fuzzyduzzy




  • Registered Users Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    UFO week on Blaze. Starts tomorrow night at 9.


    https://www.freeview.co.uk/blogs/blaze-ufo-week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,622 ✭✭✭maninasia


    flanna01 wrote: »
    Back to the topic....

    Do you believe in UFOs? Simple logical answer is yes. But not the crafts of different worlds. Nearly 99% of the flying objects I see I cannot identify, I assume they are planes, they look like planes, they move like a plane....

    Do you believe in flying saucers? Simple logical answer is No. Consider all the data out there, and not just the nut case stuff. Look at it from a scientific point of view, the very suggestion that an alien civilization that has mastered space travel, set off to Planet earth, and then just plays hide and seek in the sky is an affront to the very life forms that made it here.. Common sense has to prevail.

    Of course there is other life in the Universe, that's a given. But they, or nobody else has ever visited the Earth.

    So where is everybody?? Quite simple answer to a difficult question would be; If you were to row out into the middle of the Indian Ocean, remove a teaspoon from your pocket, scoop out a spoon of water and examine it..... You will see no visible signs of life - Therefore, the conclusion must be, that there are no other life forms in the Indian Ocean.

    The spoon full of water is all we know about the Universe at the moment..... The size of the Indian Ocean (Space) is beyond our comprehension.

    It's more like the Mediterranean sea though. We are in the Milky way, itaelf having billions of planets.
    100,000 light years across, you could cross it at .1 speed of light in 1 million years. . Most efficient way to explore it would be using vonneumann self replicating intelligent robots.
    It's well within the boundsof possibilities we have been visited and even that we are currently being observed. The milky way is about 12 or 13 billions old and the sun and the earth have existed for billions of years already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,438 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    UFO week on Blaze. Starts tomorrow night at 9.


    https://www.freeview.co.uk/blogs/blaze-ufo-week

    Glen Beck’s channel, the bigs boys are on the case!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,654 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    This upcoming report should be interesting:

    UFO report details ‘difficult to explain’ sightings, says US ex-intelligence director
    US military pilots and satellites have recorded ‘a lot more’ UFO sightings than have been made public, John Ratcliffe says

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/22/us-government-ufo-report-sightings


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭jmlad2020


    It sure is an exciting time to be alive... This incoming report will offer a fascinating insight into what the Pentagon knows... I'm excited.


  • Registered Users Posts: 935 ✭✭✭flanna01


    jmlad2020 wrote: »
    It sure is an exciting time to be alive... This incoming report will offer a fascinating insight into what the Pentagon knows... I'm excited.

    Not necessarily... There will be a list of unknown or unexplained ariel phenomenon that was not clearly identified to satisfaction.

    Ball Lightening is one such misunderstood phenomenon, as is clandestine military testing of airbourne prototype aircraft.

    Like the Chinese or Russians are not trying to dip their toes in their adversaries air space...?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,676 ✭✭✭mondeo


    Yes I believe, I've seen some weird things in the skies well before drones existed.

    Go on YouTube and search for "Charles Hall tall whites".. Very interesting stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Moncrieff had a lad on recently who was talking about his study of that object. Ruled out any chance of it being an extraterrestrial “space craft”.

    Moncrieff allow all to talk without questioning them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 935 ✭✭✭flanna01


    The vast majority of the western world carry mobile phones now. We have access to instant high resolution video footage, and have done so for over a decade (Note - Talking decent pixels here)

    Yet still no clear footage of these ariel anomalies exist.. (Note I stated the word 'clear')

    More puzzling to me, is the lack of any signal from the heavens that hint of any other Civilisation existed before us....??

    So... As previously stated, I don't think we are the only Planet in this vast Universe that has life (or) has harboured life, so where is everybody?

    Im sorry, but I don't buy into all that flying discs malarkey... The zipping around the skies doing handbrake turns, the abduction of the select few to experiment on, only to return them to their respective bedrooms again, or indeed the precision laser removing of a cows lips just doesn't cut the mustard with me... In fact, I think it belittles the whole topic of extraresstial life out there.

    There are millions of different species on Earth, yet we can't communicate with any of them. Sure, we can get a seal to clap, and a dog to shake paws, but can we really converse with any other species here on Earth - The answer is no.

    Indeed, most of the other different species here on Earth try to avoid us, or don't even recognise us (think ant colony here)

    I am interested in the theory, that all civillisations become extinct before they can evolve to super intelligence. Be this through natural catastrophic events like asteroid strikes, solar flares, greenhouse effects (where applicable) etc... And that's before we look at disease, viruses, global wars, self destruction etc..

    The Earth has been around for billions of years, yet we are only around for a few seconds in the grand scheme of things - Why??

    I suggest that mankind has been restarted several times.... And each and every time has met an abrupt end (bar the absolute few that carry on with the next rebirth). The crocodiles are from the dinosaur era, they kept surviving as others perished..

    We keep finding unexplained ruins that allegedly pre date intelligent man - Think Goblike Tepi here, they say the Egyptians had only copper tools, yet precision drilling is seen everywhere.. The Pyramids were burial chambers, yet the structure within makes no sense at all.. There is so much that we choose not to see, or ignore as they don't match our narratives.

    Just a few thoughts.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    flanna01 wrote: »
    The vast majority of the western world carry mobile phones now. We have access to instant high resolution video footage, and have done so for over a decade (Note - Talking decent pixels here)

    Yet still no clear footage of these ariel anomalies exist.. (Note I stated the word 'clear')

    exactly, plenty of footage of sneezing panda's and yet no defining proof of flying saucers or yeti's for that matter... or ghosts the list goes on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    fryup wrote: »
    exactly, plenty of footage of sneezing panda's and yet no defining proof of flying saucers or yeti's for that matter... or ghosts the list goes on

    You need to get up to speed.They are hovering just above us in a parallel universe in the fourth dimension. Which makes them visible/invisible as easy as flicking a switch.


  • Registered Users Posts: 935 ✭✭✭flanna01


    You need to get up to speed.They are hovering just above us in a parallel universe in the fourth dimension. Which makes them visible/invisible as easy as flicking a switch.

    Please elaborate....

    It's posts like this that belittle the subject.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    flanna01 wrote: »
    Please elaborate....

    It's posts like this that belittle the subject.

    Ok, have a look at this and open your mind. Instead of zipping across the Universe, our alien friends most likely come and go from another dimension.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    Liveline today

    so who was listening... and which of you UFO heads contributed to it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    flanna01 wrote: »
    Not necessarily... There will be a list of unknown or unexplained ariel phenomenon that was not clearly identified to satisfaction.

    Ball Lightening is one such misunderstood phenomenon, as is clandestine military testing of airbourne prototype aircraft.

    Like the Chinese or Russians are not trying to dip their toes in their adversaries air space...?

    Sure that's one possibility but in this case I doubt that the US airforce will claim something as unknown if its a foreign adversary. On the other hand if it's China we're all screwed. The radar data on some of the encounters indicate speeds of up to 80,000 feet a second.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Sure that's one possibility but in this case I doubt that the US airforce will claim something as unknown if its a foreign adversary. On the other hand if it's China we're all screwed. The radar data on some of the encounters indicate speeds of up to 80,000 feet a second.


    That's about 50,000 mph in old money? The G forces involved in sudden acceleration in those tight turns would kill a human occupant?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,026 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    saabsaab wrote: »
    That's about 50,000 mph in old money? The G forces involved in sudden acceleration in those tight turns would kill a human occupant?

    Not if the inertial dampeners, artificial gravity and the deflector array are all “online”.

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