Coronavirus

slimboyfat · 12-11-2020 2:45pm

jonnygee wrote: »

I dont think shoppers should be blamed especially. Cross border shopper numbers are way way down on pre covid numbers. Even then they were low because of high sterling.
Most people that i know who cross the border have to cross because they work there and have no choice.
Could it be that that Donegal has amongst the highest number of cross border workers along the border with the six counties.
Is it even fact that it is being brought in from there or is it because of something else.

I have to agree with this more sensible point of view

muffler · 12-11-2020 2:54pm

slimboyfat wrote: »

If that was the case, the numbers would be high in all the border counties

But all other border counties do not have the same high population levels in close proximity to them.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 12-11-2020 2:54pm

slimboyfat wrote: »

If that was the case, the numbers would be high in all the border counties

Not all the border counties are bordering the area of NI that had the highest infection rates in the UK, possibly the world, at one point. Derry/Strabane have big populations and are literally the closest big towns/cities to several parts of Donegal. I'm not sure you'd get the same levels of movement from people in Monaghan, for example, going to Enniskillen or Armagh to do their weekly shopping, or socialise.

ednwireland · 16-11-2020 10:09am

hope no ones expecting level 5 to lifted in donegal anytime soon

16-11-2020 10:43am

ednwireland wrote: »

hope no ones expecting level 5 to lifted in donegal anytime soon

I'm not sure it will make much difference, tbh.
I've read several comments online where people have said they're coming home for Christmas.

I know I, for one, won't dissuade my sons from returning, because they have their own house to isolate in, and we can use my daughters kitchen for Christmas Dinner. It's huge ( wish I had it!), and we can easily maintain a 2 metre distance.

I haven't seen my kids in a year, I haven't been out, except for essentials, since March.

Frankly, I'm done. No family (socially distanced) Christmas Dinner is a step too far... so, they'll pay for a test, they'll isolate for the 5 days - but we will have Christmas Dinner.

slimboyfat · 16-11-2020 2:35pm

ednwireland wrote: »

hope no ones expecting level 5 to lifted in donegal anytime soon

Is that your opinion or do you know something else the rest of us don't?

ednwireland · 16-11-2020 3:15pm

slimboyfat wrote: »

Is that your opinion or do you know something else the rest of us don't?

newspapers full of articles over the weekend, basically saying donegal might stay at level 5 due to the 14 day rate. it was in the sunday times yesterday (but cant link to that ) so i know nothing apart form news articles

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/donegal-at-risk-of-longer-lockdown-as-virus-rate-remains-high-39741764.html

https://www.buzz.ie/news/donegal-lockdown-could-be-extended-over-virus-rates-399816

NIMAN · 16-11-2020 5:19pm

I wonder what it is that's keeping Donegal numbers high?

People are blaming the border, but if that was the case wouldn't all border counties be as high?

Maybe the Donegal Derry border sees higher amount of traffic than other border areas?

I was out a walk on our local beach yesterday and it was full of Derry reg cars.

Or maybe it's just that Donegal folk generally have a more 'don't give a damn attitude' than others? I was in a hardware store about an hour ago and 2 tradesmen in their 40s were dandering around the compact shop with no masks. I Would prefer if guards did the odd random walk into shops, supermarkets etc and issue on the spot fines for such people. Perhaps they do? But I doubt it.

madalig12 · 16-11-2020 5:22pm

Funerals. Carndonagh. Saturday. One of the worst areas for covid. Big crowd outside the house/walking behind coffin. No social distancing only about 5/6 wearing masks. How stupid are people?

NIMAN · 16-11-2020 5:27pm

Funny i had heard funerals mentioned a few times this last week or two.

It appears people are ignoring the rules when it comes to them, wakes etc.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 16-11-2020 5:38pm

NIMAN wrote: »

Funny i had heard funerals mentioned a few times this last week or two.

It appears people are ignoring the rules when it comes to them, wakes etc.

One of the doctors mentioned the other day that he had 20something cases that week all linked to one wake.

I think it's a combination of things up here. The border is definitely an issue. If you look at the different regions in Donegal the West and South are much lower than the East. That has to be because of the border. The reason other border counties aren't as high is because we're bordering with the area that had the highest numbers in the whole of the UK for a while. We're also bordering two areas with high population density, and they're literally on the other side of the border.

There's obviously a whole lot of movement between the areas, and a lot of it is legitimate and allowed even with the restrictions, so how do you stop that? If you've got people working in the one space and half of them are going home to a place where there's hardly any restrictions in place and a huge transmission rate, that's going to impact on our numbers.

The fact we were in other levels of restrictions for a few weeks before the level 5 ones came in is probably a contributing factor too. People who didn't want to be following any rules in the first place might have tolerated level 3 or 4 for a week or two, but here we are 6 weeks or more down the line and we're still in the highest level restrictions. I'm sure those people have just given up even pretending they're following the rules.

NIMAN · 16-11-2020 6:26pm

Just seen a social media post from Donegal Gardai saying that from tomorrow they will be redoubling their efforts around checkpoints and trying to limit unessential travel.

ednwireland · 16-11-2020 6:30pm

NIMAN wrote: »

Just seen a social media post from Donegal Gardai saying that from tomorrow they will be redoubling their efforts around checkpoints and trying to limit unessential travel.

zero times zero is still zero

the number off people i know who travel up and down and they have rarely seen a checkpoint.

NIMAN · 16-11-2020 6:54pm

ednwireland wrote: »

zero times zero is still zero

the number off people i know who travel up and down and they have rarely seen a checkpoint.

To be fair to the Guards they can't cover every single border crossing.

For the 1st 2 weeks I know they were on the main crossing up around Muff, Buncrana virtually constantly, I heard that from people who have to cross daily for work.

This last week has seem them leave these unmanned at times. Perhaps they thought if they did a blitz for a couple of weeks they'd deter future unnecessary crossings?

I have cross the border twice in the last 7 or 8 days and admittedly there were no checkpoints there.

muffler · 16-11-2020 7:41pm

Dr Denis McCauley was on the radio this morning and he mentioned funerals as being a source of high infection rate. As a GP he is obviously aware of situations where people are contracting Covid.

A woman rang into the show and while I didnt get the full story it was along the lines of a recent party with about 200 people in attendance and included a live band :eek:

There was a local funeral here in the last few days and video footage was posted on Facebook and there were loads of people lining the street with a lot of them not social distancing nor wearing masks. To make matters worse one of the mourners went along and shook hands with a lot of those people and could be seen hugging at least one person.

Its been said many times that there are people out there who simple dont give a ****

L1011 · 16-11-2020 8:28pm

Funerals are a disaster, particularly if the deceased was big in community stuff or sports locally - lots of "ah sure, its outside" things that are meant to be just observing the procession and turn in to conversations as well as people crowding around the grave.

feelpablo · 16-11-2020 10:17pm

ednwireland wrote: »

zero times zero is still zero

the number off people i know who travel up and down and they have rarely seen a checkpoint.

Im a rep and travel the county weekly and sometimes down to sligo, was in ballina today.

Ive met 1 (ONE) checkpoint in this time during this lockdown mon to fri.

Ive met 3 (three) on the weekends.

considering ive crossed numerous county borders and been in the inishowen area quite a bit i really find it quite worrying

malinheader · 16-11-2020 10:22pm

feelpablo wrote: »

Im a rep and travel the county weekly and sometimes down to sligo, was in ballina today.

Ive met 1 (ONE) checkpoint in this time during this lockdown mon to fri.

Ive met 3 (three) on the weekends.

considering ive crossed numerous county borders and been in the inishowen area quite a bit i really find it quite worrying

Exactly same. Work away from home, constantly crossing from north to south quiet a bit. Met one checkpoint since level 5. Anyhow if people really want to travel across they would avoid the main border crossing.

Donegal Storm · 17-11-2020 12:55am

I know of a funeral last week where 20 odd people travelled back from the US and went straight to the wake without any quarantine

Though I also have a high suspicion that the schools situation is far worse than what they're letting on, hardly a coincidence that cases dropped like a stone over mid term and now look to have stopped dropping once they're back

NIMAN · 17-11-2020 1:42am

malinheader wrote: »

Exactly same. Work away from home, constantly crossing from north to south quiet a bit. Met one checkpoint since level 5. Anyhow if people really want to travel across they would avoid the main border crossing.

So why are the Guards being blamed?

Do you not think personal responsibility is the only way we will get it under control?

If you have to cross the border to work, and you can't work from home, then that's legit.

If you are crossing daily to get groceries cheaper or booze cheaper in Asda, then you're ripping the piss and making the numbers worse.

But no, it's all the Guards fault for not manning every single border crossing.

Remember, guards can't legally stop anyone from crossing the border, they can only advise.

malinheader · 17-11-2020 3:59am

NIMAN wrote: »

So why are the Guards being blamed?

Do you not think personal responsibility is the only way we will get it under control?

If you have to cross the border to work, and you can't work from home, then that's legit.

If you are crossing daily to get groceries cheaper or booze cheaper in Asda, then you're ripping the piss and making the numbers worse.

But no, it's all the Guards fault for not manning every single border crossing.

Remember, guards can't legally stop anyone from crossing the border, they can only advise.

I'm not blaming the guards for anything thing. It's a pointless exercise in my eyes considering your last paragraph. But no point complaining about normal people ripping the piss when you have a certain crowd in there who should be leading the people but couldn't run a piss up in a brewery.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 17-11-2020 1:16pm

I went to Letterkenny this morning to do a grocery shop. Passed 3 different checkpoints.

fawlty682 · 17-11-2020 8:09pm

Garda management just want a certain number of checkpoints, nor targeted checkpoints. Last Friday at 2.30 p.m. checkpoint at Port Bridge Letterkenny. Today at 11.30 a.m. same checkpoint. Pointless exercise. Big tailbacks of traffic, some being asked coming into town- where are you going sir. Home or to Aldi etc.
Poor use of resources for normal policing.

NIMAN · 17-11-2020 8:14pm

fawlty682 wrote: »

Garda management just want a certain number of checkpoints, nor targeted checkpoints. Last Friday at 2.30 p.m. checkpoint at Port Bridge Letterkenny. Today at 11.30 a.m. same checkpoint. Pointless exercise. Big tailbacks of traffic, some being asked coming into town- where are you going sir. Home or to Aldi etc.
Poor use of resources for normal policing.

Not defending the Guards here, but big tailbacks were actually something they wanted to happen when they had checkpoints on the motorways into Dublin at the start.
Their logic is if people get pissed off sitting for 30min then they won't make the journey the next day if they don't have to, and as a result less people will be on the move.

I don't agree with the logic btw.

madalig12 · 17-11-2020 10:25pm

Yep its like, you wont stay at home we will inconvenience you till you to do tactics. Yes well im trying to lift my daughter from creche so fec off

babybuilder · 17-11-2020 11:35pm

The only people who keep the regulations are those who want to. If you don't want to happy days.

lulu1 · 18-11-2020 12:00am

NIMAN wrote: »

Just seen a social media post from Donegal Gardai saying that from tomorrow they will be redoubling their efforts around checkpoints and trying to limit unessential travel.

You shouldnt need checkpoints people need to have a bit of common sense

lulu1 · 18-11-2020 12:07am

muffler wrote: »

Dr Denis McCauley was on the radio this morning and he mentioned funerals as being a source of high infection rate. As a GP he is obviously aware of situations where people are contracting Covid.

A woman rang into the show and while I didnt get the full story it was along the lines of a recent party with about 200 people in attendance and included a live band :eek:

There was a local funeral here in the last few days and video footage was posted on Facebook and there were loads of people lining the street with a lot of them not social distancing nor wearing masks. To make matters worse one of the mourners went along and shook hands with a lot of those people and could be seen hugging at least one person.

Its been said many times that there are people out there who simple dont give a ****

And one of those party goers is paying the price on a ventilator in letterkenny hospital

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 18-11-2020 12:20am

Seems Hallowe'en may be responsible for the increase in numbers we're seekng this week. Timing would be right.

January is going to be desperate if the numbers aren't way down before mid December, because you just know the vast majority of people will doing what they want over Christmas

NIMAN · 18-11-2020 10:09am

lulu1 wrote: »

You shouldnt need checkpoints people need to have a bit of common sense

You're preaching to the converted.

18-11-2020 9:00pm

49 staff members have tested positive at Letterkenny hospital for covid-19.

I haven't heard any figures for ongoing transmission to patients.

Thats not going to help the numbers for Donegal!

Wishing them all ( and anyone else infected) a speedy recovery.

Moragle · 18-11-2020 10:07pm

Deleted User wrote: »

49 staff members have tested positive at Letterkenny hospital for covid-19.

I haven't heard any figures for ongoing transmission to patients.

Thats not going to help the numbers for Donegal!

Wishing them all ( and anyone else infected) a speedy recovery.

A lot of the agency nurses in Letterkenny also work in altnagelvin

NIMAN · 18-11-2020 10:50pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

49 staff members have tested positive at Letterkenny hospital for covid-19.

I haven't heard any figures for ongoing transmission to patients.

Thats not going to help the numbers for Donegal!

Wishing them all ( and anyone else infected) a speedy recovery.

Over what time period is this?
A week?

Sounds incredibly high.
Any official link to this or is it a rumour?

Media reported 34 yesterday and 38 today.

Heard many such rumours over this crisis that turned out to be untrue or inaccurate.

19-11-2020 1:03am

NIMAN wrote: »

Over what time period is this?
A week?

Sounds incredibly high.
Any official link to this or is it a rumour?

Media reported 34 yesterday and 38 today.

Heard many such rumours over this crisis that turned out to be untrue or inaccurate.

Time period is over the last 10 days or so.

Source is Highland radio

There are 8 (non consultant) doctors, 1 consultant, 19 nurses, 8 health care assistants confirmed- the rest of the confirmed cases are admin, and support staff, etc.

There are a total of 133 staff off duty, those with covid, and close contacts.

The number of doctors and nursing staff infected is a huge concern, both from the risk of transmission, and from a staffing level point of view.

I have no information on how many patients have been infected. Last I heard was a week ago, when they were contact tracing.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 20-11-2020 2:18am

Northern Ireland about to close all their shops, just as ours are due to reopen.

I don't think ours will be reopening, to be honest, whatever about the rest of the country.

malinheader · 20-11-2020 10:03am

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Northern Ireland about to close all their shops, just as ours are due to reopen.

I don't think ours will be reopening, to be honest, whatever about the rest of the country.

Northern Ireland letting them open for a week before they close.
They can't get a handle on this at all, been told there hospitals won't cope and still they let them open.

Just proves that the people in charge are not fit to govern or make decisions. And not much hope for other parts of this Ireland when there is clowns in some parts making stupid decisions.

whatswhat · 20-11-2020 12:15pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Northern Ireland about to close all their shops, just as ours are due to reopen.

I don't think ours will be reopening, to be honest, whatever about the rest of the country.

This is just total lunacy to me. How can the Island in its entirety possibly get a grip on reducing virus numbers with this toing and froing in all directions????
With decisions like this we can kiss good-bye to any improvements in lowering cases soon.:(

malinheader · 20-11-2020 1:13pm

whatswhat wrote: »

This is just total lunacy to me. How can the Island in its entirety possibly get a grip on reducing virus numbers with this toing and froing in all directions????
With decisions like this we can kiss good-bye to any improvements in lowering cases soon.:(

100% agree. How is Donegal expected to see an improvement from level 5 when next door is opening up. Pure lunacy.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 20-11-2020 1:25pm

malinheader wrote: »

100% agree. How is Donegal expected to see an improvement from level 5 when next door is opening up. Pure lunacy.

They're not opening up though. That's the point. They're actually shutting everything down from next Friday. Just when we should be reopening on this side. So you end up with the same problem but in the other direction.

muffler · 20-11-2020 1:57pm

I wonder if Mrs Foster is looking to have her hair done?

malinheader · 20-11-2020 4:29pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

They're not opening up though. That's the point. They're actually shutting everything down from next Friday. Just when we should be reopening on this side. So you end up with the same problem but in the other direction.

They are opening up hair salons, cafes etc having been told that their hospitals won't be able to cope in 2 weeks time.

We will have to see next Friday if we open up, I'm hoping if our medical officer gives them the same kind of report they won't be stupid enough to even think about it.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 20-11-2020 5:29pm

malinheader wrote: »

They are opening up hair salons, cafes etc having been told that their hospitals won't be able to cope in 2 weeks time.

We will have to see next Friday if we open up, I'm hoping if our medical officer gives them the same kind of report they won't be stupid enough to even think about it.

Yes, the places that were closed are allowed open for a week and then everything is shutting down on the 27th, including retail, which has been open through the entirety of our second lockdown.

Given the situation here and at Letterkenny hospital I can't see Donegal reopening at the start of December, regardless of what happens elsewhere in the Republic. But Northern Ireland chosing to do the exact opposite of what we're doing, timeline wise, doesn't help our cause at all.

muffler · 23-11-2020 7:42pm

13 confirmed cases announced today which is a welcome development and we seem to be going in the right direction again. Its our third lowest figure in the last 2 months.

Its also a welcome development to watch the RTE news and not have Donegal mentioned among the list of counties with the highest numbers.

Nollog · 24-11-2020 7:33pm

41 today

slimboyfat · 24-11-2020 8:11pm

Would love to know where all these cases are coming from

ednwireland · 24-11-2020 8:25pm

slimboyfat wrote: »

Would love to know where all these cases are coming from

same as

Cabletiesfix · 24-11-2020 10:23pm

slimboyfat wrote: »

Would love to know where all these cases are coming from

From Halfway between Buncrana and Bridgend

babybuilder · 24-11-2020 11:29pm

Cabletiesfix wrote: »

From Halfway between Buncrana and Bridgend

Big blowout I hear

StillThinking · 25-11-2020 10:27am

Cabletiesfix wrote:

From Halfway between Buncrana and Bridgend

Yeah what was the story there and who thought that was a good idea?? I heard 600 people but sure 50 were likely added for every town it passed through

ednwireland · 25-11-2020 10:29am

at least the lights are on in donegal town !

https://www.donegallive.ie/video/multimedia/591326/watch-donegal-town-christmas-lights-are-switched-on.html

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