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Gemma O'Doherty and her unicorns

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    creeper1 wrote: »
    Is there anything to substantiate this global cooling hypothesis?
    Not sure which "hypothesis" this is, but in the very long term The Earth is in a relatively cool and stable phase, and can easily deal with much warmer or more extreme temperatures.


    In the shorter term, like in the next few decades, if melting of arctic ice increases it will cause the Gulf Stream to slow, which in turn will make the North Atlantic colder.
    So as far as the Irish are concerned, you can forget about global warming. Not gonna happen around here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    i'd rather chew my knob off than watch a laura southern documentary.
    recedite wrote: »
    I assumed you had already done that, long ago.
    Jaysus, not very Christian of you!


    Emasculation is a big thing in the bible, though maybe not self-emasculation - that's more of a modern thing.

    Samuel verse 18...
    David took his men with him and went out and killed two hundred Philistines and brought back their foreskins. They counted out the full number to the king so that David might become the king's son-in-law. Then Saul gave him his daughter Michal in marriage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,012 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    recedite wrote: »
    Emasculation is a big thing in the bible

    Good thing its all complete fiction so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Gemma's latest video is from Greystones Co.Wicklow where a "catholic" primary school is introducing a transvestite school uniform policy for young kids. (scroll down in the link to see the video)

    The Board of Management claim it is "gender neutral" but that is factually incorrect.
    A unisex school track suit would be an actual "gender neutral" uniform.


    The school itself is "transitioning" from a catholic school to a Progressive School for South Dublin Liberals under the patronage of Minister Simon Harris, the Patron Saint of Abortion and Any Liberal Cause.


    Harris saved this same school 3 years ago from the elderly nuns, who were attempting to cash in some of the land it is built on.
    'The board wishes to acknowledge the support of the Holy Faith Order and public representatives, in particular Minister Simon Harris, and look forward to their continued support in the future.'
    In confirming that the Department of Education had completed the purchase of the convent lands last week, Minister Harris described the move as 'excellent news for the school' and something that 'will be very much welcomed by the whole community'.
    'I now look forward to working with the school on plans for the building,' he said.


    And its not just the school (although getting the kids early is best)
    The Progressive One now appears to be trying to save the whole town from the rampant heterosexuality it enjoyed in the past.

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,436 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    recedite wrote: »
    Gemma's latest video is from Greystones Co.Wicklow where a "catholic" primary school is introducing a transvestite school uniform policy for young kids. (scroll down in the link to see the video)

    The Board of Management claim it is "gender neutral" but that is factually incorrect.
    A unisex school track suit would be an actual "gender neutral" uniform.

    .

    Wouldn't tracksuit bottoms for girls be just as transvestite a policy as skirts for boys?

    Maybe we should protect traditional Irish culture by restricting the boys to traditional kilts?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Wouldn't tracksuit bottoms for girls be just as transvestite a policy as skirts for boys?
    Eh..no. That would be a unisex policy.
    Boys wearing a skirt is a transvestite policy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,436 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    recedite wrote: »
    Eh..no. That would be a unisex policy.
    Boys wearing a skirt is a transvestite policy.
    Why not? Trousers are for men and boys, right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Why not? Trousers are for men and boys, right?
    I wouldn't agree with that, and neither would you ;)

    Besides, tracksuit bottoms are not trousers.


    But... putting a girls school uniform on a boy is clearly a transvestite-friendly policy. It's not a "gender neutral" policy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,436 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    recedite wrote: »
    I wouldn't agree with that, and neither would you ;)

    What is your problem with traditional Irish culture?

    http://www.maggieblanck.com/Mayopages/ImagesM10/DohertyJ050310.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    All that's gonna happen is that some boys who are full of confidence and popular will wear skirts just for the craic and to piss off the teachers and more luck to them. Barmy idea


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    What is your problem with traditional Irish culture?

    http://www.maggieblanck.com/Mayopages/ImagesM10/DohertyJ050310.jpg
    Nice photo. Are those kids barefoot too? Going by the woolly jumpers, its not summertime either.

    Maybe you think going to school barefoot nowadays would be a good idea?
    Babies and small kids used to always wear dresses. It was a cost saving thing. Very young kids wore clothes handed down by older siblings, whether that was an older brother or a sister. Very poor kids kept doing it a bit longer, especially if they were the only boy in the family.
    These boys look a bit too old for wearing girls clothes, but they are probably from a very poor family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,436 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    recedite wrote: »
    Nice photo. Are those kids barefoot too? Going by the woolly jumpers, its not summertime either.

    Maybe you think going to school barefoot nowadays would be a good idea?
    Babies and small kids used to always wear dresses. It was a cost saving thing. Very young kids wore clothes handed down by older siblings, whether that was an older brother or a sister. Very poor kids kept doing it a bit longer, especially if they were the only boy in the family.
    These boys look a bit too old for wearing girls clothes, but they are probably from a very poor family.
    So you now recognise skirts for boys as an Irish tradition, right? Surely we need to protect these traditions from the hordes of invaders at the gate and nurture our own traditions? How exactly does a policy that allows boys to wear skirts have a negative impact for you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    So you now recognise skirts for boys as an Irish tradition, right? Surely we need to protect these traditions from the hordes of invaders at the gate and nurture our own traditions? How exactly does a policy that allows boys to wear skirts have a negative impact for you?
    Unisex clothing for the younger childer was also normal in Britain.
    And probably around the rest of the world as well, I don't know exactly how widespread. How is this relevant?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,436 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    recedite wrote: »
    Unisex clothing for the younger childer was also normal in Britain.
    And probably around the rest of the world as well, I don't know exactly how widespread. How is this relevant?

    So what's the basis for your objection to allowing this traditional mode of dress for boys?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Ebenezer Scrooge wore a night dress to bed, but he was not a transvestite, nor was he in any way confused about his own gender.
    A nightie was unisex garment back then, just as a track suit is now.
    Context is important.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,436 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    recedite wrote: »
    Ebenezer Scrooge wore a night dress to bed, but he was not a transvestite, nor was he in any way confused about his own gender.
    A nightie was unisex garment back then, just as a track suit is now.
    Context is important.

    So you're saying that clothing gender norms change over time?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    They do. But there are always some garments that are considered to be unisex, and some that are strongly associated with a particular gender.


    If a school goes even further, and has assigned a designated uniform to one gender, and a different uniform to the other gender, then its very plain that boys are supposed to wear one and girls wear the other.


    If the school wishes to introduce a unisex uniform policy, comprising some unisex garment, I have no issue with that. That would be a gender neutral policy. Or they could drop the uniform altogether.


    But as soon as you invite boys to wear the girls uniform you are going down the road of weirdness. No doubt the transvestites, transgenderists and miscellaneous other fetishists among us will applaud the move, but those of us with more sense will not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,436 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    recedite wrote: »
    They do. But there are always some garments that are considered to be unisex, and some that are strongly associated with a particular gender.


    If a school goes even further, and has assigned a designated uniform to one gender, and a different uniform to the other gender, then its very plain that boys are supposed to wear one and girls wear the other.


    If the school wishes to introduce a unisex uniform policy, comprising some unisex garment, I have no issue with that. That would be a gender neutral policy. Or they could drop the uniform altogether.


    But as soon as you invite boys to wear the girls uniform you are going down the road of weirdness. No doubt the transvestites, transgenderists and miscellaneous other fetishists among us will applaud the move, but those of us with more sense will not.
    I'd guess that small-minded people thought it was 'weird' when boys started wearing trousers.


    But regardless, I'm still unclear as to what particular problem it causes for you if a school allows boys to wear skirts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    I'd guess that small-minded people thought it was 'weird' when boys started wearing trousers.


    But regardless, I'm still unclear as to what particular problem it causes for you if a school allows boys to wear skirts?

    I would also like to know why this is a conspiracy theory?

    Is it a sinister leftist plot to make students think that non-binary people arent weird?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    King Mob wrote: »
    I would also like to know why this is a conspiracy theory?
    Apparently its one of Gemma's "unicorns".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    recedite wrote: »
    Apparently its one of Gemma's "unicorns".
    So just fantasy to drive youtube views...
    Gotcha.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    King Mob wrote: »
    So just fantasy to drive youtube views...
    Gotcha.

    It certainly appeals to a certain demographic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    King Mob wrote: »
    So just fantasy
    Except its not.
    It certainly appeals to a certain demographic.
    What demographic would that be?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    recedite wrote: »
    Except its not.

    What demographic would that be?

    The racist fùckwit demographic?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    I doubt that counts as an official demographic in any statistical analysis.
    Even if it did, how much correlation would there be between racist fùckwits and parents who don't encourage their son to wear a girls uniform to their local school?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,436 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    recedite wrote: »
    I doubt that counts as an official demographic in any statistical analysis.
    Even if it did, how much correlation would there be between racist fùckwits and parents who don't encourage their son to wear a girls uniform to their local school?
    Do you need someone to explain the difference between 'allowing' and 'encouraging' for you?



    But either way, what impact does it have on you if parents do allow, or even encourage, their son to wear a skirt to school?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    recedite wrote: »
    Except its not.
    Ok, so in what way is it a conspiracy theory?
    In what way is it a problem?
    In what way does it effect you?

    So far as I can tell, the answers are "it's not" and "it doesn't".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    recedite wrote: »
    I doubt that counts as an official demographic in any statistical analysis.
    Even if it did, how much correlation would there be between racist fùckwits and parents who don't encourage their son to wear a girls uniform to their local school?

    It'll do for me in real world situations ;)

    As others have asked, how does this impact on your life? Why does it matter to you or bother you what people choose to wear?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭dvdman1


    Gemma represents a different outlook, whats with all the bashing ... bit ott


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,436 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    dvdman1 wrote: »
    Gemma represents a different outlook, whats with all the bashing ... bit ott

    So what's your view on chemtrails?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    recedite wrote: »
    I doubt that counts as an official demographic in any statistical analysis.
    Even if it did, how much correlation would there be between racist fùckwits and parents who don't encourage their son to wear a girls uniform to their local school?

    i'd say there is quite a strong correlation between racist fùckwits and those who do not want any boys to be allowed to wear skirts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    So what's your view on chemtrails?

    Or on the thought that school shootings in the US are faked to the point thwy are hiring actors to portray grieving parents?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    In the name of Allah, most compassionate and ever merciful, O mankind eat the Lawful and good things out of what is in the earth, like Brennans bread.



    Gemma informs us Brennans Bread is Lawful, and officially Halal.


    I see Al Quadri of the Blanchardstown mosque is on the act there, issuing the certs, which are only valid for one year at a time. Could be a nice little earner if enough food producers want to wave these holy texts at their customers.
    And of course, they would not be bothered doing it if they didn't see one particular demographic growing faster than any other.

    Gotta keep up with the customer base, no matter who they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    recedite wrote: »
    In the name of Allah, most compassionate and ever merciful, O mankind eat the Lawful and good things out of what is in the earth, like Brennans bread.



    Gemma informs us that Brennans Bread is Lawful and officially Halal.


    I see Al Quadri of the Blanchardstown mosque is on the act there, issuing the certs, which are only valid for one year at a time. Could be a nice little earner if enough food producers want to wave these holy texts at their customers.
    And of course, they would not be bothered doing it if they didn't see one particular demographic growing faster than any other.

    Gotta keep up with the customer base, no matter who they are.

    Oh ffs are we back on the halal shìte again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    recedite wrote: »
    In the name of Allah, most compassionate and ever merciful, O mankind eat the Lawful and good things out of what is in the earth, like Brennans bread.



    Gemma informs us Brennans Bread is Lawful, and officially Halal.


    I see Al Quadri of the Blanchardstown mosque is on the act there, issuing the certs, which are only valid for one year at a time. Could be a nice little earner if enough food producers want to wave these holy texts at their customers.
    And of course, they would not be bothered doing it if they didn't see one particular demographic growing faster than any other.

    Gotta keep up with the customer base, no matter who they are.


    Is there much animal slaughter involved in making bread? Asking for a friend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Oh ffs are we back on the halal shìte again?
    Officially certified halal shìte.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    Is there much animal slaughter involved in making bread? Asking for a friend.

    Apart from Keema Nan bread, I doubt it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    recedite wrote: »
    In the name of Allah, most compassionate and ever merciful, O mankind eat the Lawful and good things out of what is in the earth, like Brennans bread.



    Gemma informs us Brennans Bread is Lawful, and officially Halal.


    I see Al Quadri of the Blanchardstown mosque is on the act there, issuing the certs, which are only valid for one year at a time. Could be a nice little earner if enough food producers want to wave these holy texts at their customers.
    And of course, they would not be bothered doing it if they didn't see one particular demographic growing faster than any other.

    Gotta keep up with the customer base, no matter who they are.

    Again, confused as to what the conspiracy or problem is here...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    recedite wrote: »
    Officially certified halal shìte.

    Who gives a shìte? Seriously do you check every label to see if anything you buy is halal?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Is there much animal slaughter involved in making bread? Asking for a friend.
    IMO the issue is more that Irish companies now feel some kind of market pressure to fund Islamic certification programs.
    Food companies such as Glanbia, Avonmore and Brennans are going to use a certain amount of meat and/or dairy products as ingredients.


    Some folks like the chain of supply to be certified organic, some like it fair trade, and some like it Halal. The market decides which is best.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Seriously do you check every label to see if anything you buy is halal?
    No, that's why Gemma has done us a favour by alerting us.
    Brennans wholemeal was part of my daily diet until today, but I'll have to see what alternatives are out there. I can't be having 0.0000000000001% of the price of my sliced pan going towards funding the Islamic Centre.


  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    recedite wrote: »
    No, that's why Gemma has done us a favour by alerting us.
    Brennans wholemeal was part of my daily diet until today, but I'll have to see what alternatives are out there. I can't be having 0.0000000000001% of the price of my sliced pan going towards funding the Islamic Centre.

    Why do we need halal anything in Ireland? We have a tiny amount of muslims.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    recedite wrote: »
    No, that's why Gemma has done us a favour by alerting us.
    Brennans wholemeal was part of my daily diet until today, but I'll have to see what alternatives are out there. I can't be having 0.0000000000001% of the price of my sliced pan going towards funding the Islamic Centre.
    Oooh. You're doing a bit where you pretend to think this twitter troll is actually relevant.
    I get it now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    recedite wrote: »
    IMO the issue is more that Irish companies now feel some kind of market pressure to fund Islamic certification programs.
    Food companies such as Glanbia, Avonmore and Brennans are going to use a certain amount of meat and/or dairy products as ingredients.


    Some folks like the chain of supply to be certified organic, some like it fair trade, and some like it Halal. The market decides which is best.

    Or maybe, just maybe, they feel they can reach a new audience for very little outlay and this all makes sound financial sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    Why do we need halal anything in Ireland? We have a tiny amount of muslims.

    Because it has no effect on the people who don't care about halal.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    Because it has no effect on the people who don't care about halal.

    So we are changing it for a tiny amount of people that do care. I see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,932 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    Why do we need halal anything in Ireland? We have a tiny amount of muslims.

    Because we have a small population of people to whom religious dietary restrictions apply.
    Not all Muslim either.
    Why would we not have Halal or Kosher food available to them?

    Or should they just shut up and eat the bacon?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    So we are changing it for a tiny amount of people that do care. I see.

    why do you care how a business decides to spend its money?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    recedite wrote: »
    No, that's why Gemma has done us a favour by alerting us.
    Brennans wholemeal was part of my daily diet until today, but I'll have to see what alternatives are out there. I can't be having 0.0000000000001% of the price of my sliced pan going towards funding the Islamic Centre.

    Sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    So we are changing it for a tiny amount of people that do care. I see.

    Tell me this, what's "changed" and how does it affect you?


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