Coronavirus

muffler

A mate sent me the list below which shows the number of new daily cases over the last couple of months. Interesting to see how the numbers have risen steadily. I'll update this daily.

28th August - 0, 29th August - 14, 30th August - 0, 31st August - 0.

1st September - 3, 2nd September - 0, 3rd September - 0, 4th September - 0, 5th September - 5.

6th September - 2, 7th September - 0, 8th September - 3, 9th September - 4, 10th September - 1.

11th September - 5, 12th September - 5, 13th September - 13, 14th September - 12, 15th September - 2.

16th September - 20, 17th September - 16, 18th September - 13, 19th September - 19, 20th September - 19.

21st September - 21, 22nd September - 18, 23rd September - 30, 24th September - 41, 25th September - 22.

26th September - 37, 27th September - 23, 28th September - 22, 29th September - 23, 30th September - 31.

1st October - 28, 2nd October - 36, 3rd October - 58, 4th October - 31, 5th October - 34.

6th October - 51, 7th October - 60, 8th October - 53, 9th October - 33, 10th October - 34.

11th October - 56, 12th October - 38, 13th October - 23, 14th October - 29, 15th October - 50.

16th October - 32, 17th October - 43, 18th October - 14, 19th October - 39, 20th October - 21.

21st October - 48, 22nd October - 56, 23rd October - 20, 24th October - 58, 25th October - 53,

26th October - 51, 27th October - 7, 28th October - 20, 29th October - 56, 30th October - 41, 31st October - 25.

1st November - 30, 2nd November - 21, 3rd November - 15, 4th November - 16, 5th November - 75.

6th November - 18, 7th November - 41. 8th November - 59. 9th November - 20. 10th November - 21.

11th November - 48, 12th November - 27, 13th November - 24, 14th November - 27, 15th November - 34.

16th November - 11, 17th November - 34, 18th November - 38, 19th November - 26, 20th November - 21.

21st November - 22, 22nd November - 21, 23rd November - 13, 24th November - 41, 25th November - 16.

26th November - 20, 27th November - 20, 28th November - 26, 29th November - 41, 30th November - 17.

1st December - 16, 2nd December - 38, 3rd December - 26, 4th December - 19, 5th December - 37.

6th December - 32, 7th December - 27, 8th December - 22, 9th December - 26, 10th December - 27.

11th December - 19, 12th December - 6, 13th December - 46, 14th December - 24, 15th December - 34.

16th December - 53, 17th December - 32, 18th December - 14, 19th December - 44, 20th December - 52.

21st December - 44, 22nd December - 50, 23rd December - 68, 24th December - 38, 25th December - 77.

26th December 123, 27th December - 33, 28th December - 23, 29th December - 85, 30th December - 150,

31st December - 51, 1st January - 44, 2nd January - 339, 3rd January - 194, 4th January - 52.

5th January - 238, 6th January - 231, 7th January - 187, 8th January - 310, 9th January - 149.

10th January - 196, 11th January - 157, 12th January - 81, 13th January - 136, 14th January - 154

15th January - 128, 16th January - 83, 17th January - 112, 18th January - 34, 19th January - 90.

20th January - 84, 21st January - 135, 22nd January - 32, 23rd January - 72, 24th January - 33.

25th January - 18, 26th January - 38, 27th January - 48, 28th January - 63, 29th January - 40.

30th January - 59, 31st January - 31, 1st February - 27, 2nd February - 15, 3rd February - 27.

4th February - 36, 5th February - 45, 6th February - 22, 7th February - 47, 8th February - 9.

09th February - 20, 10th February - 22, 11th February - 17, 12th February - 9, 13th February - 27.

14th February - 9, 15th February - 29, 16th February - >5, 17th February - 12, 18th February - 29.

19th February - 26, 20th February - 7, 21st February - 26, 22nd February - 31, 23rd February - 15.

24th February - 21, 25th February - 23, 26th February - 48, 27th February - 33, 28th February - 5.

1st March - 31, 2nd March - <5, 3rd March - 25, 4th March - <5, 5th March - 19.

06 March - 0
07 March - 13
08 March - 26
09 March - 0
10 March - 23
11 March - 35
12 March - 19
13 March - 39
14 March - 11
15 March - 20
16 March - 19
17 March - 34
18 March - 8
19 March - 16
20 March - 20
21 March - 67
22 March - 9
23 March - 27
24 March - 68
25 March - 57
26 March - 26
27 March - 38
28 March - 45
29 March - 17
30 March - 13
31 March - 31
01 April - 14
02 April - 25
03 April - 16
04 April - 13
05 April - 16
06 April - 17
07 April - 15
08 April - 17
09 April - 30
10 April - 17
11 April - 15
12 April - 16
13 April - 39
14 April - 34
15 April - 25
16 April - 33
17 April - 28
18 April - 28
19 April - 11
20 April - 18
21 April - 31
22 April - 84
23 April - 21
24 April - 23
25 April - 22
26 April - 62
27 April - 39
28 April - 33
29 April - 36
30 April - 29
01 May - 27
02 May - 22
03 May - 34
04 May - 25
05 May - 32
06 May - 26
07 May - 19
08 May - 30
09 May - 24
10 May - 39
11 May - 27
12 May - 12
13 May - 49

water-man

@ Muffler - Is that for Donegal only?

I ask as I read on RTE news last week that for the Finn Valley area there were 140 cases per 100,000 people. As the FV has an approx population of 25,000 this would tell me there were, based on those numbers & dates, 35 confirmed cases of Covid in the FV region.

The numbers above would indicate a steady increase since then.

Although it is still interesting to note that last week in Ireland there were 88,000 tests and I read that 98% of results are negative. However I can't stress enough that people still need to be careful and only meet people if they really must.

muffler

water-man wrote: »

@ Muffler - Is that for Donegal only?

Yes, figures for Donegal as issued by the Dept. Health

Donegal Storm

Is scary how quick we can normalise the increasing figures, when I heard 23 cases yesterday I thought 'hmm, not too bad' but looking at those figures yesterday was the 4th highest all month and on a Sunday.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Went for a drive yesterday and everywhere was pretty quiet, which seemed like a good thing, but then I was thinking we haven't been asked to stay at home this time. Nobody out and about could just mean people are still in each other's houses which is the main thing we're being asked to cut out. We'll just have to wait and see the numbers over the next few weeks.

ednwireland

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Went for a drive yesterday and everywhere was pretty quiet, which seemed like a good thing, but then I was thinking we haven't been asked to stay at home this time. Nobody out and about could just mean people are still in each other's houses which is the main thing we're being asked to cut out. We'll just have to wait and see the numbers over the next few weeks.

apparently st johns point was full of cars yesterday about a a third DL registrations

plenty of british and northern reg cars passing me on the bike yesterday as well

malinheader

Donegal has now the highest incident rate in the country per population followed by Dublin.
I fear this is only the start of it in many places.
Level 3 or even 4 was to late in happening imo.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

NIMAN

I'm sure those figures will be analyzed to death.

They say it takes a fortnight to see cases appear in figures? What happened a fortnight before the cases started increasing?

Education re-opening?

circadian

I was in Derry at the weekend (with a quick stop in Omagh on the way back on Sunday). Arrived home n Derry on Friday night between 11 and midnight. Centre was busy and the pubs I drove past looked pretty busy too, as if there was no pandemic.

Taxis don't seem to have screens in the car and I didn't spot any drivers with facemasks. Went for a quick spin during Saturday and everywhere looked pretty busy too.

Omagh on Sunday was very busy, around 1 - 2pm. Much busier than I've seen it at other times. Doesn't bode well and suggests the general feeling in the area is "ah sure **** it".

NIMAN

circadian wrote: »

I was in Derry at the weekend (with a quick stop in Omagh on the way back on Sunday). Arrived home n Derry on Friday night between 11 and midnight. Centre was busy and the pubs I drove past looked pretty busy too, as if there was no pandemic.

Taxis don't seem to have screens in the car and I didn't spot any drivers with facemasks. Went for a quick spin during Saturday and everywhere looked pretty busy too.

Omagh on Sunday was very busy, around 1 - 2pm. Much busier than I've seen it at other times. Doesn't bode well and suggests the general feeling in the area is "ah sure **** it".

Although I would agree that too many people in Derry aren't taking the mask thing seriously, I have seen plenty of taxis with the perspex screens dividing driver from customer. I'm sure not all taxis have them fitted though.

I have been in too many smaller shops were only me and the person serving were the only ones masked up. Disappointing to see. As for squirting hands on way in, that too seems to be too much of an effort for many.

If people can't do the simple things, what hope is there?

babybuilder

circadian wrote: »

I was in Derry at the weekend (with a quick stop in Omagh on the way back on Sunday). Arrived home n Derry on Friday night between 11 and midnight. Centre was busy and the pubs I drove past looked pretty busy too, as if there was no pandemic.

Taxis don't seem to have screens in the car and I didn't spot any drivers with facemasks. Went for a quick spin during Saturday and everywhere looked pretty busy too.

Omagh on Sunday was very busy, around 1 - 2pm. Much busier than I've seen it at other times. Doesn't bode well and suggests the general feeling in the area is "ah sure **** it".

The largest numbers recorded in the North and yet they open the wet pubs last week. I'm convinced that the authorities, North and South, are going for a "soft" herd immunity strategy. Keeping it manageable with the younger demographic the main driver. I can only imagine it will take a significant ten-fold increase to even move up a level. The current scenario does add up🙄. If it enters the hospitals or care homes they may change tactics.

babybuilder

babybuilder wrote: »

I'm convinced that the authorities, North and South, are going for a "soft" herd immunity strategy. Keeping it manageable with the younger demographic the main driver.

I read in one of the papers recently where the W.H.O. recommended that Ireland should manage a "controlled spread" among the younger generation.

Coincidentally, this was shortly after schools and colleges opened, and the hospitality industry was having a bumper end of season.

1: If you prevent youth from going out socialising for 6 months, then lift the lid - they're going to go have fun.

2: The hospitality industry is staffed mainly by young people.

3: Just in case that doesn't achieve "controlled spread" - it might be a good idea to introduce tax breaks for "staycations" - because Donegal didn't have any cases for ages - yet, all of a sudden, people are being irresponsible - and, yes, some people are - but the fact remains the the virus didn't suddenly manifest itself in so many different areas without a common denominator.

Donegal is a big County - our young people aren't all mixing together at parties- so where is the other link?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Donegal is a big County - our young people aren't all mixing together at parties- so where is the other link?

It's not just young people spreading it though, and nobody has said it is.
The focus has been on young people because they are accounting for the majority of new cases AND are mainly asymptomatic.
That's a problem because they are then potentially spreading it to older people who will have symptoms, need hospitalization, and potentially ICU.

If you watched the briefing today you'd have seen the example of one couple in the West of Ireland being responsible for infecting nearly 30 people over the space of a weekend. They came back from a holiday, went to a small party in a friends house, spent the night at another friends house, and then one of them met up with 2 different groups of friends for dinner/drinks. Nearly everyone they spent time with were infected, the people sitting at the table next to them were infected, as were several of the restaurant staff who served them.

You can have zero cases in your county for weeks. All it takes is one infected person to bring it back in and have it spread around the county in a matter of days.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

It's not just young people spreading it though, and nobody has said it is.
The focus has been on young people because they are accounting for the majority of new cases AND are mainly asymptomatic.
That's a problem because they are then potentially spreading it to older people who will have symptoms, need hospitalization, and potentially ICU.

The majority, as you have said, are young people.

Given that not all of the people - young, or otherwise - have any connection to one another, why is Covid-19 spreading so quickly in Donegal?

There's a common denominator somewhere.
It's not just one couple that brought it back. It's spread over too wide an area for that to be the case.

If we want to learn lessons for other Counties, it would be helpful if we could learn how on earth it spread to so many areas, so quickly.

That may be through work, or college, or social settings, or visitors, or A.N. Other.

But, just saying we know it spreads through social settings isn't going to stop it getting into a County in the 1st place. Imo, we need to be a bit more targeted than that.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The majority, as you have said, are young people.

Given that not all of the people - young, or otherwise - have any connection to one another, why is Covid-19 spreading so quickly in Donegal?

There's a common denominator somewhere.
It's not just one couple that brought it back. It's spread over too wide an area for that to be the case.

If we want to learn lessons for other Counties, it would be helpful if we could learn how on earth it spread to so many areas, so quickly.

That may be through work, or college, or social settings, or visitors, or A.N. Other.

But, just saying we know it spreads through social settings isn't going to stop it getting into a County in the 1st place. Imo, we need to be a bit more targeted than that.

You've been told several times how it's spreading. Several doctors from Donegal have told you specifically how it's spreading here. Public health organisations are investigating the connections to piece together how it's spreading, and the experts at the press briefings are literally making diagrams to show you how it's spreading. And yet you keep asking how it's spreading?

You can't stop it getting into a county unless you literally build a wall around it and let nobody in or out for months. It's impossible and irrelevant.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

You've been told several times

Well, fortunately for me, I'm not six years old to be "told" anything...

There's this innocuous little phrase - "Community spread".

It certainly allows for asymptomatic cases unknowingly passing the virus on.

What it should NOT do, is make it acceptable that, 6 months after the onset of the virus, tracing is still only being done for the two days prior to the onset of symptoms.

And yet, only now does that seem to be recognised as a problem...


Here's reality.

Someone dropped the ball. I don't know whether that was lack of funding, or just incompetence.

So, far from being "told" half the story, I'll use my common sense, and continue to ask questions, thanks all the same.

Nobotty

Lack of resources

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Deleted User wrote: »

Well, fortunately for me, I'm not six years old to be "told" anything...

There's this innocuous little phrase - "Community spread".

It certainly allows for asymptomatic cases unknowingly passing the virus on.

What it should NOT do, is make it acceptable that, 6 months after the onset of the virus, tracing is still only being done for the two days prior to the onset of symptoms.

And yet, only now does that seem to be recognised as a problem...


Here's reality.

Someone dropped the ball. I don't know whether that was lack of funding, or just incompetence.

So, far from being "told" half the story, I'll use my common sense, and continue to ask questions, thanks all the same.

You sound, at best, like you have difficulty understanding some very basic information, at worst like a conspiracy theorist.

Tracing is done for the two days prior to try to try to get ahead of potential spread and get people tested before they have a chance to spread it more. Going back further than that is somewhat irrelevant in terms of getting things under control.

And there is more in depth investigating being done by various public health people, but they can only do so much, and only so much is actually useful information. Being able to say Mr. Smith from Dublin was on his holidays in Letterkenny in July and was the one to bring it back into the county (even though we can't actually say it was ever gone) serves no real purpose. What matters is why it's spreading now, and getting that under control. And that is what everyone who is dealing with this in real time has been saying for the past few weeks.

ednwireland

drove to sligo for a course yesterday not a sign of guards, roads were fairly empty compared to last week though.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

You sound, at best, like you have difficulty understanding some very basic information, at worst like a conspiracy theorist.

Tracing is done for the two days prior to try to try to get ahead of potential spread and get people tested before they have a chance to spread it more. Going back further than that is somewhat irrelevant in terms of getting things under control.

And there is more in depth investigating being done by various public health people, but they can only do so much, and only so much is actually useful information. Being able to say Mr. Smith from Dublin was on his holidays in Letterkenny in July and was the one to bring it back into the county (even though we can't actually say it was ever gone) serves no real purpose. What matters is why it's spreading now, and getting that under control.

Well, thanks for your enlightened viewpoint.

And, yet, we know that the virus can be transmissible for more than two days prior to the onset of symptoms - which is precisely why more in depth investigation is currently being carried out.

The question is, given the amount of knowledge available internationally about disease transmission, why is it only now - 7 months into this pandemic - that these investigations are taking place?

Personally, I don't care whether Mr Smith from Dublin (or wherever) spread the virus in a given area. I want to know why it's spreading rapidly in so many areas, where there is no obvious link between the outbreaks.

Given the tax breaks for staycations, far from being a conspiracy theory, there are valid, logical reasons for asking questions that just may save lives in other Counties.

Nobotty

The department local information is ridiculously bad
Its only updated every 2 weeks unless I'm missing something
Why isn't there a rolling 7 day figure

This is 10 days old already

Cabletiesfix

It's updated now. Derry spilling over into Inishowen

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Lifford/Stranorlar is at 600 per 100,000. Still the highest in the country.

I see they're supposedly bringing in more restrictions for Derry and Strabane. Pubs/restaurants to take out or outside dining, no social gatherings etc..
Shame that they've waited more than a week since we did it to act. Bit like the initial lockdown too.

babybuilder

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

You sound, at best, like you have difficulty understanding some very basic information, at worst like a conspiracy theorist.

Tracing is done for the two days prior to try to try to get ahead of potential spread and get people tested before they have a chance to spread it more. Going back further than that is somewhat irrelevant in terms of getting things under control.

And there is more in depth investigating being done by various public health people, but they can only do so much, and only so much is actually useful information. Being able to say Mr. Smith from Dublin was on his holidays in Letterkenny in July and was the one to bring it back into the county (even though we can't actually say it was ever gone) serves no real purpose. What matters is why it's spreading now, and getting that under control. And that is what everyone who is dealing with this in real time has been saying for the past few weeks.

It seems the worst kind of insult - the conspiracy one. There wasn't a hint of what he said as being a conspiracy suggestion. No need to be insulting.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

babybuilder wrote: »

It seems the worst kind of insult - the conspiracy one. There wasn't a hint of what he said as being a conspiracy suggestion. No need to be insulting.

I'm sorry but refusing to listen to what the experts are saying, acting like we're being lied to, literally saying they think the government introduced tax breaks for holidays to ensure a controlled spread, specifically in Donegal apparently.... I don't know what else you'd call it.

EDIT: But anyway, off topic etc. etc. I won't take the bait anymore.

muffler

Right folks, we can leave it at that.

As I posted earlier there is a dedicated Coronavirus Forum where all general thoughts, views, opinions, theories etc can be aired.

From here on I'd like to think that we will have more factual posts which relate to Donegal

muffler

Cases have been confirmed in Mulrines in Ballybofey. I know of 2 workers that have tested positive but I dont know how many there is in total.

Rumour has it that there are cases in Arivo (Donegal Creameries) in the Cross, Killygordon. Im not sure how factual that is but there is a smaller and separate plant there owned by Arivo and again I know of 2 workers there who have tested positive.

A man who is married to a relation of mine and works in O'Neills in Strabane also has Covid. He's on record as saying "half the factory has it". May be a figure of speech but there's certainly a good few cases there.

circadian

O'Neils closed half the factory about a week ago so I guess he's not far off on the estimation if that's the case.

I see the Derry and Strabane council raised concerns with the NI Executive about a funfair that went ahead in September, which, given the time line seems like there's several events in the area leading to this outbreak.

malinheader

A young lad in my area was tested positive yesterday.
Some of the comments I am hearing today are totally out of order and disgusting to say the least.
The quicker some people realise that alot of the time this virus is picked up in the simplest way and sometimes not by partying then people might be a bit more quicker to tell people that someone in their family has it or is awaiting a test.
In some cases people are hiding the facts in fear of being abused.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

malinheader wrote: »

The quicker some people realise that alot of the time this virus is picked up in the simplest way and sometimes not by partying then people might be a bit more quicker to tell people that someone in their family has it or is awaiting a test.

I think they need to stop using the phrase "house party" when talking about how it's spreading. I think most people hear that phrase and picture the absolute worst. Obviously there are some cases that are actual house parties, like the recent one in Sligo, but a lot of the times they're talking about a small group of people having a few drinks together.
These gatherings are still responsible for spreading it, but what's happening is a) people having a small gathering for a birthday or communion, think they're fine and not at risk of spreading/catching it, and b) when someone does get it from one of these gatherings, the wider public think they were at a rave with 200 people, or something equally reckless, which leads to abuse and, as you say, people being reluctant to be open and honest about having it or being tested.