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Chain Saw Chat

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  • #52
    kay 9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,672 ✭✭✭kay 9


    Great country bud for portin' saws lol. Between mastermind and snellerized, I'd have one from either. It's only a matter of time until they find more rpms from the new 661 too if they ain't already :d


  • #53
    Reindeer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Reindeer


    OK, I edited the times together:

    http://youtu.be/KJJPskXoE8Q

    I honestly do not see a need to port one unless you happen to want to run a long bar on it, or are cutting railroad ties all day long.
    Granted, to get those times you have to remove the baffle, which is not an easy thing to do, and it creates a world of noise. But if you work forestry instead of estates, it may be worth it. If anyone wants the muffler mod here in Ireland, just let me know. It takes 3 hours starts to finish because it is fiddly work, and the metal is hard on burrs, but I think I can do it for a reasonable fee. Just PM me if ya like. The exhaust is a very easy thing to remove and reinstall yourself. The exhaust gasket on the MS261 even has tabs to keep it in place when you are reassembling the muffler.


  • #54
    ford2600
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭ford2600


    Seriously
    as someone who measures noise professionally, if your able to notice a big increase in noise the energy hitting your ear is enormously higher.
    With combined hearing/faceguards/helmets the protection is often not what it should be.

    When using saw for day, I use properly fitted plugs(get second hand around back of your head a straighten ear canal while inserting plug with other hand) and muffs(I don't put too much faith in muffs as they move a bit and the faceguard can interfere with fit). If using a ported saw I would recommend this for certain.

    @ Reindeer nice work with saw btw like a hot knife through butter


  • #55
    Kevin McCloud
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭Kevin McCloud


    Looking for some parts, converting the tool less tensioner on a stihl 361 to the normal side tensioner and nuts.
    If some one has a saw scrapped with a side cover, tensioner kit and stud. Im most sure other models share the same pieces.


  • #56
    kay 9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,672 ✭✭✭kay 9


    Kevin McCloud wrote: »
    Looking for some parts, converting the tool less tensioner on a stihl 361 to the normal side tensioner and nuts.
    If some one has a saw scrapped with a side cover, tensioner kit and stud. Im most sure other models share the same pieces.

    I didn't think the 361 came with tool less tensioner as it's a pro saw. You sure it's a 361 mate? Not being a dick


  • #57
    Kevin McCloud
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭Kevin McCloud


    kay 9 wrote: »
    I didn't think the 361 came with tool less tensioner as it's a pro saw. You sure it's a 361 mate? Not being a dick

    Appreciate your concern, i did think it was out of the norm but the stihl 260 had it which is a pro saw too. I havent paid for the item yet, won it on ebay so nothing lost yet :)


  • #58
    Kevin McCloud
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭Kevin McCloud


    Been on the google there and it seems that they do exist alright. The yanks seem to like it.

    http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/stihl-quick-chain-adjuster.57152/


  • #59
    pilgrim pat
    Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭pilgrim pat


    dose wrangler star on youtube have his bar in upside down ?


  • #60
    Kevin McCloud
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭Kevin McCloud


    pilgrim pat wrote: »
    dose wrangler star on youtube have his bar in upside down ?

    He does, it cuts faster.


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  • #61
    BreadnBuddha
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭BreadnBuddha


    Kevin McCloud wrote: »
    He does, it cuts faster.

    :)

    Pat, or anyone else who wonders, flip the bar when you swap or properly sharpen the chain so it wears both sides of the bar rather than just wearing the bottom. Doesn't matter which way up the writing is unless it's one of those 'special edition' Stihl two speed bars, but they're very rare. Like a left handed hammer rare if you know what I mean! ;)

    Remember to dress the burrs on the edge of the bar too with a flat file.


  • #62
    davidk1394
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,174 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Well lads... I use a husqvarna chain saw on the farm.. the 1 things id love to know is how to sharpen a chainsaw.. I bring it to a fella to sharpen it and it costs €8 every time


  • #63
    Kevin McCloud
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭Kevin McCloud


    Sharpening and maintaining a chainsaw chain and bar is something you will pick up very easy if shown. A filing guide set can be got very cheap. One like in link below.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/File-Guide-Sharpening-Kit-Suit-STIHL-Chainsaws-Choose-Your-Size-From-Box-/390538337965?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&var=&hash=item5aede61ead

    There are electric sharpeners and other gadgets but the basic kit will do the job. Paying someone €8 a go to sharpen your chain gets expensive.


  • #64
    Kevin McCloud
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭Kevin McCloud


    This you tube video is pretty good, gets going at 4 minutes.



  • #65
    Bodacious
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Bodacious


    ive a new ms261 18inch bar and in fairness its eating through load of spruce that is 1 year old


    ive felled 2 years old oak tree on land that id love to tidy up and be great burning no doubt but would it be awful hard on new saw and chain.. should I put an older chain on it for this job and spare my good one for the soft wood its at.. thanks


  • #66
    Kevin McCloud
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭Kevin McCloud


    If both chains are the same it wont matter.


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  • #67
    Cowabunga
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭Cowabunga


    Bodacious wrote: »
    ive a new ms261 18inch bar and in fairness its eating through load of spruce that is 1 year old


    ive felled 2 years old oak tree on land that id love to tidy up and be great burning no doubt but would it be awful hard on new saw and chain.. should I put an older chain on it for this job and spare my good one for the soft wood its at.. thanks

    Running a saw with a blunt/dull (older chain) is never a good idea. It dogs your saw, it's components and the operator. Make sure it's as sharp as can be. You'll get the best longevity out if it.


  • #68
    Jonty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Jonty


    Bodacious wrote: »
    should I put an older chain on it for this job and spare my good one for the soft wood its at.. thanks

    Chains are considered consumables. You should always have plenty of good sharp ones.


  • #69
    jonon9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonon9


    Quick question that I cant seem to find the answer off through google.

    What percentage of ethanol is there in petrol in Ireland. Are we running something like E10?

    reason I ask is because I never gave it much thought till I watched a you tube video.


  • #70
    CJhaughey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    jonon9 wrote: »
    Quick question that I cant seem to find the answer off through google.

    What percentage of ethanol is there in petrol in Ireland. Are we running something like E10?

    reason I ask is because I never gave it much thought till I watched a you tube video.
    Supposed to be 6% but given the variable quality of Irish Fuel, both diesel and petrol I would think it can vary either way from that base spec.


  • #71
    Reindeer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Reindeer


    Cowabunga wrote: »
    Running a saw with a blunt/dull (older chain) is never a good idea. It dogs your saw, it's components and the operator. Make sure it's as sharp as can be. You'll get the best longevity out if it.

    Chains and bars are often neglected in chainsaw work. They are the most important part. A dull chain takes a saw from great to near worthless. Keep them sharp and your bar dressed:

    Here's a vid I did recently with a dull chain and worn bar - then sharp(ened) chain and worn bar with some mods - then sharp chain and newish bar with the same mods:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2I7uPprq5U


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  • #72
    BreadnBuddha
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭BreadnBuddha


    Tried out a 560XPG today at the local dealers as Husqvarna were there running some end of year promotions. What a cracker of a saw. I can only imagine what it would be like if Reindeer worked his magic on it.


  • #73
    kay 9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,672 ✭✭✭kay 9


    BreadnBuddha wrote: »
    Tried out a 560XPG today at the local dealers as Husqvarna were there running some end of year promotions. What a cracker of a saw. I can only imagine what it would be like if Reindeer worked his magic on it.
    Ya can't do much in relation to porting with the new autotune saws. Can only be mildly ported with less % power increase etc. Have a 550 myself and don't yet feel the need to do any tuning work in it. Little screamer


  • #74
    jonon9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonon9


    Just put 9 tanks through my ms 362 and boy what a saw the m-tronic isnt bad at all, a few more tanks and she should be fully set in. See a few threads on the net about muffler mod I wonder is it worth the price for that extra bit of grunt.


  • #75
    BreadnBuddha
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭BreadnBuddha


    kay 9 wrote: »
    Ya can't do much in relation to porting with the new autotune saws. Can only be mildly ported with less % power increase etc. Have a 550 myself and don't yet feel the need to do any tuning work in it. Little screamer

    I suppose there's enough going on already to make them rev as well as they do.

    Haven't had a chance to do anything with the 395 but maybe time will present itself to me over the Christmas and new year holidays.


  • #76
    Reindeer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Reindeer


    The AutoTunes do port well, but you have to know what you're doing and they require lathe work to really shine. I don't have a lathe myself, though. But a typical muffler mod seems to work really well onvthem.


  • #77
    BreadnBuddha
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭BreadnBuddha


    BreadnBuddha wrote: »
    Tried out a 560XPG today at the local dealers as Husqvarna were there running some end of year promotions. What a cracker of a saw. I can only imagine what it would be like if Reindeer worked his magic on it.

    So, a 560XPG appeared under the Christmas tree.... It seems my notes of pricing (€879 plus VAT) and a savage discount (to €690 pus VAT with an 18" bar, three chains and 5L of aspen) all set out on the dealers brochure was noted. Completely unintended as a hint but that's what it was taken as!

    I hadn't mentioned the 543XPG nor the 395 as they were bought from my 'play fund' and the assumption was made that I still wanted a new saw, and that must be the one I wanted as it was the only one with pricing. Fair play to ya Santa!

    My mind now turns to porting the 242XP...


  • #78
    Gerry29
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭Gerry29


    Hi Guys
    I'm doing a chainsaw course in Portlaoise in Jan or feb was wondering if anyone has finished this course could you let me know how it went I'll be staying in a b&b could you recommend one also if anyone else is taking this course would you get in touch
    cheers Gerry


  • #79
    jonon9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonon9


    Gerry29 wrote: »
    Hi Guys
    I'm doing a chainsaw course in Portlaoise in Jan or feb was wondering if anyone has finished this course could you let me know how it went I'll be staying in a b&b could you recommend one also if anyone else is taking this course would you get in touch
    cheers Gerry


    Are you doing it with KTC training?? If you are the two lads that train in chainsaw are spot on I did my 30/31 with them there a few weeks ago, I didn't get to do the final assessment as I had to rush home family emergency but will be back up in January to sit my assessment. When I was there I had to stay in a hotel as it was they only thing I could get cheapest that week.

    If it is KTC the training center is only a few km from the town center but the forest you be cutting in is near Abbeyleix


  • #80
    Reindeer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Reindeer


    jonon9 wrote: »
    Are you doing it with KTC training?? If you are the two lads that train in chainsaw are spot on I did my 30/31 with them there a few weeks ago, I didn't get to do the final assessment as I had to rush home family emergency but will be back up in January to sit my assessment. When I was there I had to stay in a hotel as it was they only thing I could get cheapest that week.

    If it is KTC the training center is only a few km from the town center but the forest you be cutting in is near Abbeyleix

    And it is a gorgeous area - where the last forestry show was, no? Or was that year before last?


  • #81
    Reindeer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Reindeer


    BreadnBuddha wrote: »
    So, a 560XPG appeared under the Christmas tree.... It seems my notes of pricing (€879 plus VAT) and a savage discount (to €690 pus VAT with an 18" bar, three chains and 5L of aspen) all set out on the dealers brochure was noted. Completely unintended as a hint but that's what it was taken as!

    I hadn't mentioned the 543XPG nor the 395 as they were bought from my 'play fund' and the assumption was made that I still wanted a new saw, and that must be the one I wanted as it was the only one with pricing. Fair play to ya Santa!

    My mind now turns to porting the 242XP...

    Bring it on over. They are one of my favourites. ;)

    How do you like the 543?


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  • #82
    Reindeer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Reindeer


    jonon9 wrote: »
    Just put 9 tanks through my ms 362 and boy what a saw the m-tronic isnt bad at all, a few more tanks and she should be fully set in. See a few threads on the net about muffler mod I wonder is it worth the price for that extra bit of grunt.

    If you are handy with a dremel, a muffler mod is something you can do yourself. The MTronics wake up well with one.

    This is a 261 missing it's baffle and the outside muffler port enlarged:

    http://m7.i.pbase.com/g9/22/22/3/158364757.gbjFojnk.jpg


  • #83
    jonon9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonon9


    Reindeer wrote: »
    And it is a gorgeous area - where the last forestry show was, no? Or was that year before last?

    Can't remember it could have been the year before.


  • #84
    BreadnBuddha
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭BreadnBuddha


    Reindeer wrote: »
    Bring it on over. They are one of my favourites. ;)

    How do you like the 543?

    The 543 is great. It's light and fast and ideal for the 6-8" silver and downy birch I'm processing for firewood at the moment. It will also do fine for clean up after some second thinnings in the woods due to take place in the next few months.

    I will think a little more before committing to doing anything with the 242 but it's very tempting. It's more that it CAN be done than any need!


  • #85
    Gerry29
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭Gerry29


    Thanks for that it's a Coillte run course is that KTC


  • #86
    Reindeer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Reindeer


    BreadnBuddha wrote: »
    The 543 is great. It's light and fast and ideal for the 6-8" silver and downy birch I'm processing for firewood at the moment. It will also do fine for clean up after some second thinnings in the woods due to take place in the next few months.

    I will think a little more before committing to doing anything with the 242 but it's very tempting. It's more that it CAN be done than any need!

    How does it compare to the 242?


  • #87
    BreadnBuddha
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭BreadnBuddha


    Reindeer wrote: »
    How does it compare to the 242?

    I have to say I think it's a good saw compared to the 242. I don't like the auto return stop switch or the choke control, both of which are better on the older saws. I could say the same about the 560 too so it's not a big deal.

    With the same 13" 1.3 bar and chain combo as what's on the 242, it's a little ripper. Whether you've had a 242 or not, it's a lovely little machine for what it's designed to do. It's well built and very well balanced and the chainbrake lever is snappier, easier to set and a bit closer to the back of the left hand. All good things.

    Twin bar nuts and chain tension adjust on the outside which is better, and it oils very well. Clutch cover is plastic but it's well up to the job and while it'll scuff and whatnot, a replacement is only €27. I've ordered one and a couple of spare flywheel cover decals to set aside for when the time comes to sell it on or just to freshen it up.

    Not much to grumble about at all. The heated handles are better than the ones on the 242 too. Heat quickly and damned hot!


  • #88
    jonon9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonon9


    Gerry29 wrote: »
    Thanks for that it's a Coillte run course is that KTC

    No KTC is an independent Training facility.


  • #89
    BreadnBuddha
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭BreadnBuddha


    It's dead in here.

    I suppose all the husky fellas are cutting wood and all the Stihl fellas are fixing their hair....

    What? Who said that!

    [Duck out again quickly]


  • #90
    Nekarsulm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,219 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    BreadnBuddha wrote: »
    It's dead in here.

    I suppose all the husky fellas are cutting wood and all the Stihl fellas are fixing their hair....

    What? Who said that!

    [Duck out again quickly]

    Too professional.... everyone's afraid to open their mouth. And all the Jono and Solo boys are used to having no friends, so don't even log on..........


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  • #91
    jonon9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonon9


    BreadnBuddha wrote: »
    It's dead in here.

    I suppose all the husky fellas are cutting wood and all the Stihl fellas are fixing their hair....

    What? Who said that!

    [Duck out again quickly]

    A come on now Having nice looking hair is part of having a Stihl :D

    Was actually out cutting today and was trying out my new combi can with them refill spouts the misses got me for xmas, not a bad piece of gear really cuts down on making extra trips back to get the oil can.


  • #92
    Reindeer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Reindeer


    Be mindful out there folks, we just had a man come around asking us to purchase some ash from the estate for use for hurleys. He gave us the name John Fleming. We ask some locals had they known him, as well as the local gard(as we do before allowing anyone on to the estate) and after a fashion we found that he is likely John Keane. If anyone here is unfamiliar with that man, this article will have you up to date:

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0715/303757-ganleyd/

    Be vigilante. He is still claiming to be from Faugheen. I was informed this very man had been given permission to remove 10 ash trees a few years back from our estate. After he had left, we found he had removed no less than 40 healthy trees from a wood we had not allowed him to be in.


  • #93
    O.A.P
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭O.A.P


    Reindeer wrote: »
    Be mindful out there folks, we just had a man come around asking us to purchase some ash from the estate for use for hurleys. He gave us the name John Fleming. We ask some locals had they known him, as well as the local gard(as we do before allowing anyone on to the estate) and after a fashion we found that he is likely John Keane. If anyone here is unfamiliar with that man, this article will have you up to date:

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0715/303757-ganleyd/

    Be vigilante. He is still claiming to be from Faugheen. I was informed this very man had been given permission to remove 10 ash trees a few years back from our estate. After he had left, we found he had removed no less than 40 healthy trees from a wood we had not allowed him to be in.
    I find it hard to fathom how anybody could have so much neck, I remember the story (I come from around there) and we all thought at the time it was unbelievable cheek.
    He should be locked up for a few years at least it might teach him that other peoples irreplaceable property means more than money.


  • #94
    davidk1394
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,174 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    O.A.P wrote: »
    I find it hard to fathom how anybody could have so much neck, I remember the story (I come from around there) and we all thought at the time it was unbelievable cheek.
    He should be locked up for a few years at least it might teach him that other peoples irreplaceable property means more than money.
    Did he not get jailed for a while


  • #95
    Kevin McCloud
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭Kevin McCloud


    Have all the saws fueled up and ready for road tomo, tonight and morning will be a wild one.


  • #96
    jonon9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonon9


    Kevin McCloud wrote: »
    Have all the saws fueled up and ready for road tomo, tonight and morning will be a wild one.

    And have the tea and sandwiches in the lunch box.


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  • #97
    Reindeer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Reindeer


    Did I promise to show results of modding my 241CM?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKqetZ1q8B8


  • #98
    Kevin McCloud
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭Kevin McCloud


    Good job Reindeer, the critics might be saying that you used different bar and possibly chain in your comparisions :)


  • #99
    Reindeer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Reindeer


    Kevin McCloud wrote: »
    Good job Reindeer, the critics might be saying that you used different bar and possibly chain in your comparisions :)

    :)

    I got the B&C for Christmas. I have no Husky saws any more, so I just grinded on that bar until it fit. It started life as 18" 72DL 325 bar, and ended up right at 70DL and 17" or so. I port matched the oiler hole because the saw was ported. But I think it would have given plenty of flow stock without messin' with it.


  • #100
    JohnBoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭JohnBoy


    Looking at buying a small, light saw for cleanup work and for the missus to use. Proabably go for a stihl MS170, but it's sickening to see how expensive they are here compared to the UK.

    They freely sell for around €190 inc vat in the UK, but start at €260 inc vat here. Stihl do not allow their dealers to send chainsaws out by courier, there has to be a handover process, so the irish market stays nicely protected.

    The other alternative is a 30cc echo, seriously nice saw with a real quality feel to it. only one place selling it for a decent price in ireland though, everyone else wants funny money for them too.


    Have a husqvarna 460 for the main saw, but wasnt at all impressed with the entry level huskys, very heavy for what they are, although at least pricing is a bit closer in line with the uk


  • #101
    Reindeer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Reindeer


    An Echo 310 with a muffler mod pulls pretty well for her size. If you can swing it, the 360/355WES is a great lil saw.


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